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<top^> Alon: don't worry about things you know jack about
<teek> that's only cause u dont know the *****
<jstepka-w> dandiep++
<teek> clueless--
<teek> :)
<CnfsdKid> its got to have neat things in it though. i bet its easy to work with.
<CnfsdKid> almost as easy as Number-6 on dollar beer night.
<Number-6> who needs beer
<teek> i dont
<gose> oracle++
<teek> gose++
<teek> gose you gone yet?
<gose> nah
<teek> tf.....
<teek> whats up
<gose> I was really gone yesterday though
<teek> haha
<teek> i bet
<gose> those ****ing contractors know how to drink
<teek> they are bayer certified
<gose> its almost 2130 and Im still hung iver
<mele> whats the name of the method used to locate and extract text from an image?
<jstepka-w> gose++
<jstepka-w> i almost p***ed out pissing last night
<jstepka-w> i just remember thinking, can we please go home soon
<mele> OCR
<MaXXeL> anyone uses quickserver? i need a hint or two on clientbinaryhandler
<CnfsdKid> uhg i hate digging through old asp crap at work.
<CnfsdKid> its like putting your hand down a dead guy's throat because he swallowed something you need.
<ufc> CnfsdKid: ugh, that's horrible, but accurate
<CnfsdKid> ufc: frames frames everywhere =\
<ufc> aw
<ufc> I still don't know wtf to do about this stupid dependency issue :(
<shenky> on linux?
<ufc> no
<ufc> well, yes, but that's not what I mean
<ufc> I have an ejb-jar that depends on velocity-dep.jar to do some template rendering for emails, and I can't find a way to make velocity-dep.jar available to the ejb-jar
<ufc> if I put it in orion/lib, it works, but all my velocity front end stuff in wars breaks
<ian> Yeah, because it depends on stuff being in the appserver cl***loader
<ufc> ian: is there a reasonable solution to this?
<ufc> I tried putting the velocity-dep.jar in the ejb-jar and adding a Cl***-Path line to the manifest, but that didn't work
<dough> ive created a standalone java desktop app, that will be supported for winxp and mac os x. is there a preferred way to package the software into an installer, and create patches for it when updates are required? im using install4j right now...it creates an executables for the program..but patching has been problematic..
<jstepka-w> ufc: you can set the cl*** path via a manifest file for the jar
<jstepka-w> ufc: it ****s, but that's what you have to do
<ufc> jstepka-w: I tried that, and wasn't able to make it happen
<ufc> jstepka-w: I put velocity-dep.jar in the root of the ejb-jar, and ant's adding "Cl***-Path: velocity-dep.jar" to the manifest of that jar
<ufc> is that the right way to go about it?
<ufc> the irritating thing is, I don't get Cl***NotFound exceptions or anything, just the cl*** that uses velocity fails silently
<ufc> but if I put the velocity-dep.jar in orion/lib, it works properly
<dough> why do you guys use to distribute/update your java app? installanywhere?
<dough> what*
<jstepka-w> they're web apps
<waz> JWS
<jjava> JWS is an application-deployment technology that empowers users to download and launch applications without going through complicated installation procedures. See http://java.sun.com/features/2001/09/webstart.html for more information.
<jstepka-w> ftp them to the server
<Obeliks> is a JWS app very different from a jar with a manifest file? :)
<Obeliks> URL is wrong btw
<jstepka-w> jjava forget jwt
<jstepka-w> jjava forget jws
<jjava> I forgot jwt
<jjava> I forgot jws
<ufc> jstepka-w: no suggestions for me? :/
<jstepka-w> JWS is http://java.sun.com/products/javawebstart/
<jstepka-w> JWS
<jjava> JWS is an application-deployment technology that empowers users to download and launch applications without going through complicated installation procedures. See http://java.sun.com/features/2001/09/webstart.html for more information.
<jstepka-w> ack
<jstepka-w> jjava forget JWS
<jjava> I forgot JWS
<jstepka-w> JWS is http://java.sun.com/products/javawebstart/
<jstepka-w> JWS
<jjava> JWS is http://java.sun.com/products/javawebstart/
<kinabalu> jstepka-w: stupid thing is case sensitive
<Obeliks> :(
<CnfsdKid> thats kinda ridiculous that its case sensitive one way and not the other.
<Obeliks> jws
<Obeliks> what do you mean?
<CnfsdKid> oh nevermind. i thought it was case insensitive to trigger but for deletion it was case sensitive.
