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<b1shop> does rpc over http require port 443 to be accessable?
<Envador> b1shop, yes, as far as i know
<b1shop> i thought so. what a nightmare
<b1shop> i thought the whole point was so that outlook clients can access exchange remotely
<b1shop> opening 443 to the internet for remote users is just stupid
<BaRFaTWRK> can anyone help m e with a really simple backup question?
<BaRFaTWRK> we have backup exec and re using it to remotly backup our servers
<BaRFaTWRK> we have the remote agents for machines, but we havne't purchased the 'exchange option agent'
<BaRFaTWRK> if we ever had to restore the exchange server, would the mail stores be okay?
<b1shop> you'd have to unmount, copy and re-mount the edb and stm files
<b1shop> if i remember correctly
<b1shop> you just won't get brick level backups without the agents
<BaRFaTWRK> brick level?
<BaRFaTWRK> I've never heard that term before
<b1shop> the agents actually mount he exchange store and back up the suers
<b1shop> users
<b1shop> so you don;t have to restore a whole server just for one person;t mailbox
<BaRFaTWRK> ah k
<BaRFaTWRK> I was just worried
<BaRFaTWRK> because I know regular databases, you can't simply back them up while they're running?
<Sabba> BaRFaTWRK: What do you consider a "regular database" then because every major DBMS with backups while running.
<BaRFaTWRK> sabba:okay I'm just wrong then
<BaRFaTWRK> dunno where I got that idea from
<BaRFaTWRK> could've sworn there are some databases which you need to dismount before backing up
<Adonis> sup dawgs
<Seascrape> hi all. when exchange is installed, it adds some things to active directory users and computers management. is there any way to get those additions on a normal winxp computer that already has the admintools pack installed?
<b1shop> Seascrape: yes. it's on option in the MMC
<b1shop> you might have to install the EX admin tools
<Seascrape> hm, k
<Seascrape> are they on the cd?
<Seascrape> i couldnt find them..
<b1shop> ugg. been awhile..
<Seascrape> or better still, for download (latest version, etc etc)
<Seascrape> there's web access admin tools
<Seascrape> but that doesnt go far for AD users/comps admin mmc
<b1shop> i don;t have a machine on front of me
<b1shop> and now that i think about it, i think i was using a server os
<Seascrape> windows update doesnt detect exchange huh
<b1shop> microsoft update might
<b1shop> i know WSUS does
<Seascrape> anyways, thanx all
<Seascrape> i gues ill have to stick to remote desktop
<Seascrape> for a little while
<Seascrape> (if at all)
<|asp> anyone have experience with either barracuda or symantec spam appliances
<J2k^> nope
<|asp> i was reading some good reviews of barracuda but the "network specialist" was saying the symantec appliance was much better
<J2k^> never use symantec as anti-spam server
<Adonis> barracuda is kewl
<Adonis> just takes tweeking
<Adonis> linux based
<Adonis> yawn
<Havokmon> Is it possible for Exchange to host a domain, and have two SMTP interfaces. One that delivers to the hosted domain, and one that relays to another server?
<Havokmon> The server hosts multiple domains, but I don't want the default interface to deliver to the new domain until all the accounts have been migrated to it from qmail.
<Havokmon> So I want the default interface to relay that domain back to the qmail server, and a 'new' interface that would recieve forwarded mail (migrated users) from the qmail box to be delivered locally.
<Havokmon> I can do the qmail side, but I don't run the Exchange server, and I don' know if the
<Havokmon> Exchange box can do that
<Havokmon> I take it that's a no ;)
<mes> pretty sure you can
<mes> if i understand you correctly
<Havokmon> ok... with an SMTP connector maybe?
<Havokmon> Does Outlook RPC over HTTP still use SMTP to send?
