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<mdasilva_> has anyone used metaedit before?
<pukey> I think the solution to Event ID 1 is to turn your machine of and on rapidly until it stops beeping
<cyberfrg> lol
<mdasilva_> cyberfrg corrupt metabase
<mdasilva_> ...
<cyberfrg> mdasilva_: no f-ing idea
<cyberfrg> did you do the manual restore
<mdasilva_> no i have to move some virtual smtp servers around, then some mailboxes before i fiddle with the metabase
<mdasilva_> i could be asking for alot more problems otherwise
<Envador> so on windows server 2003, local policy overrides domain policy?
<cyberfrg> no
<Envador> hmm
<Envador> i have a server that's joined a domain
<mdasilva_> i had that too
<Envador> in the Local Security Settings of that server "Allow lo on through Terminal Services" is set for Administrators, Remote Desktop Users. However, I'm not a local user on that server. I can't log on to that server unless i use the Administrator login for the domain. Even though my personal username has administrative rights.
<Envador> lemme add my personal username as a member of the domain admins and see what happens
<cyberfrg> that means only local administers and remote desktop users ... you can modify the LSP and add domain admins/domain users there
<cyberfrg> that should work
<Envador> mmm yeah that did it
<Envador> that was a bunch of a hoopla for a whole lotta nuthin'
<cyberfrg> hehe
<Envador> hehehe
<cyberfrg> RDP/TS permissions are stuipd
<cyberfrg> stupid
<Envador> that too :)
<mdasilva_> adaptec 2230slp or lsi megaraid 320-2e ?
<mdasilva_> who wins
<cyberfrg> i do
<Envador> no, i do
<mdasilva_> humm..
<Envador> the point is..
<Envador> they're close enough? :)
<mdasilva_> kinda
<mdasilva_> small tradeoffs
<mdasilva_> i guess the one with better warranty would be best.. unless it breaks all the time
<Envador> i don't deal hands-on with hardware anymore now that we've been managed hosting for almost 2 years now
<Envador> i kind of miss it
<mdasilva_> then again.. the other preforms better with our applications
<mdasilva_> we have a bit of both
<mdasilva_> the half thats here.. is configured like ****
<mdasilva_> who do you guys host with?
<Envador> the planet
<mdasilva_> they good?
<cyberfrg> i hear frontbridge is going to start doing some interesting exchange hosting things
<Envador> the 24/7techs aren't very knowledgeable... but the managed services team is good.
<mdasilva_> we use mci and rackspace
<Envador> mci has managed hosting?
<mdasilva_> rackspace is amazing.. mci = complete ****
<mdasilva_> yeah they used to be digex
<Envador> ah ok.
<mdasilva_> mci is the worst
<Envador> i've heard good things about rackspace.
<mdasilva_> they are fast as hell in tech responses
<cyberfrg> what kind of performance hits do you take
<Envador> we dish out $7800/month for 9 servers
<mdasilva_> i dont deal with money
<mdasilva_> just the bs
<Envador> i don't either, but i'm just nosey
<Envador> <-- nosey parker
<mdasilva_> i think mci uses sticky notes to p*** services requests along
<Envador> HAHAHA
<mdasilva_> have you guys tried panda antivirus for exchange?
<Envador> well the planet isn't much better
<mdasilva_> ive had all 3 urget service requests deal within 15 minutes of reporting to rackspace
<mdasilva_> mci ... 2 1/2 hours
<Envador> hmm well i guess the planet is good about response then
<Envador> it's usually within 5 minutes
<mdasilva_> wow.. thats amazing
<mdasilva_> 5 minutes from when u submit the problem?
<Envador> but i'll ask things like, "how ddid the trojan get on the machine? when was the first instance detected? Aren't we antivirus protected?"
