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<Genia4_> _m_: I hate bureacracy
<Genia4_> but I can imagine myself a politician
<Genia4_> one people would hate :)
<_m_> It's easy to be a hated politician in Israel.
<Genia4_> well, the problem is that we have too many subcultures
<ricebowl> is there a such thing as a non-hated politician in Israel?
<binrapt> Yeah, found an atheist party
<_m_> binrapt: lol
<ricebowl> I thought it was "damned if you do, damned if you don't"
<ricebowl> since either the Palestinians or the Jews will want to claim your life
<_m_> ricebowl: that's the point.
<Genia4_> well, we have the ultra orthodox party
<Genia4_> and the party that hates them
<_m_> oppinions in Isreal are so extreme that everyone will be hated by some people.
<Genia4_> we have the main right winged party, and the main left winged party
<Genia4_> it's all opposites
<snibril> ****ing go to #politics
<Genia4_> and usually, if you go for the party that shares one of your views, that party contradicts another view of yours
<Genia4_> hard to pick :(
<Genia4_> snibril: ****ing go away
<_m_> uh oh
<binrapt> snibril: Even an operator participates, therefore you are not to intervene
<Genia4_> I imagine I'll have a hard time voting when it's time
<Genia4_> I would vote for the anti-orthodox party, but they are a hate party which kinda ****s
<Genia4_> all they do is piss off the orthodox one
<Genia4_> although they did take it up to themselves to help students out, which got them tons of extra seats
<Genia4_> main problem is this: The ultra orthogox party is big, big enough for everyone to try and get them on their side. For this "taking sides" part they ask for a lot of money. That money they use for stuff like free religious education, free meals & school busses, free this free that, getting themselves even more votes, more power, more money
<Genia4_> cycle repeats
<Genia4_> people are like "My kid goes to kindergarten for free, why not give my vote to them"
<roopjm> Movie idea: The Goondock Saints, The Goonies go after the Rich ***holes building the Golf Course... Boondock Saint style
<Genia4_> and our ultra orthodox population is enourmous, and growing, since every family has like 10 children
<Genia4_> _m_, binrapt: how do you like your new leader?
<_m_> She hasn't been elected, yet. ****y times approaching.
<Genia4_> she hasn't? I thought she got the chair already
<_m_> We'll find ourselves in dubbya's *** soon.
<Genia4_> do you like the current guy (can't spell his last name, so I won't even try)
<Genia4_> what's dubbya?
<_m_> huhu
<jorge1> hello everyone
<Genia4_> google seems to bring up bush
<_m_> Genia4_: dubbya is Mr. Bush.
<Genia4_> why do you say that? what does she have to do with bush?
<czthwrk> Genia4_: only with safe search disabled...
<jorge1> I was wondering, do you guys know of any c++ IDEs for linux?
<_m_> Genia4_: If she had won the previous elections then we would have been very involved in every war started by the US recently.
<roopjm> KIDE is pretty good
<kakun> jorge1, emacs?
<Genia4_> _m_: Why is that? Why do you have to get involved in US crap?
<_m_> Because she wanted to.
<Genia4_> roopjm: what's that?
<binrapt> Genia4_: Leader? The chancelleress? Uh.
<binrapt> This isn't a dictatorship or so
<jorge1> kakun: I was kind a looking for something a little more robust
<Genia4_> binrapt: you know what I meant, don't politically-correct me :)
<jorge1> roopjm: is KIDE the same as KDevelop?
<Genia4_> a flood? How does a flood win an election?
<roopjm> yeS
<roopjm> sorry! i couldn't remember that properly
<Genia4_> _m_: whom did you vote for?
<jorge1> KDevelop is kinda retarted, it doesn't allow empty projects, but I'm just gonna mess around with that for a bit, thanks
<_m_> Genia4_: the government handled it pretty well, and there was a wave of solidarity in Germany. Pretty good mood for short term.
<_m_> Good mood == old goverment will get re-elected.
<Genia4_> How does a christian party get so many votes anyway?
<_m_> Because the majority of people here feel christian.
<roopjm> If you talk to god you pray, if god talks to you you're crazy
<_nx> odd, I thought it was crazy both ways.
<roopjm> tomato tomato
<Genia4_> _m_: yeah, you sure did get a lot of attention this election :)
<_m_> we did?
