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<Genia4_> btw, how is the electrical current in the brain generated?
<binrapt> ATP!1
<binrapt> No clue.
<Genia4_> I really don't see where we could have voltage for electrons to want to flow :(
<binrapt> Something about ions and membranes or so
<Genia4_> yeah... electrical field could also be causing it
<Genia4_> lemme read wikipedia
<binrapt> K+ and Na+ ions IIRC
<binrapt> Cl- and something else...protein stuff, but negative, too
<_m_> Genia4_: there are ion pumps in the cell membranes. They create an electrical potential.
<binrapt> Yeah!
<binrapt> K+-Na+-pumps
<_m_> (quite interesting fact: it needs only a few thousand ions to create the potential)
<_m_> yup, ATP driven.
<binrapt> Hah!
<binrapt> And it was like -70 mV
<ricebowl> hallo binrapt
<binrapt> Hmm I happen to have that stuff at school right now
<_m_> wow, cool.
<ricebowl> weird how so many people from #asm frequent this chan as well.
<_m_> I studied physiology back when I studied CS.
<ricebowl> C++ and ***embly are completely contraposed
<binrapt> _m_: Weird combination :)
<binrapt> ricebowl: Not really
<_m_> (compulsory optional subject)
<Genia4_> _m_: why didn't you take something computer related?
<Genia4_> I can't imagine myself picking a non-computer/math related course just to fill up points
<binrapt> Programmers have to know how the human body works in order to exploit it even more, obviously!
<_m_> Genia4_: it was part of medical measurement techniques (which is computer related).
<Genia4_> I hate taking tests for stuff I have to remember
<Genia4_> history, biology etc
<Genia4_> _m_: oh
<Genia4_> here I go again, split lines
<Genia4_> how do I lose such an awful habit?
<_m_> physiology was one of the most interesting topics I enjoyed when studying.
<Genia4_> enjoy subject != enjoy taking test in it
<_m_> (Other interesting topics were quite unrelated to computers)
<_m_> Genia4_: physiology tests were fun.
<Genia4_> getting a 100 in a memory-based test is much harder than in logic/calculation based one
<binrapt> Depends
<Genia4_> I mean, if you forget a detail, you can't go around it
<_m_> Physiology test preparations took me 8 weeks, but it was definitely worth it.
<Genia4_> history is my msot hated subject to take tests in
<Genia4_> math is the best
<Genia4_> if you solved enough problems, you'll be out in minutes
<_m_> 30 minutes of oral exam, 27 pages of protocol. That poor guy had to write like crazy.
<Genia4_> if you didn't, even 10 hours won't help you
<Genia4_> I really like the people who get all nuts when time runs out
<Genia4_> as if an extra 10 minutes would have given them anything
<Genia4_> if you know the subject, you'll be done in half the time
<_m_> yeah, those people should spend the remaining time on finishing their stuff instead of whining for a little more time.
<Genia4_> especially true in math
<Genia4_> where the correct solution is usually short
<Genia4_> unless the prof was extra evil
<_m_> that depends on the test, Genia4_. In highschool, my physics teacher had no idea how much time his exams will need.
<binrapt> Love those
<_m_> As a result, a proposedly 2 hours (written) exam, usually took 4 or 5.
<Genia4_> _m_: my physics teacher always gave what seemed like not enough time
<watv> can you have an array of pointerS? int *haha[3]; ? if yes, what the hell does it do lol ?
<Genia4_> but when I did my finals, which were about the same level of difficultly, I was done in half the time
<ricebowl> watv - yes, and it's an array of pointers...
<binrapt> watv: Yes and it is an array of pointers
<Genia4_> I mean, I used to get 40 - 60 during the year
<_m_> yes, yes, nothing.
<Genia4_> got 90 in the finals
<watv> aaah
<Genia4_> his tests weren't any harder
<watv> i can't comprehend the array of pointers notion
<Genia4_> physics just takes more time to fully comprehend
<Genia4_> I like physics, but would hate to take a physics exam
<watv> so basically each element points to an address ?