<Envador> and their answer will be, "the server is rebooted and working"
<mdasilva_> lol
<pukey> trojan got on your machine because you are a gullible dumb***
<pukey> just tell him the truth
<Envador> :P
<pukey> I dont know how it got on your computer. I am not the end user of your computer.
<pukey> why dont you ask the end user of the computer
<pukey> oh? you are the end user?
<pukey> then ask yourself
<mdasilva_> lol
<Envador> it was one of our less-used servers
<Envador> i suspected it was an unpatched SQL service
<mdasilva_> pukey works for planet
<pukey> oh the server got a trojan?
<Envador> but they went through and eradicated everything, touched all the files, redid all the file dates
<Envador> so much for backtracking :(
<pukey> it was a server?
<mes> so mutch for patching/virus protection
<mes> and i just spelled mutch with a t
<mes> thats aweosme
<pukey> yer on crack
<pukey> CRACK I SAY
<mdasilva_> have you guys deleted a virtual smtp server through the metaedit before?
<Envador> yeah so much for protection
<Envador> what can i say, at envador's work, quality is job one.
<Envador> i'm just now cleaning up servers. the guy before didn't know what he was doing
<Envador> he installed OFFICE on the servers because he wanted the server to send out emails!
<mes> lol
<Envador> *sigh*
<mdasilva_> nice
<Envador> and our sql active/p***ive cluster ... the p***ive node doesn't work
<mes> format the p***ive box
<mes> use it for personal use
<Envador> the cluster service is able to hand off the ownership of the service to server02, and on server02 sql server starts and looks fine, but the ports don't respond
<Envador> mes, no need
<mdasilva_> yeah i can use a ftp site on your server
<Envador> there are TWO boxes unused
<mdasilva_> ftp and game serv pls
<Envador> they were clustered sql server pair Try #1
<Envador> they just sit there, powered on.
<Envador> i'm cleaning them up now.
<Envador> (just installed SP1 on them heh heh heh. quality is job one)
<mdasilva_> for a frontend exchange server that has an smtp server on it...
<mdasilva_> does a store need to be mounted?
<mdasilva_> or just exist?
<Drakh> quick
<Drakh> someone hold me!
<mdasilva_> uhoh
<mdasilva_> one of my mailbox stores is missing the systemmailbox...
<mdasilva_> this cannot be a preformance booster...
<mdasilva_> any way to restore the systemmailbox of a store?
<Drakh> Yessss
<Drakh> say
<Drakh> a folder in my inbox just dissapeared yesturday :/
<Drakh> it's not in deleted items or the recovery area
<Adonis> I like to call it veritas
<mes> watch those mouse clicks!
<mdasilva_> ...
<mdasilva_> ack..
<mdasilva_> wtf
<Drakh> hmm
<Drakh> anyone know how I can get it back besides restoring it from backup
<mdasilva_> what happens when there isnt a sytemmailbox account for a exchange server?
<DortoH> The system mailbox is
<DortoH> used for replication messages, internal processing, etc.
<Envador> i need to colocate 3 servers in OC
<mdasilva_> hum..
<Envador> any suggestions?
<mdasilva_> well one server does not have a systemmailbox
<mdasilva_> its totally gone.. and im experiencing message delivery problems from that server to my other exchange boxes.. although it can successfully deliver mail to external domains
<Hobart> quick question, I'm remotely restarting a server with Exchange on it with "shutdown" on the command line, it's taking over 10 minutes to shut down ... in the future, I think it will shutdown faster if I stop certain Exchange services first?
<mdasilva_> probably depends on why its taking 10 minutes to shut down
<Hobart> Unfortunately all of the command line process listing tools are dependant on the WMI or somesuch
<Hobart> So I can see it's stopped the SMTP / imap services, and IIS, but can't see what's hanging it. :\
<mdasilva_> yeah that ****s
<rworks> Hobart: Ask in #windows.
<rworks> :)
<rworks> Hobart: Let me guess, the Exchange server is also a domain controller, right?
<Hobart> yep.
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