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<Sham> yeah...but there's an astrisk on that one...Joey Harrington should have won it that year
<rep-> where is jason white now though Sham
<rep-> thats the question
<Sham> NFL glory doesnt mean he wasnt a great college QB
<Sham> Jason White = 2 NC games
<techrush> 2 losses
<NoZ> 6 knee operations
<Sham> 2 huge losses
<Sham> but still
<techrush> not to mention his choke in the big 12 title game
<rep-> only 6?
<Sham> he got there
<techrush> that was -after- he got the heisman
<techrush> he blew all the big games
<techrush> haha
<Sham> so did Peyton manning
<Sham> but people arent giving him ****
<techrush> cuz hes awesome in the NFL
<Sham> Peyton Manning couldnt beat Florida if his life depended on it
<techrush> if he never had an nfl career
<techrush> people would say the same ****
<Sham> I dont think he could beat a Spurrier lead Gators team with the Colts
<techrush> haha
<techrush> prolly not
<techrush> :/
<Sham> I wanna argue UT v. VT though
<techrush> oh no
<Sham> how can you say Texas has a better D
<techrush> just get fusQer
<Sham> I meant with intellagint people
<Sham> HAHA
<Rodney_> they held the #1 offensive team in the nation to what 17 points?
<Sham> I cant spell for ****
<Sham> please
<Sham> Texas Tech is a joke
<NoZ> !addquote <Sham> I meant with intellagint people
<Sham> they play ****ing high school teams, Sam Houston St
<Sham> get the **** outta here w/that one
<Sham> lol
<Sham> nice
<Sham> no slack
<NoZ> [00:46] -T_Suggs- Added Quote #268: "<Sham> I meant with intellagint people"
<NoZ> w00
<Sham> lol...jack***
<Sham> VT has not allowed more than 17 points to any team all year
<Sham> lead the nation in points allowed per game
<Sham> 2nd in total D, to the team we play next week
<Balistyx> they haven't played anyone good, that's why
<Sham> we just beat BC tonight
<Rodney_> bc is the only decent team vt has played
<Sham> lol
<Sham> ACC is footballs toughest confrence
<Sham> check the Saragin ratings
<Sham> top to bottom
<bastille> that may be
<Balistyx> BIG 10 is
<Sham> lol
<bastille> VT hasnt played Miami yet
<Sham> weak 11
<bastille> VT wont win out
<Balistyx> someone had the rankings for each conference
<bastille> they wont be undefeated
<Sham> VT has won 7 outta 10 from Miami
<Balistyx> big 10 was #1
<Sham> no
<Rodney_> vt's toughest game is against a beaten miami
<Sham> Miami/FSU > Ohio State
<NoZ> both of them together? yea maybe
<Sham> hell no
<rep-> BC hasn't played anyone
<rep-> only two decent teams, they've lost to
<Sham> Florida State
<Sham> Virginia...
<Sham> even though they lost to North Carolina...UVA is a good team
<rep-> yeah, so they ****ed to two decent teams
<Sham> thier QB got hurt, and they couldnt move the ball
<Sham> Boston College would win the Big 10
<NoZ> injuries are a part of the game.. if you are so good then you should have depth
<rep-> so basically, VT has played one team, BC, who has played nobody, and when they did play someone, lost.
<Sham> I can say the exact same about texas
<rep-> Boston College would not win the Big 10
<rep-> big 10 is the strongest all around.
<Sham> they havent played anyone...cept Ohio State...who lost to Penn State
<NoZ> sham: except you are the one trying to argue that VT is #2 and we arent
<Sham> Big 10 is middle of the pack
<rep-> it's extremely hard to go undefeated in it
<rep-> the thing is, Big 10 doesn't have any great teams right now
<Sham> NoZ...VT plays a harder scheduale than Texas and USC
<Sham> toughest confrence in football
<rep-> but 8/11 of them could beat a top 15 team
<rep-> on any given saturday
<Sham> played West VA in morgan town...and crushed them
<NoZ> well until they get past it then they shouldnt be worrying about the BCS
<rep-> EIGHT of them
<rep-> you can't say that about any other conference, not even close.
<Sham> dude, Big 10 ****s
<Sham> you gotta be kidding me
<Sham> match up your top 4 teams v. the SEC/ACC/Pac10
<Sham> and tell me who would win
<NoZ> sec is weak
<rep-> match up every team in the conference
<rep-> vs any other conference
<Balistyx> big 10 #1
<rep-> they would be at least 3 more wins than any other conference
<Balistyx> someone had the link to it earlier
<rep-> guranteed
<NoZ> bama ****s.. lsu ****s.. florida ****s.. tenn ****s.. georgia ****s without shockley
<Sham> lol...homers hardcore
<rep-> you are the homer who thinks VT has a hard schedule
<Sham> I'll take the ACC over Big10
<Sham> Miami/FSU/BC/UVA in the final month
<Sham> that doesnt seem rough to anyone else
<rep-> As I said, the Big 10 may not have any top teams this year
<NoZ> if they were good yea
<rep-> but each and every one of them can play hard
<Rodney_> bc and uva = crap
<canhope> rep: But never count on Michigan State to win more than one big game a year. :-(
<rep-> VT could potentially lose to 8 of the big 10 teams.
<Balistyx> there's a good chance that big 10 will have 7 teams in bowl games this season
<rep-> VT could potentially lose to maybe 3 of the big 10 teams
<Sham> lol
<rep-> err
<Sham> get the **** outta here
<rep-> maybe 3 of the ACC teams
<Sham> VT would crush everyone...Ohio State would be the only challenge
<rep-> maybe 3 is generous too.
<Sham> and OSU is very overrated
<canhope> Michigan State's done, they've already collapsed.
<Sham> OSU = Kansas ST teams of the late 90's...lots of talent, but seems to **** itself on a consistent basis
<rep-> who has a prayer of beating VT? FSU, MIami and BC? WHo else in that ocnference is worth a **** at all?
<bastille> http://www.livejournal.com/community/tws_support/347374.html
<Sham> UVA/Maryland are both solid teams
<rep-> you just keep telling yourself that Sham
<Sham> GA Tech fell apart so they = Michigan ST
<Sham> NCST has a top 10 D, but offense is weak
<Sham> just match em up
<Sham> take the worst three big 10 teams
<Sonic8ed> rofl holy ****
<Sonic8ed> some guy nailed a 50 yd field goal for 1 mill $
<rep-> thats pretty impressive.
<NoZ> cowboys need to sign his *** up
<Sonic8ed> yea for just some dood off the street
<Sham> It was off a tee though wasnt it
<rep-> most people wouldn't makea 20 yarder.
<Balistyx> Sonic8ed, didn't you say that earlier?
<Rodney_> lol i was abotu to say that noz
<Sonic8ed> lol
<canhope> How? Was he a soccer player or something?
<Sonic8ed> bali nope u are mistaken son
<canhope> There is no way an ordinary person off the street can hit a 50 yarder.


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