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<[BuD]> went back to open and suddenly the lines on teh blueprint were smooth
<[BuD]> before they were chunky, bits missing now its all good :)
<AceOvArtx> http://viva-graphics.com
<AceOvArtx> sweet site
<bxx> *wonders if I can ask a stupid question
<AceOvArtx> no stupid questions in here please
<bxx> lol....
<bxx> *decides to shut up*
<AceOvArtx> dude, ask whatever if its 3d related
<bxx> ok....I just wanted to ask something about lightwave
<bxx> that's why I said it was a stupid question....cus I know this is 3dmax
<AceOvArtx> ask away, dunno if theres ane LWrs in atm though
<bxx> but there is noone at that chatplace....and I thought people must know
<bxx> I just wanted a review....ok, I told you this was a stupid question
<AceOvArtx> oh though it says 3dsmax lots of ppl use all sorts of apps in here
<AceOvArtx> a review ?
<bxx> I was thinking of getting these tutorial DVDs by todd grimes....
<AceOvArtx> ahh
<bxx> its 5 dvds....but they are SO expensive....
<AceOvArtx> I know nuthing about that Im afraid
<bxx> just wanted to ask people for what they thought....
<AceOvArtx> find a "DocHoliday" when he is around, if anyone would know he would
<bxx> no, like if you found a tutorial that you really liked, would you spend about 70$ on EACH....there are 5, I only want 3, but still....its so expensive
<bxx> like, would you pay that much for ONE dvd tutorial - in 3dmax
<bxx> if you knew it was good....
<bxx> I'm from NZ, and that's nearly 100$ for one DVD....most movies are like 40 or something....
<bxx> and most of the tutorials I've seen like about half the price, so these ones are really expensive....
<bxx> that's right....
<ufo8mycat> it varies on how indepth the tutorials are
<AceOvArtx> if you think youll get something from at least 3 of the 5 then email em and see if they would do you a special rate
<AceOvArtx> no harm in asking
<bxx> like for me, I need a tutorial which starts with modeling, does texturing, and rigging and animating
<ufo8mycat> i need a tutorial that teaches me to pickup and keep women...
<bxx> these do EVERYTHING....for ONE model....so its great cus it teaches you all the things with one thing
<ufo8mycat> :P
<bxx> I can buy 3 if I want
<_ut> www.gkmotu.com/temp/untitled.mp3 just did this for some small realtime production....
<bxx> you can buy one dvd if you want....but I want 3....still, its a lotta money
<bxx> and the tutorials are good cus I've done the first two, my friend gave them to me....so I know they are good....but still....do people buy thigns that are
<turkgama> just pirate the gnomon videos and pay them back when you're a succesful artist working for a successful studio
<bxx> this expensive....
<turkgama> is what I say
<bxx> lol....
<ufo8mycat> i wonder how long turk will last in this channel
<turkgama> that was a joke
<bxx> aren't those for maya
<turkgama> you can generalize the concepts
<Strikee> sleep with the author
<Strikee> erhm this was a joke, too
<bxx> that's the thing....there are lots of free tutorials that I have....but I want something which teaches me animating and rigging and weight maps and morhps on one model....
<bxx> I'm really new so I can't really combine different things from different tutorials - I just get really confused
<ufo8mycat> i got allan mckay's dvd set for free.. cause i've known him for years and known his girlfriend before they were together
<turkgama> <Strikee> mmmm Feng Zhu
<bxx> I would sleep with him, he's quite cute...
<ufo8mycat> _ut: sounds good
<Strikee> hehehe
<_ut> thx :) only 10 miutes work so far...
<ufo8mycat> good ambience that builds up :]
<_ut> thats the plan yes :)
<ufo8mycat> success :D
<_ut> \o/
<_ut> ;)
<bxx> so I will just shut up now
<ufo8mycat> you win the prize!
<_ut> :O
<_ut> :x
<ufo8mycat> i'n sitting in a hotel in melbourne on some dudes wireless... :P
<_ut> heh
<ufo8mycat> free net
<_ut> same here
<bxx> so, what do people think, I should get the DVDs....
