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<NKD> Suicide bombers dont value their own lives by definition, so theres no amount of intimidation that will deter them
<NKD> BUT
<Genia4> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f5/Tavor14.jpg/150px-Tavor14.jpg <---cool gun
<NKD> lets say a bomber kills 10 israelis
<NKD> kill 20 palestinians at random
<NKD> starting with the bombers family
<jorge1> suicide bombers give their life, not that they don't care about it
<Genia4> NKD: we don't do that
<Genia4> because then everyone will hate us
<Yuhjn> then you are no better than the bomber
<james-_> The escalation of killing has been tried, it does indeed lead to escalation.
<NKD> I know... no one would... its too logical and uncaringt
<Genia4> since media will usually mention us killing 20 of them
<GraviSrvr> Genia4: pff... just imprison them
<Genia4> and neglect to mention them killing 10 of us
<GraviSrvr> (the suicide bomber family)
<xab-of-da> this channel is funny, so many diff. topics
<xab-of-da> last night it was religion
<Yuhjn> Genia: well lots of people sympathise with them more than you guys.... people like the underdog
<xab-of-da> now it's suiciders are wth you're talking about
<james-_> religion? vi vs. emacs?
<binrapt> Philosophy, too
<GraviSrvr> xab-of-da: and today it's stfu xab-of-da :)
<roopjm> james-_: amen
<FRAnkk> kill al those crazy bastards who murder inocent people
<xab-of-da> :(
<berty> james-_ : pico
<NKD> if _m_ wasnt afk or whateve rhe'd ban us all for not talking about c++ syntax
<NKD> :p
<xab-of-da> bad-day
<binrapt> vi vs. vim
<xab-of-da> i'll come back tomorrow
<binrapt> vim > vi, by the way
<NKD> edit.com > *
<GraviSrvr> vim is nice
<roopjm> echo >>
<mauke> http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html
<GraviSrvr> but kedit.com is best! \o/
<roopjm> echo rules you all!
<GraviSrvr> roopjm: i bomb your house
<NKD> LOL ed
<kawfee> Hello
<roopjm> GraviSrvr: yeah ok
<GraviSrvr> but seriously if each country was SERIOUS about stoping suicide bombers (or at least deture them) they would arrest their families that encouraged it
<GraviSrvr> basically when they have those big "hooray he blew himself up" parties, arrest all those people
<GraviSrvr> for both sides
<Yuhjn> arrest them? for what?
<Stinger> yeah I cant see that helping
<Soronel> that sounds like a great way to encourage more bombings
<Yuhjn> i notice you didnt mention prosecute them, you probably dont care what happens later, just arrest them and them maybe just shoo them
<binrapt> Sippenhaft
<Yuhjn> Soronel: yup, sure does
<Genia4> how do you quit ed btw?
<NKD> Well to be frank the only way to "discourage" it is to let them have their little land
<Genia4> I once opened it
<NKD> and move
<binrapt> ^C?
<Yuhjn> Genia: reboot
<Genia4> had to reboot box
<roopjm> my MountainDewamyid is 13 high
<GraviSrvr> Genia4: ctlr+c
<Genia4> ctrl-c and ctrl-d don't kil it
<kawfee> mauke: what's so fab about ed?
<binrapt> Hah
<NKD> ll
<NKD> open a new terminal
<Yuhjn> kawfee: nothing, it's a joke
<Genia4> Yuhjn: serious?
<NKD> and kill it
<Yuhjn> Genia: no :)
<kawfee> Yuhjn: so it isn't an editor?
<GraviSrvr> everyone who praises them for blowing themselves up encourage more people to do so
<Genia4> so how do you quit ed?
<Genia4> I've tried everyone
<Yuhjn> kawfee: it is
<Genia4> won't go away
<kawfee> Yuhjn: then what is so funny
<Yuhjn> kawfee: it's just not really usable.. its very very very old
<NKD> You open a new terminal
<kawfee> Ed is the editor that wont quit.
