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<lck> binrapt, where are you from?
<OlaRune> here are the swedish dialects, i'm mostly like "torhamn" but not really
<OlaRune> http://swedia.ling.umu.se/snabbmeny.html
<binrapt> lck: Germany
<binrapt> Heh, there are many dialects in German, too
<OlaRune> that's not alla
<OlaRune> that's just the strange ones
<OlaRune> all*
<binrapt> I speak Hochdeutsch but I can imitate others, of course
<lck> i like germanyish
<binrapt> Hochdeutsch is like the uhm pure, official German :P
<lck> it's porn lang number one
<OlaRune> can anyone hear wich R i have?
<binrapt> Swedish? Rolled
<OlaRune> http://swedia.ling.umu.se/snabbmeny.html
<OlaRune> torhamn



<OlaRune> dialects you know
<OlaRune> ;)
<binrapt> Yeah, rolled
<binrapt> I listened to the MP3
<OlaRune> this one is almost exactly mine
<OlaRune> http://swedia.ling.umu.se/Gotaland/Blekinge/Torhamn/ym.html
<OlaRune> i don't know, sounds more like some kind of throatvlearing
<OlaRune> clearing*
<OlaRune> everyone whines on my Rs
<OlaRune> :(
<binrapt> Oh well, the quality isn't that good
<OlaRune> well gtg
<OlaRune> see ya'll
<binrapt> It's not a rolled-tongue-R then, if you say so
<ricebowl> vi ses
<OlaRune> see ya
<binrapt> Like the standard German one ;)
<binrapt> Ah, Lojban j is like french j in jour or jeux
<binrapt> Jbovlaste <- sounds nearly Russian
<ricebowl> yes, Lojban j is more accurately transcribed as zh
<binrapt> Zh? I know that combination only from pinyin :)
<ricebowl> zh is how it is normally transcribed except in the languages which use z with caron
<binrapt> And it means like d + voiced coronal sibilant in that case
<upb> morning rice :)
<ricebowl> morning upb
<binrapt> Lojban programming IRC channel would be supernerdgeek1337
<chucara> I have a slight problem, that I hope someone can help me with. I need to create a serial interface for a program, but I haven't worked with serial communications before. I know exactly what to send, but I need functions for sending it. Does anyone know of a tutorial or library that will do this? I've tried googleing, but been unable to find it
<binrapt> Sheesh. Lojban is cheat hax.
<[eloi]> chucara: if you're coding for windows, i find that googling for [win32 serial] is most enlightening
<[eloi]> e.g. http://www.codeproject.com/system/chaiyasit_t.asp
<[eloi]> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=-afeghghtwgrhfqpefhr3pgh3rpg&btnG=Google+Search
<[eloi]> a search for every google-indexed page that doesn't contain "afeghghtwgrhfqpefhr3pgh3rpg", which is to say, all of them
<[eloi]> "Results 1 - 100 of about 9,670,000,000"
<lck> can i use string lol=system("uptime"); cout << lol;
<lck> ?
<[eloi]> no, because system returns an int
<[eloi]> (the exit code of the process that it ran)
<lck> blah
<OlaRune> which library is all the (system(xxxx); in?
<[eloi]> you can do system("uptime > file"); ifstream file("file"); string lol; file >> lol; cout << lol;
<lck> unistd.h
<OlaRune> thanks
<[eloi]> no, stdlib.h
<lck> oh
<OlaRune> ok
<lck> sry
<[eloi]> unistd.h is a unix header; system is standard C and C++
<OlaRune> np
<[eloi]> btw, there are unix API functions for getting system uptime, in case you wanted to go that route
<[eloi]> at least, i thought there were... hmm
<[eloi]> there's a /proc/uptime file on linux, but i don't know how to interpret the data
<lck> i wonna make something usefull
<lck> but have no idea of what
<[eloi]> also on unix, there's the popen function, which lets you open a pipe to a process (input or output, but generally not both)
<lck> i should make some crypt func...
<matja> make an os
<matja> in java
<lck> blah
<matja> then it'll be nice and portable
<lck> *stab*