<Genia4_> never minded math, chemistry, computer exams
<ricebowl> watv - yes
<watv> oo ***y
<Genia4_> bible exams are also cool
<Genia4_> I have 96 in bible
<_m_> [first pointer][second pointer][third pointer][fourth pointer] // an array of four pointers.
<Genia4_> I mean, you actually have the book with yo
<_m_> Genia4_: huh?
<watv> sweet
<Genia4_> _m_: bible, obligatory subject
<_m_> OMG
<Genia4_> highest percent of failures
<watv> a pointer of arrays , is that possible?
<Genia4_> more than math
<ricebowl> Genia4_ - don't you mean the Torah?
<Genia4_> no, I did not mean the torah
<watv> lol
<_m_> That's insane.
<ricebowl> you are Jewish, correct? ;)
<watv> thats the most retarded question ever
<Genia4_> _m_: insanely hard exam if you can't read ancient hebrew :)
<Genia4_> very weird questions
<Genia4_> but the good part is that it's all written, you just have to dig it out
<watv> i used to have quran exams
<Genia4_> they usually ask "what doesn't make sense in the p***age"
<ricebowl> watv - arrays degrade into pointers
<Genia4_> answering "god doesn't exist" doesn't really cut it
<ricebowl> haha
<_m_> haha
<mauke> !declare foo as pointer to array[2] of int
<cdecl> int (*foo)[2];
<Genia4_> like we had a p***age where it said that some king was 2 years old when he became king
<ricebowl> watv - a pointer can be thought of as an array of 0 or more elements (yes, it can be 0 if the pointer is NULL)
<Genia4_> and then immediately he went to war
<mauke> ricebowl: no, wrong
<Genia4_> so they asked how can you explain this
<Genia4_> the answer is "a typo"
<Genia4_> that's it, just that
<watv> sweet
<_m_> hehe.
<Genia4_> no need to start making up stuff
<watv> so basically if p is a pointer to an array and i do this
<Genia4_> they never look for a non-obvious answer, so it's a really easy exam
<watv> (p+1) it goes to the next element?
<binrapt> p + 1 will point to the next element
<mauke> no, do you mean *p + 1?
<watv> sweet
<watv> actually
<_m_> watv: depends on your understanding of "pointer to array".
<binrapt> Well, he said p + 1
<watv> *(p+1)
<mauke> binrapt: yes, and it's wrong
<Genia4_> also, hebrew finals are split into two parts. Analysis of lots of boring crap, and writing a 2 - 3 page text on some subject
<Genia4_> I liked the latter, hated the former
<_m_> If you mean, "pointer to the first element of an array" then p+1 will indeed point to the second element.
<Genia4_> I'm good at writing
<Genia4_> in my pre-final exam I wrote about drugs, never been proud of anything I wrote
<Genia4_> it was just so... perfect :)
<Genia4_> only got me 88 though, my hebrew is awful :(
<Genia4_> I write like I speak :)
<watv> anyone know anything about modifies claus
<watv> and stuff like that
<watv> clause
<Genia4_> obligatory bible ****s, but it's actually a gift rather than a punishment
<binrapt> <Genia4_> I'm good at writing <Genia4_> I write like I speak :) <- contradiction? :)
<Genia4_> the stuff they could put instead could be way worse
<Genia4_> binrapt: no, I write good info, I just phrase it awfully :)
<_m_> binrapt: he's good at speaking formally?
<binrapt> _m_: Possible but unlikely ;)
<snibril> binrapt: he means fast & irrelevant
<binrapt> Heh
<Genia4_> never irrelevant
<snibril> and surely there's a similarity
<_m_> binrapt: I envision a career as a bureaucrat.
<snibril> Genia4_: you'Re #1 on off-topic blabber
<Genia4_> I'd rather write less but to the point than write nothing about something I don't know anything about anyway
<_m_> snibril: that'd be a career in politics then.
<Genia4_> I never repeat myself
<binrapt> For him? Hm,
<Genia4_> _m_: I hate bureacracy
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