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<Hipnotic2> does anyone know why line 10 gives me an Unhandled Exception? http://rafb.net/paste/results/fip3iW47.html
<dizzi> is properly initialized?
<Hipnotic2> I ***ume it is, I was just following the example from the MSDN
<dizzi> http://www.codeproject.com/internet/SocketFileTransfer.asp
<dizzi> try this example (i didnt read it)
<dizzi> maybe you will find something helpful
<dizzi> im not sure how is it with windows
<dizzi> but its probably safe option to choose port above 1024
<Hipnotic2> thanks
<matja> c++ unrelated question but im sure soneone knows: using just the keyboard, how can one maximize a putty window in windows?
<matja> i usually use alt+space to get the application menu, but putty traps it
<matja> nm, special putty option for it
<randyb> what does it mean to have variable like this: int *&b = a; is b a pointer to a reference?
<randyb> or is it a reference to a pointer?
<jberg> i think the latter, not sure though
<pepp^> it means b i simply another name for a
<pepp^> where as a appears to be a pointer to an int
<[eloi]> read right-to-left
<[eloi]> b is a & to a * to an int
<[eloi]> int *p, *&q = p; p = new int; delete q; // q is an alias of p
<_m_> randyb: you can't create a pointer to a reference or a reference to a reference.
<Genia4> I wonder why they chose & to be a reference when it's already used for getting the address of something
<Genia4> I can imagine it being very confusing to people who have hard enough time with pointers
<pepp^> Genia4: it is confusing. & can mean several things.
<pepp^> & used as alias, used to get the address of a variable, and used in functions for p*** by reference.
<Genia4> @ isn't used anywhere in c++
<Genia4> could have been used instead
<pepp^> or they could use "#"
<Genia4> # can't be used
<Genia4> # starts a preprocessor directive
<pepp^> ohhh
<pepp^> may be they could use "~"
<pepp^> or question mark
<pepp^> ?
<pepp^> the code would appear very cryptic with "?" in it i think
<Genia4> question mark is used already
<Genia4> a ? b : c
<upb> ~ is binary negate isnt it
<pepp^> oh forget about it then. They've pretty much used the enitre keys of the keyboard
<_m_> pepp^: ~ already has two different meanings.
<pepp^> _m_: what are they?
<Genia4> @ would be optimal
<Genia4> nothing uses @
<_m_> binary negation and destruction.
<pepp^> _m_: you are right.
<[eloi]> _m_: i call it the shiva operator
<_m_> Genia4: I'd be glad if a few symbols are left for reasonable language extensions :)
<[eloi]> er, vishnu
<[eloi]> damnit, i give up
<pepp^> [eloi]: shiva operator?
<_m_> (Like, say, for defining your own operators)
<[eloi]> vishnu, indian god of destruction
<[eloi]> (and binary negation, now, too)
<Genia4> @ as your own?
<[eloi]> it was a joke, and poorly executed at that
<Genia4> what can you possible define @ as?
<pepp^> @ is used for email addresses. That ofcourse is not a part of C++.
<dehoy> the email operator
<pepp^> [eloi]: you should see alpacino's dialogue in glengarry glen ross
<[eloi]> heh
<_m_> Genia4: I'd rather use it as prefix and/or postfix for naming new operators. The new infix whatever-operator: foo @whatever@ bar
<pepp^> He speaks about "patel" last names. and says, Shiva came down to earth and gave them a million dollar and said, sign the deal, he [patel] wouldn't do it. Lord Vishu said the same thing, he wouldn't do it.