<lck> i really really hate java, i rather make a os in html
<epic_> i got a terrible memory leak(s) in my code, a delete in the end on all the pointer objects should do it right? :)
<matja> actually someone made a unix clone in javascript
<lck> i need some electronica, can't code with out electronica
<[eloi]> b***drive.com
<[eloi]> or so i'm told
<matja> drum and b*** m***iv
<[eloi]> actually, i find dogsonacid.com to be most useful
<[eloi]> check out pendulum and concord dawn... wo0t
<[eloi]> matja: damn right
<matja> i have a few pendulum tracks on vinyl :)
<matja> mixing ace of base - all that she wants with pendulum & fresh - tarantula is fun
<matja> "alll that she wants, is another TARANTULA *B***LINE*"
<[eloi]> heh... that might just work
<[eloi]> wait, that's where you broke it? hmm... i was thinking that the intro happens to be about right
<matja> i mess arround with all sorts of unlikely tracks :)
<[eloi]> how about dire straits - money for nothing vs. revolting cocks - d'ya think i'm ***y?
<matja> beck - loser, is exactly 88 bpm
<matja> very handy for mixing with dnb
<matja> :)
<matja> and it has that nice drumbeat
<matja> oh i forgot this was #c++
<[eloi]> muwahaha
<[eloi]> epic_: when your app exits, all the memory it allocated will be freed automatically
<[eloi]> epic_: there's technically nothing wrong with the program int main () { new char[1000]; return 0; }
<[eloi]> however, if it's a long-running program, a memory leak can snowball into a big mess
<[eloi]> i remember when i used to run winamp under windows 95... if you left it running overnight, you *had* to reboot in the morning
<[eloi]> and i think i concluded that the leak was actually in 95, not winamp
<matja> ive never heard revolting cocks - d'ya think i'm ***y
<matja> got an mp3?
<einride> heh "c++ subroutine"
<einride> http://www.turboexcel.com/freetrialnewc5.htm
<mr^ed31> einride: used it?
<einride> yes it's the core of all my development :P
<einride> i'm not sure whether it's intended to be a joke or not though
<mr^ed31> i wonder who would buy this thing
<lck> do you like computers? *singing*
<lck> if i have int i=67; char p=(char)i; would then p=a or something like that
<lck> never mind
<[eloi]> heh
<[eloi]> p would equal 'C', actually
<[eloi]> 'A' == 65
<lck> know
<lck> if im gonna check that argv exists should i use if(argc!=2)
<[eloi]> define "argv exists" :)
<mr^ed31> hi im installing visual studio 2005
<[eloi]> technically, you're supposed to check if argv != NULL, but i've never seen the case where that *isn't* true, so i don't bother (nor do 99% of the population)
<lck> so i don't need it
<lck> good
<[eloi]> beyond that, argc is the number of elements in the argv array, including the command itself... if there's one param, then argc == 2
<[eloi]> and argv[0] would be the program's name and argv[1] would be that param
<siit> doh.. better check the clipboard before pasting :p
<lck> Segmentation fault <- what does this mean?
<[eloi]> lck: your program tried to read or write memory that it wasn't allowed to read or write, almost always due to the use of a bad pointer
<einride> invalid memory reference
<lck> aww, dosent sound good
<[eloi]> no, likely it's not :)
<Nedds> This code compiles, but it doesnt want to do what i want. It always shows X=0 and Y=2 .. I'm using GetConsoleScreenBufferInfo() .. : http://rafb.net/paste/results/C2egQH49.html
<einride> Nedds: maybe try to reread the position after changing it?
<_kriz> int Cat::GetAge()
<einride> Nedds: and take into account that cout << std::endl will affect the position
<_kriz> error C2628: 'Cat' followed by 'int' is illegal (did you forget a ';'?)
<_kriz> weird0
<_kriz> i typed that example from a c++ book
<_kriz> and vc++ cant compile it :\
<lck> omg, im a ****ing moron, i used int leng=atoi(argv[2])
<lck> should used argv[1];
<Nedds> einride aha it works like that :/ then i cant use it like i wanted to?
<einride> i have no idea what you wanted to
<Nedds> wanted to know the position of the mouse-cursor..


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