<teek> hm
<jstepka-w> ufc: not really, keep trying the manifest stuff
<jstepka-w> http://www.team4news.com/Global/story.asp?S=4029330&nav=0w0v
<dough> i dont think i can use java web start..something along the lines of InstallShield + Windows update for updates....
<ldam> The Bush White House today announced that it is changing its emblem from an Eagle to a CONDOM because it more accurately reflects the President's political stance. A condom allows for inflation, halts production, destroys the next generation, and protects contributors while giving you a sense of security while you're actually being screwed.
<pezhedgod> ta-dum!
<GnarlyBob> stock RIM
<GnarlyBob> stock RIMM
<jjava> RIMM was last seen trading at 57.82, which is 0.42 higher than the previous close of 57.4 on a volume of 15,900,465.
<ufc> ok wtf
<ufc> javax.naming.NamingException: Not in an application scope - start Orion with the -userThreads switch if using user-created threads
<gose> confession
<jjava> Rumour has it that GnarlyBob often says 'I think I jerk off too much, I do it at least 2 times a day, if not more. Sometimes I even used to turn down a blowjob from my girlfriend cuz I'd rather go home and jerk off'
<ufc> but I DO start it with -userThreads
<ufc> :(
<jstepka-w> confession
<jjava> dough: Why must you always say 'i do my eyebrows. im also a man.' to poor mele?
<jstepka-w> i do my eyebrows
<jstepka-w> but i'm gay
<jstepka-w> so ya know
<mele> thats hot
<GnarlyBob> define "do"
<jjava> "do": make: engage in; "make love, not war"; "make an effort"; "do research"; "do nothing"; "make revolution" perform: carry out or perform an action; "John did the painting, the weeding, and he cleaned out the gutters"; "the skater executed a triple pirouette"; "she did a little dance" get (something) done; "I did my job" proceed or get along; "How is she doing in her new job?"; "How are you making out in graduate school?"; "He's
<GnarlyBob> I tried having *** with my eyebrows too
<GnarlyBob> best I could get is a little self-bukkake
<mele> still couldn't get any :)
<jstepka-w> to be honest, i have a woman to my eyebrows
<cycl0ne> jstepka-w: What's the URL?
<teek> orion--
<GnarlyBob> I shave mine off
<gose> topkarma
<jjava> The top ten karma winners are: joeblowgt(903790), vagina(394), tubgirl(214), jjava(213), gnarlybob(114), mxv(103), jwzrd(95), ordain(86), gose(65), and fate(56). May their lives be filled with sunlight and pink stuff.
<gose> bottomkarma
<jjava> The bottom ten karma losers are: meeper(-824), jesus(-79), maven(-50), php(-48), hibernate(-47), spiffster(-45), bush(-33), monogamy(-25), idea977(-23), and struts(-17). May they burn forever in the pits of #java.
<jstepka-w> cycl0ne: http://www.povpod.com/main.php
<gose> monogamy--
<cycl0ne> jstepka-w: LOL
<teek> struts--
<GnarlyBob> jstepka++
<pr3d4t0r> Greetings.
<cycl0ne> good day pr3d4t0r
<jstepka-w> pr3d4t0r: you need to try that povpod site
<pr3d4t0r> jstepka-w: Huh?
<pr3d4t0r> jstepka-w: Ah.
<pr3d4t0r> Lemme se...
<mele> pr3d4t0r: python is cool
<mele> remember that
<pr3d4t0r> jstepka-w! Nice.
<pr3d4t0r> mele: Python is nice, but Ruby is nicer.
<mele> No way
<pr3d4t0r> mele: Ruby has an elegant design.
<synic> ruby++
<mele> python has a lotof cool **** built in to it
<mele> htmllib++
<pr3d4t0r> waz: Ping..
<GnarlyBob> yeah, ruby has rails
<mele> depends on what your doing
<GnarlyBob> python doesn't have anything nearly as cool as rails!
<pr3d4t0r> waz: I have all the infos about data center structure that you wanted to discuss.
<pr3d4t0r> GnarlyBob: I saw N***ja Kinsky wrapped in a python once. That's way cooler than rails...
<GnarlyBob> pr3d4t0r: I've seen that too!
<pr3d4t0r> GnarlyBob: Unless, of course, I'm giving her my rail.
<GnarlyBob> My dad used to have that on a poster
<pr3d4t0r> Nat***ja++
<meeper> ruby doesn't have an elegant design
<meeper> the language is a bunch of one-offs and awful syntax
<GnarlyBob> neither does life
<gose> life--
<GnarlyBob> life++
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