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<Soronel> $900 a month from the US gov't
<Genia4_> what???
<Soronel> and it's only that much because the state of alaska pays quite a bit more than Idaho did
<Genia4_> ****...
<Genia4_> I think you would get more around here
<blogspot> 900
<blogspot> is good
<Soronel> Genia: but I have full medical coverage, which for the situation I am in, is extremely important
<Genia4_> 900... damn...
<Genia4_> if it was israel, it would be possible to live solely on that easily
<Genia4_> but not in the US I guess
<Soronel> my medical expenses are somewhere north of $30k a year
<Genia4_> btw, how do they reprsent the disability of someone over there?
<Genia4_> here it's percentage based 0 - 100
<_m_> blogspot: http://rafb.net/paste/results/7qNO0E10.html
<Soronel> Genia: here you either are or aren't
<Genia4_> oh, here there are ranges
<Genia4_> like, for each thing that's wrong, you get some %
<blogspot> hmmm lemme check
<Soronel> no
<Soronel> if I had been working longer before I became disabled, or if I had been making more money I would get more now
<Genia4_> $900 isn't much at all
<Genia4_> how did you manage to live in idaho alone?
<Soronel> Genia: I didn't, I worked on my folk's ranch
<Soronel> and in the wood products shop
<Genia4_> oh
<Soronel> me being unable to help was another factor in making us leave
<Genia4_> but aren't there cheaper places in alaska with broadband...
<_m_> mainland, probably.
<Genia4_> what's the name of your town again, lemme check google maps
<Soronel> the town I live is one of the least expensive while still having reasonable weather
<Soronel> Petersburg
<Genia4_> are your parents retired?
<Soronel> no
<blogspot> im getting 6 errors _m_
<blogspot> aaaa
<Genia4_> alaska is AL, right?
<Genia4_> or was it AK
<[eloi]> AK
<[eloi]> AL is alabama
<Soronel> they've been self employeed most of their lives, land is their retirement savings, and we have several parcels spread around various places in Idaho
<Soronel> AJ
<Genia4_> ak works, good
<Soronel> er AK
<Soronel> sigh
<_m_> blogspot: interesting. I get no errors here.
<Soronel> could someone with access send the psdk calc to me?
<blogspot> but you changed my code
<blogspot> aswell
<blogspot> :(
<_m_> tell Soronel about psdk
<blogspot> couldnt do anything to that one ?
<Soronel> thankee sai
<_m_> of course I changed it. Your code ****ed.
<Genia4_> Soronel: how do they expect a person to live on $900...
<Genia4_> this really ****s
<_m_> My code takes 50% fewer lines and it's less errorprone.
<Genia4_> and a rich country like that
<blogspot> butt.............. aaaaaaa ... can u try to do something to it ?
<Genia4_> blogspot: like what? cast a spell on it?
<_m_> blogspot: what compiler are you using?
<blogspot> vc 6.0
<_m_> figures
<sculptor> blogspot: that's not a c++ compiler
<Genia4_> it compiles some sort of c/c++ hybrid
<Genia4_> and that too rarely
<blogspot> :o
<_m_> ADL doesn't work right with that compiler. You probably have to adorn all occurrences of 'getline' with 'std::'.
<sculptor> try this for(int i=0;;){}for(int i=0;;){}
<Soronel> Genia: by living with family or whoever you can get to take you in
<_m_> No idea why it would whine about size_type.
<sculptor> you'll get : variable i redefined, or something
<Genia4_> what if one has nowhere to go...
<blogspot> yea
<blogspot> I redfiniation
<_m_> Oh, yes, the for-scope is wrong, too.
<_m_> Replace the second i (the iterator) with some other name.