<Strikee> yes
<Strikee> I think so
<Strikee> x-mas is soon
<bxx> yeah....but its like 100$ for a DVD
<Strikee> 300$ dollar then
<bxx> I know its really good stuff....but I keep thinking its just too expensive....
<bxx> and its for lightwave 7.5
<bxx> I've got 8, so its old
<AceOvArtx> well ask yourself if you will learn from it
<bxx> I know I will....
<AceOvArtx> if so then buy, buy, BUY !
<turkgama> why not a book?
<bxx> I can't learn from books....video is a lot better
<turkgama> maybe one you can find at a library
<AceOvArtx> are there no other tuts online that give the same info ?
<AceOvArtx> what are they actually for ?
<bxx> I'm from NZ and there' aren't a lotta books that are on 3d in library
<bxx> yeah, there are lots of free tutorials, but nothing that goes through everything with one model....its like there are modeling tutorials, rigging tutorials, walk cycles, weight maps, lip syncing....but its for different models, with different levels of skill and all
<AceOvArtx> ok
<turkgama> sooner or later you're going to have to start discovering things for yourself, a tutorial can only empower you to start doing that, really
<bxx> yeah....I want something to teach me things properly
<turkgama> but then again, there are probably methods you wouldn't come up with on your own
<turkgama> but hey, one problem I have when I want to learn something new is I try to find al the best sources to learn it just right and I never get past figuring out where I should begin learning, I never start actually doing anything :D
<bxx> but do you guys spend that much on one dvd tutorial, if you know its really good....
<turkgama> ariel will give words of wisdom!
<Arielana> suuuure
<AceOvArtx> there is no better way to learn something than to actually DO a project from start to finish. Tutorials basically show you a workflow method, but there are many ways to achieve the same goal
<AceOvArtx> so many people have half finished projects on thier drives
<Awayvile> heh no ****
<AceOvArtx> they get to bit thats boring and stop
<ufo8mycat> i got so many unstart projects on my drives
<turkgama> take changes! make mistakes! get messy!
<AceOvArtx> its the only way
<AceOvArtx> I been doing this **** for many years and every day I push points....boring as a mofo but no other way
<ufo8mycat> i push around users who do stupid stuff on my networks
<Spooky60> creative nickname :)
<ufo8mycat> :]
<ufo8mycat> <-- pARODY incognito :P
<Spooky60> ahh :>
<ufo8mycat> i'm in melbourne for a couple days installing a new server
<ufo8mycat> tomorrow night i fly home
<_ut> www.gkmotu.com/temp/intro.mp3 new version ..nmow with strings :)
<ufo8mycat> _ut: sounds good.. sounds very gothic like.. something cradle of filth would have made :P
<ufo8mycat> you just need it to burst into some fast heavy metal at the end ;P
<_ut> o.O
<_ut> i dont think soo! hehe
<_ut> evil aliens...
<_ut> eath
<_ut> death
<_ut> alot of slime
<_ut> and no heavy metal :x
<_ut> but thank you
<ufo8mycat> haha
<_ut> :)
<ufo8mycat> find the first two tracks from dimmu borgir - puritanical euphoric mysanthropia
<ufo8mycat> and you'll understand what i mean :P
<Anvile> why don't they use normal words
<ufo8mycat> cause they're norwegian
<Anvile> ah
<Arielana> Anvileeeeee
<Anvile> ariiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
<Arielana> hrmpf
<Arielana> dont know u
<Bluplet> hmmm free drinkies tomorrow night
<NOTpARODY> Bluplet: i know :~( and i'll be in the air
<Bluplet> i'll drink your share before allan does
<Bluplet> that wino
<Arielana> heh
<NOTpARODY> plane lands around 9:30.. so will try and show up
<NOTpARODY> allan is a boozer for sure :]
<Bluplet> ya
<Arielana> okie i gotta go to work
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