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<prim> why don't you get it off cvs then?
<prim> they don't seem to have the files put into a proper package yet
<tmpvar_> uh oh
<agentsim> does anyone have a links to intel's 4-part x86 processor design book?
<jamesd-> not sure of the access details to their CVS repository... not sure it's worth the time to hunt for them...
<prim> I downloaded it
<prim> I can send you it
<jamesd-> prim: or you could tell me how you downloaded it, that'd be great.
<prim> I use a CVS client
<prim> pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/chaos-pp
<prim> it's there
<prim> I use SmartCVS on windows, but I think it works on linux as well
<prim> http://www.smartcvs.com/smartcvs/download.html
<jamesd-> You know the anon p***word?
<prim> it is a great cvs client and it is free of charge
<prim> there is no p***word required
<tmpvar_> :(
<jamesd-> prim: last I looked, the cvs protocol always requires a p***word, though it's usually trivial for anonymous access.
<jamesd-> And certainly the server is rejecting me with authorization failed.
<prim> let me see if I can figure out what this client uses
<prim> yes I see that, from my linux box it requires a p***
<prim> and empty is rejected
<Jey> http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=88951 TFM
<Jey> rather, URL to TFM
<prim> i press enter but it rejects me :P
<Symmetry_> well visual studio is a *****
<prim> oh no it works
<Jey> hm that's probably just SF.net CVS servers ****ing again
<Symmetry_> it installed sql server and there is no way to uninstall it, eh
<FOXX> does anyone know a good vs2k5 profiler that does instrumentation, in addition to sampling?
<jamesd-> Jey: thanks. For some reason I find getting information from SF to be a PITA.
<prim> jamesd it worked for me, did you manage?
<Jey> jamesd-: it is. the project pages are poorly organized with that silly "tabs" navigation bar
<prim> and the multiple "entry" points to them
<Jey> yeah
<Vova> hey guys whats the difference between the -> and the * ?
<prim> they don't have an intuitive way to find things
<Kniht> a->b is equivalent to (*a).b
<Jey> except for overloaded -> :)
<Kniht> it should still be equivalent?
<Kniht> err, s/?/:P/
<Vova> Kniht what is b was also a pointer
<Vova> and i wanted its value
<Vova> value its pointing to that is
<slip> when working with very large numbers in the console, how do I make it only display up to the decimal place?
<prim> *p gives you it's value
<Kniht> Vova: then apply * to it
<prim> it's dereference operator
<Vova> a->*b?
<Kniht> *(a->b)
<Vova> ahh :) yes that makes sence
<slip> anyone, please? this ***ignment is due at 9pm :/
<Kniht> calc emergency
<CalcMe> emergency = Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on our part.
<Kniht> calc places
<CalcMe> places = (#include <iomanip> #include <iostream>) std::cout << std::fixed << std::setprecision(numPlaces) << myFloatOrDouble;
<slip> its not an emergency persay, just something minor that i cant really find in google
<slip> thanks
<Jey> slip: you could output it as an integer, if it's within range
<Symmetry_> per se
<Symmetry_> the grammar police is back
<Kniht> are* back
<jamesd-> bbl
<Symmetry_> hm.
<Symmetry_> needless to say, I'm not comfortable with this development.
<slip> Symmetry_: you just got zung
<Symmetry_> not necessarily; police can be singular too
<Kniht> that'd be police force
<Symmetry_> yes
<Kniht> as a noun, police is always plural
<Symmetry_> as an institution
<Symmetry_> I remember getting into an argument with my boss. he objected to me using "police are searching the home of..."
<Symmetry_> he couldn't understand that police can be plural
<Kniht> a department can't search, it's officers can though
<Symmetry_> yes
<Symmetry_> but in Romanian, it's valid to say "police" as a department searched a home
<Symmetry_> so naturally he extrapolated
<Symmetry_> (my boss)
<Kniht> oh, i only know english
<Kniht> and that probably not very well
<Symmetry_> I speak it good enough :)
<oxix_m> the polices are getting out of hand
<Symmetry_> ooolld joke
<Symmetry_> ... but you have to admit jokes like "furniture police" and "grammar police" are institutions
<Kniht> do pistachios grow on trees? i want a pistachio tree
<Vova> can a cl*** have both static and none static functions?