<_nx> roopjm, it's not funny when you WRITE IT
<Genia4_> _m_: ynet.co.il had something about it almost daily
<Genia4_> _m_: our biggest news website
<binrapt> I was surprised to see Merkel's nasty visage on CNN all the time.
<_m_> binrapt: the whole world has to suffer.
<Genia4_> lol
<Genia4_> We had a female prime minister once
<Genia4_> Widely belived to be our worst
<_m_> Genia4_: people here doubt Merkel is really female.
<binrapt> http://www.igadi.org/artigos/2005/imaxes/cdu_angela_merkel640.jpg
<binrapt> It's a Merkel!
<Genia4_> girls can't lead :)
<roopjm> yes yes i know _nx
<binrapt> http://www.satiricum.de/images/a2004-06/20040619-merkellook1.jpg <- nice
<Genia4_> well, ours is like 5 times wider
<mauke> "darf das kanzler werden?"
<Genia4_> so, not a pretty sight either
<Genia4_> mauke: translate please
<_m_> binrapt: I wonder if she got her cheeks taped for that odd kind of grin.
<Genia4_> binrapt: it's her "brainstorming" pose
<Genia4_> the one she ***umes when forced with a decision, or a question
<_nx> oh god
<mauke> I can't translate it
<Genia4_> you know, making the neurons active and all
<binrapt> Heh
<a> is there a difference between _asm and __asm ?
<_m_> "is it allowed to become chancellor?"
<_nx> a, yes. Next.
<_m_> a: neither of them is C++.
<_nx> why would anyone post pics of tub girl or goatse when they could post a pic of that woman instead... ugh
<Genia4_> she actually kinda looks like a chimp in that "thinking" pic
<Genia4_> chimps ***ume that position when thinking, coupled with a headscratch
<Genia4_> _nx: I think goatse is married to tubgirl
<_nx> Genia4_, but that woman is more horrible
<Genia4_> after all, he has a wedding ring, and someone had to be behind the tubgirl camera
<Genia4_> they're a perfect match
<binrapt> She became famous for comparing the process of transporting and storing nuclear waste with making a cake
<binrapt> (She actually studied Physics)
<Genia4_> _m_: where in germany do you live?
<_nx> binrapt, okay, what was the analogy exactly?
<_m_> Munich.
<Genia4_> binrapt: doesn't that contradict god in many ways and therefore blasphemy?
<_m_> Genia4_: God made transporting and storing nuclear waste similar to making a cake.
<Genia4_> when creating man, I doubt he had thought of tubgirls popping up somewhere in the gene tree
<binrapt> "Nothing works exactly like the recipe says when making a cake. Sometimes some things just go wrong. So what?"
<binrapt> Something like that
<_m_> Easy kind of solution for every kind of religious contradiction :)
<binrapt> I bet _m_ could translate that better
<_m_> lol
<Genia4_> why is Rezept capitalized?
<binrapt> Because it is a noun
<_m_> because it's a noun
<binrapt> Nouns are capitalised in German
<Genia4_> when you einen Kuchen backen, geht auch nicht alles exact nach recepie. Da f?llt schon mal ein Mehlst?ubchen daneben. Na und?"
<Genia4_> my understand of the sentence :)
<_m_> Sorry, I'm unable to translate that without losing the meaning.
<Genia4_> Kuchen is probably cake
<Genia4_> backen is bake
<binrapt> Hmm
<Genia4_> einen is probably a linking word of some sort
<mauke> geht = goes, auch = also/too, einen = a, nicht = not, alles = all
<_m_> 'einen' = 'a' (in this context)
<_m_> mauke: You can say you to me.
<Genia4_> _m_: one hell of an "a" you have there :(
<mauke> haha
<binrapt> We have tons of a's in German ;)
<a> <- einen
<binrapt> Ein, eine, einer, eines, einen etc
<Genia4_> ok, When you bake a cake, not everything goes exactly like in the recepie
<binrapt> Oh, and eins :)
<mauke> einem
<Genia4_> now, how do we translate the rest?
<binrapt> Ah, dative, yeah
<Genia4_> isn't eins "1" ?
<binrapt> Well, it just depends on the case and on the uhm..singular/plural thing.
<Genia4_> Da f?llt schon mal ein Mehlst?ubchen daneben. Na und?
<Genia4_> ok, what does that mean?
<Genia4_> don't see familiar roots :(
<_m_> Genia4_: yes, "ein" is also the indefinite pronoun.
<Genia4_> digits in german sound so awful
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