<NKD> log in
<NKD> su up
<mauke> ^D works here
<Yuhjn> kawfee: try using it and you'll find the humor, maybe :)
<NKD> kill its process
<NKD> :)
<GraviSrvr> also... praising someone who blew themselves up is like "im glad he killed those other people" which just isnt right in my book
<GraviSrvr> Genia4: ctrl+z
<Genia4> Calculating dependencies ...done!
<Genia4> [ebuild N ] sys-apps/ed-0.2-r6 181 kB
<Genia4> hah!
<kawfee> Soronel: hi
<GraviSrvr> moowoo
<Soronel> I ought to use my wired nics to copy stream to my laptop
<GraviSrvr> now it's time for a shower... showa' powa'!
<roopjm> turtle power!
<Genia4> bbs
<Soronel> bbiab
<khaladan> what's the (greek?) character that looks like a lowercase curvy y?
<binrapt> Uh gamma?
<jorge1> ctrl+C
<jorge1> wrong window
<Genia4> back
<binrapt> khaladan: http://www.keyway.ca/gif/greek2.gif
<binrapt> People should use the omega character instead of OMG
<roopjm> hah.. yes
<NKD> That'd be amusing
<roopjm> which ascii code is that again
<binrapt> Uh ASCII does not have any Greek letters in it
<james-_> There's no ASCII code for omega, it's not part of ASCII.
<Genia4> james-_: I still haven't solved that crappy Fm Fn problem
<NKD> ?
<Genia4> I'm gonna fail so bad :(
<Genia4> I'm having trouble with first homework
<roopjm> Genia4: Fm Fn?
<binrapt> Hmm mIRC just sends ??? for Unicode stuff, eh?
<james-_> Genia4: OK... suppose p|Fm, p|Fn, m<n... then note that p divides one side of your identity, so it divides both sides... then note that it divides the product, as Fm was one term of the product... so p|2...
<Genia4> Fx = 2^(2^x) + 1
<Yuhjn> try #math
<Madsy_> binrapt: IRC sends 8-bit characters. Unicode is not supported by the RFC
<Genia4> Yuhjn: we started that discussion earlier
<Yuhjn> those guys in math know their ****
<binrapt> Madsy_: What exactly is the technical issue, Unicode is just bytes after all, too, is it not
<binrapt> Hmm what does p|Fm mean anyway, I know | in Math only like |x|, absolute value
<Madsy_> binrapt: It is of the type wchar_t, which is two bytes long.
<james-_> Yuhjn: I just gave him his answer anyway, offtopic or not.
<mauke> Madsy_: bull****
<Madsy_> mauke: Care to elaborate?
<mauke> wchar_t has nothing to do with unicode
<NKD> madsy: It comes from a male bovine, and it stinks
<mauke> unicode doesn't fit in two bytes
<NKD> :P
<james-_> binrapt: a|b <=> a divides b <=> a is a factor of b, b=na for some integral n.
<^Bloo> unicode chars have varying length depending on the char and encoding
<Genia4> james-_: I think I got it
<mauke> the UTF-8 encoding is compatible with ASCII
<binrapt> Sheesh, too high for me
<binrapt> Err so what is the technical problem of sending Unicode to a normal RFC compliant IRC server?
<binrapt> Does Unicode contain \n?
<Madsy_> It's not a part of the standard. That's why.
<mauke> none, except IRC doesn't have any way to specify the encoding used
<james-_> binrapt: UTF-8 would be a reasonable encoding of Unicode to use for IRC.
<mauke> so other clients might show garbage
<Genia4> james-_: how would you specify encoding though?
<james-_> Genia4: AFAIK, IRC doesn't have a way to do so.
<Genia4> most clients do support some form of showing foreign stuff...
<binrapt> Ah, I get it.
<Genia4> but still the user would probably have to specify the speculated charset of the text
<binrapt> And if I interpreted all lines using Unicode your normal English ASCII stuff would be broken, too, eh
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