<Havokmon> The Exchange box is at a central site, and hosts multiple domains and we're supposed to connect to it using RPC over HTTP
<Havokmon> I haven't gotten to the client setup because I wanted the accounts to exist first :)
<mes> yes an smtp connector
<mes> and id say it still sends mail out through the exchange smtp
<mes> but to be honest ive never setup or used rpc over http
<Havokmon> ok.. this is all new to me.. and the Exchange guy won't talk to me for some reason :/
<Havokmon> *checks deodorant*
<mes> a) he doesnt know what hes doing
<mes> b) he thinks you are an idiot
<Havokmon> lol could be both ;)
<mes> those would be my guesses
<Havokmon> sometimes a leads to b :P
<Havokmon> Thanks for the info, I'll see what I can do with it :)
<reb00t> bleh
<reb00t> i hate daytime
<mes> whys that
<mes> you a vampire?
<reb00t> if given the option, yes
<reb00t> i went to bed at 5:30 this morning -- its 8:15 now :)
<mes> heh yeah taht always ****s
<mes> i like the morning cause no one gets here till 10 or 11
<reb00t> i was working on a proposal for a customer most of the night and now i have to be on site at another place at 9am
<mes> wow this flock browser is a complete ripoff of firefox
<reb00t> heh
<mes> ahh it is a mozilla thing
<mes> http://www.flock.com/fiveways/togetstarted/13.php
<mes> pretty cool
<reb00t> oh well, time to get rollin
<reb00t> have a good one
<mes> you are rolling a joint?
<mes> i thought you were at work?
<Havokmon> Ok, I think I got it.
<Havokmon> Setup an SMTP Connector on the primary IP to relay the domain in question
<Havokmon> Setup a Virutal server on a secondary IP with no restrictions that should deliver to hosted domains by default
<Havokmon> The secondary IP would only receive from the qmail box. The primary IP would send to the qmail box.
<Havokmon> I think that'll work.
<Havokmon> Sound viable?
<mes> sure
<Havokmon> woo hoo!
<Havokmon> :P
<mes> easy now shooter
<Adonis> yawn
<Havokmon> lol
<Havokmon> Thanks for the help.. later all
<Adonis> just use us and leave
<Whitor> hi
<Drakh> so I should be going live with our exchagne server tonight
<Drakh> wish me luck ;p
<metabolik> good luck
<else> Hello, I need some help. I have exchange running and the Domain controller exchange was pointing to went down, now it won't start the Microsoft Exchange System Attendent
<else> any ideas?..I guess I have to point it to the other Domain controller, but how?
<DortoH> you only had one domain controller?
<else> I have 2
<DortoH> transfer the FSMO roles, and make the other DC a GC
<else> FSMO roles? how do I transfer those, and what is a GC sir?
<J2k^^> you need to bring the bad controller online
<J2k^^> then transfer to the second DC
<else> disks failed
<J2k^^> raid 5?
<else> i can't bring the bad one online
<else> yeah
<else> raid 5
<J2k^^> replace the drive
<J2k^^> and bring it back on line
<else> somehow it seems the logical drives
<else> can't be seen
<else> 2 of the 3 can't be seen
<J2k^^> it has to be online in order to do the transfer
<else> it may have been that the admin who quit last friday never looked at it and 1 drive may have been bad
<else> oh yikes
<else> yeah, 2 drives failed, not sure what to do
<DortoH> you can seieze the roles, no need to save the old DC
<else> i thought it was the controller, and I replaced it
<else> but still it shows 2 drives as bad
<else> would recreating hardware based RAid 5 logical volumes w/o format lose data?
<else> it shouldn't right?
<DortoH> http://thelazyadmin.com/index.php?/archives/141-FSMO-Roles.html
<DortoH> http://thelazyadmin.com/index.php?/archives/2-Removing-a-Failed-DC-from-Active-Directory.html
<DortoH> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/255504
<else> thanks man
<DortoH> no prob
<else> so I must get the DC that died
<DortoH> let the old DC be dead for now, make the other DC a GC, sieze the FSMO roles and all should be good
<else> somehow online?
<else> sieze it u mean by just getting to the data on the disk?
<DortoH> then repair and reformat/reinstall the OS and make it a new DC
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