<Kniht> yes
<method|> is there a way to chdir to the HOME directory? chdir("$HOME"); doesnt work
<Kniht> method|: use getenv
<Symmetry_> I wonder why?
<Alipha> chdir("~"); perhaps
<Vova> Kniht im getting this error for some reason:
<Symmetry_> since when is chdir part of C++?
<Jey> I thought ~ is expanded by the shell
<method|> thanks
<Kniht> Vova: struct S { static void f(); }; void S::f() {} // don't need static outside of the cl***
<Kniht> Symmetry_: did i say it was?
<Symmetry_> no
<slip> using set precision
<slip> is there a way to just setf to display only to real numbers, and ignore leading zeros?
<slip> noshowpoint, nevermind
<Vova> hey guys what does this type of error generally mean ? :
<frbnstien> that you either didn't link to the library containing the function, or didn't implement the function.
<frbnstien> In this case, the function is rational::gcd
<Vova> thanks frbnstien
<dmitry> Anyone have any idea why I get "Bad file descriptor" and "Resource temporarily unavailable" errors from select() with this piece of code? http://pastebin.com/411065
<dmitry> I don't wanna bother using poll() because its not portable
<MaTiVo> hey guys
<MaTiVo> i'm a little confused with the use of a "string" object and my book isn't helping
<MaTiVo> to avoid memory leaks...must i dynamically allocate memory for string objects?
<dmitry> uhh?
<MaTiVo> like...
<dmitry> MaTiVo: how are you going to allocate memory for different sized strings
<MaTiVo> in a cl*** constructor for example
<dmitry> without dynamically allocating them
<MaTiVo> for example...
<MaTiVo> if "Employee( const string &, const string &, const string & );
<MaTiVo> is my constructor
<MaTiVo> would i have to allocate memory for those 3 strings?
<ZorbaTHut> mativo, the string cl*** handles its own memory allocation
<ZorbaTHut> that's a significant part of why it's recommended ;)
<MaTiVo> i see
<MaTiVo> so say i have string variables in a base cl***...the derived cl*** wouldn't need a copy constructor, ***ignment operator, etc...right?
<Alipha> right
<brombomb> hello
<MaTiVo> what's the point of using char[] or char * in ANY situation then?
<MaTiVo> string sounds a whole lot better
<Alipha> there's really nothing in c++.
<ZorbaTHut> mativo, efficiency and control
<brombomb> I've got a weird help need
<ZorbaTHut> sometimes you want to be able to do nasty things with buffers that string doesn't support
<brombomb> I need my code tested in a unix eviroment
<MaTiVo> i see...
<brombomb> anyone willing to help
<ZorbaTHut> however, in general, yes, you're right - string should be used unless you have a serious, serious pressing need for something else. :)
<FOXX> how can I make an ofstream flush afetr every <<?
<Alipha> brombomb: maybe
<Alipha> foxx: put << flush after every << :-)
<Alipha> foxx: why would you need to?
<FOXX> no, I remember there was some manipulator that enabled that.
<FOXX> for a log file.
<brombomb> Alipha its a pattern matcher and works fine in my windows enviroment
<ZorbaTHut> I have a growing project right now which is a game. I'm not using new or delete once yet. I'm about to write a chunk that's absolutely performance-critical, though, and I'll have to use 'em in there.
<Alipha> ZorbaTHut: personal project?
<ZorbaTHut> alipha, yeah. Devastation Net. http://skynet.pavlovian.net/d-net/d-net.gif <-- screenshot
<ZorbaTHut> if you want to play it I can give you a URL ;)
<Alipha> that looks cool. sure
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