<Genia4> well, I still don't like the deal with * and &
<Genia4> doesn't confuse me, but is really really really wrong
<Genia4> hmm, ` could work for custom operators
<Genia4> and @ for references
<Genia4> a `op` b;
<Genia4> wow... I really hate people who can't burn cd's
<zeux> hehe
<Genia4> my uncle calls me, telling me his son's friend's father burned him this game
<Genia4> and after installing, it still asks for cd
<pepp^> Genia4: is that it? I hate people who can't figure out wireless stuff
<Genia4> a game that requires 256 colors
<Genia4> and he managed to not burn it correctly
<Genia4> such people should not be allowed a burner :(
<Genia4> when the first mp3 discmans appeared, I had tons of friends calling me asking wether they should burn their mp3's as audio cd or data cd
<Genia4> or when dsl started getting common, the amount of people who can't read the damn manual written in HEBREW
<Genia4> actually, they usually give 2 manuals
<Genia4> for exteme cases
<Genia4> and I still got calls
<Genia4> or people who have no idea what kind of hardware they have and ask me to send them a copy of my driver
<Genia4> yeah, really gonna help
<Genia4> computers are way too common these days :(
<zeux> yawn
<upb> thing ithing is, you cant let other ppl know that youre good with computers :P
<Genia4> and what I hate most is coming to a person's home to reinstall the OS. I always ask "do you have the lan card's drivers + isp username/p***word" they always immediately respond with yet
<Genia4> we install windows, bam, can't find the land card's drivers
<Genia4> and even if the drivers are there, no isp username/p***word
<Genia4> as if it's so hard to remember :(
<upb> have you tried looking gfor the drivers in their pants?
<Genia4> or people with damn old computers who think they have the latest pentium 4
<Genia4> I come over, they have a 7 year old celeron
<Genia4> really, people have no idea what they are buying these days
<Genia4> they know it's a "pentium", and it has 80gb of "memory"
<zeux> pah pentiums **** :P
<Genia4> really, there should be cops knocking on people's doors
<Genia4> if the person has a computer and has no list of hardware in it, they should confescate the computer
<Genia4> that simple :(
<EdgEy> Genia4, yeah
<_m_> fwiw, I don't know what NICs I have in my computers. Why should I even care?
<niklaus> priority_queue extracts the greatest element by Q.top , how do i make it the smallest ele
<_m_> By using a different comparison predicate.
<niklaus> _m_: can you gimme a small example
<niklaus> priority_queue < int> Q
<niklaus> ;
<Genia4> _m_: if they use generic drivers, you really should not know
<Genia4> but for specific stuff
<niklaus> now i want to extract smallest element when Q.top() is called
<Genia4> people don't know if they have amd or intel at times
<Genia4> seen that too
<Genia4> they know they have a "computer" and a "box" - computer is the monitor and "box" is the "box" :)
<Genia4> people still call the monitor a computer around here
<Genia4> my mom does :(
<_m_> niklaus: std::priority_queue<int, std::vector<int>, std::greater<int> >
<_m_> severals machines have the computer inside the monitor, actually.
<Genia4> _m_: not common enough for people to actually know such stuff exists
<Genia4> I mean, my mom is aware of the box under the desk
<Genia4> but has no name for it
<patz> the iMac isn't common? :)
<dizzi> well ppl should know about computer at least so much like about cars
<dizzi> and driving rulez
<Genia4> yeah, he's right
<Genia4> before getting a license, you have to know a BIT of theory about the internals
<niklaus> std::priority_queue<int, std::vector<int>, std::greater<int> >
<dizzi> there should be something like driving licences :)
<EdgEy> Genia4, no
<Genia4> to p*** theory
<niklaus> i am getting compilation error
<Genia4> why isn't it the same for computers :(
<EdgEy> the "box" is the "hard drive"
<Genia4> EdgEy: lol
<EdgEy> :)
<dizzi> anyway i love movies where is hero shooting to monitor, and destroying all datas ;)
<Genia4> yeah, a lot of people have 80gb of "memory" around here
<Genia4> which I find most annoying
<EdgEy> don't unplug that while it's on!!!!! (most people i know talking about USB ports)
<dizzi> :)
<Genia4> I mean... how dumb can one be :(
<Genia4> EdgEy: yeah
<ruroni> cause you could easily kill innocent bystastanders with a car... Computers aren't quite as hazardous.
<Genia4> also, ipods have a label "do not connect without installing software"
<_m_> you likely need #include <functional>
<Genia4> tried to explain a friend who is pretty good with computers that it's bull
<Genia4> but he wouldn't believe me
<EdgEy> argh i hate that
<Genia4> idiots should not be allowed electronics :(
<dizzi> i remember that some friend told me that when you cancel mem test in POST, you can damage memory :)
<EdgEy> my mom is fixated on this Creative MediaSource **** to put mp3's on her zen jukebox
<EdgEy> god damn!! drag the file in explorer!!
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