<sculptor> i think that this fails too: int main(void){}
<sculptor> if return x; is not found - compiler should 'insert': return 0;
<sculptor> but it don't
<Soronel> vc6 actually supports correct for-scope, but only in a mode that makes the entire toolset unusable
<orangesod> hey is there any function to scan a string for certain characters and change them to another? I.E map A to be C
<Genia4_> Soronel: US ****s :(
<_m_> replace(your_std_string, 'X', 'U');
<_m_> needs #include <algorithm>
<orangesod> thanks
<Soronel> Genia: *shrug* I'm personally opposed to any such aid being available, but that doesn't mean I'm stupid enough not to take it when it's there
<_m_> And if you have VC6 then you probably need to write std::replace(...
<Genia4_> opposed? what should people do then?
<Genia4_> if no support was available I mean
<_m_> starve
<Soronel> Genia: starve, live with family, accept charity
<Genia4_> what if it was an accident
<Soronel> I do believe that US charities would receive a ****load more money for such things if the gov't wasn't taxing it first
<Genia4_> like, a person who led a totally normal life and all had an unfortunate accident
<Genia4_> Soronel: but charity is rarely for the needy as you know
<Genia4_> charity fails to reach populations that really need it many times
<Soronel> Genia: why should it be the gov't job to take care of people/
<_m_> Yup. I'd rather support a fully tax-paid system instead of relying on charity.
<Soronel> I'de rather see extremely limited government
<Genia4_> Soronel: you can't let people die just because some idiot hit them with a car or something...
<Soronel> to the point that highway policing is a private matter of the people owning the roads
<Soronel> Genia: sure you can
<Genia4_> putting that person in jail doesn't help the disables person one tiny bit
<orangesod> no matching function for call to `replace(std::string&, char,
<orangesod> char)'
<orangesod> I get that _m_
<_m_> did you #include <algorithm>
<orangesod> yeah
<_m_> What compiler are you using?
<Madsy_> std::mem_fun_ref is the most bad *** use of templates I've ever seen :-P
<blogspot> the
<blogspot> vc 6 compiler
<blogspot> :S
<Genia4_> there is no easy solution to the problem
<Genia4_> but completely ignoring it isn't a solution
<_m_> orangesod: wait, my mistake. replace(s.begin(), s.end(), 'X', 'U');
<orangesod> g++
<Soronel> Genia: I just don't see taxing yourself to prosperity being a workable solution
<orangesod> thanks _m_
<orangesod> works now
<Genia4_> I would support a system where people who make a lot of money are heavily taxed in order to support the ones who really need help
<Genia4_> the problem with that is determining who really needs help
<Genia4_> people will fake anything to make money
<Genia4_> falsify any document
<Genia4_> twist any fact
<Soronel> Genia: that punishes work and rewards non-work
<Soronel> how is that a fair or balanced system?
<Genia4_> Soronel: I'm not talking about unemployment
<_m_> Soronel: that nonsense. It's rather easy to find out if a person is really disabled.
<Genia4_> I'm talking about supporting the disabled
<Genia4_> I'm against paying people to sit at home
<_Butcher_> you don't need heavy taxes to support disabled people
<Genia4_> but still, someone must help the ones who cna't help themselves
<Genia4_> can't physically or mentally
<_Butcher_> since the number of disabled people is m***ively outweighed by able bodied people
<Genia4_> not can't because they are lazy
<Genia4_> _Butcher_: but you can't tax everyone either
<Genia4_> not the same tax anyway
<_Butcher_> of course not
<Genia4_> the people who really work but hardly make enough to support their family shouldn't be taxed
<_Butcher_> not heavy doesn't mean equal for all
<Genia4_> only problem with government support is that they support the unneedy and neglect the needy
<Soronel> Genia: Okay. I guess I've never seen anyone seriously putting such a thing on the table, as subsidizing disabled people, while not soing much with low earning working people
<_m_> Good night, #C++
<Genia4_> night _m_
<Genia4_> in Israel for example
<Genia4_> if you have 12 children
<Genia4_> you never have to work a single day in your life
<Genia4_> government pays it all


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