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<GnarlyBob> life++
<meeper> python is even worse and of course perl is the worst. hackers need to stop designing languages
<ian> confession
<jjava> For someone who once said 'i scratched my dads car with my belt when walking past it and blamed it on the locals', mele is surprisingly unashamed.
<ian> the locals
<ian> confession
<GnarlyBob> ahahaha
<jjava> For someone who once said 'i really like older women, just the experience and all the things i could learn, it's a total turn on.', gose is surprisingly unashamed.
<ian> confession
<jjava> gose recently told his boss 'I once had *** with a my roommate's dog and a bitch at the same time, but it turned out they were both bitches-when I saw the excited look on both of their puppy faces.'
<GnarlyBob> gose++
<gose> yeah, it was kinda fun
<GnarlyBob> he thought the roommate's dog was male at first
<ian> confession
<jjava> For someone who once said 'i like ketchup, more than anyone could ever know.....like ***ually', mele is surprisingly unashamed.
<FreddieD> i dont want to be at work today..
<ian> haha
<FreddieD> can someone entertain me
<GnarlyBob> FreddieD: that link might keep you entertained
<GnarlyBob> http://www.povpod.com/main.php
<Number-6> bagina
<jjava> Nice bagina!
<GnarlyBob> (usual rules about clicking links in irc while at work apply)
<GnarlyBob> slang little man in the boat
<jjava> little man in the boat (1 of 3): slang for clitoris... a little man sailing the big vagina sea
<GnarlyBob> sea of vagina++
<GnarlyBob> slang little man in the boat 2
<jjava> little man in the boat (2 of 3): A clitoris. It looks like a little man in a boat. AKA little boy in the boat
<GnarlyBob> slang little man in the boat 3
<jjava> little man in the boat (3 of 3): a woman's clitoris, otherwise known as the [moan button]
<Number-6> error.
<GnarlyBob> it's not just a button.
<GnarlyBob> it has a shaft much like a small penis, except that it is mostly inside.
<GnarlyBob> and that shaft appreciates stimulation too.
<meeper> GnarlyBob: thanks for clearing that up
<GnarlyBob> jstepka++
<jstepka-w> ?
<GnarlyBob> povpod.com
<GnarlyBob> jstepka++
<MrPrimate> do you guys know if Java 1.4 has any support for a compressed audio format (mp3?)
<Number-6> google jdk 1.4 mp3
<jjava> You can find more info about jdk 1.4 mp3 at "http://builder.com.com/5100-6370-5031704.html"; (JDK 1.4 lets you '***ert' yourself when you debug)
<Number-6> hmm. perhaps not
<Number-6> google java 1.4 mp3
<jjava> You can find more info about java 1.4 mp3 at "http://www.mac-systems.de/jampaktuell_en.htm"; (mac-systems.de - planets beyond)
<joeblowgt> google java mp3 api
<jjava> You can find more info about java mp3 api at "http://java.about.com/od/gamegraphicsprogramming/"; (Java Game/Multimedia Programming)
<Number-6> good call
<MrPrimate> it's unfortunate that it isn't built in,
<talios> why?
<MrPrimate> if I want to save space in my app from the wav files, now I have to include some mp3 library
<talios> its not built in to any other language
<talios> I uved the javalayer library before and that worked fine.
<MrPrimate> but that balance out so I might as well use wav
<MrPrimate> javalayer library for mp3 playing? is it small ?
<MrPrimate> if I make users download JMF I should just give them wav files instead, it's probably smaller
<MrPrimate> joeblowgt, it seems like it could be lightweight enough and useful, Java is supposed to allow us to distribute compact applications
<talios> MrPrimate, yep - was quite small from memory
<MrPrimate> talios, wow, it's extaordinarily tiny, that's awesome, thanks
<joeblowgt> you can't distribute an extra jar in your app?
<MrPrimate> joeblowgt, I didn't want to have to distribute JMF, but this tiny jlayer thing is perfect,
<MrPrimate> joeblowgt, I have to limit this app to a small size
<joeblowgt> I don't see why sun doesn't include commons-* in the jdk...
<Number-6> hahahahahaha
<joeblowgt> I don't see why sun doesn't include dom4j in the jdk...
<sorrow> what is the best way to store (uploaded/edited config files) in a webapp?
<joeblowgt> I don't see why sun doesn't include ant in the jdk...
<MrPrimate> oh come on
<MrPrimate> those are all gigantic libraries
<joeblowgt> and mp3 api should be?
<MrPrimate> mp3 support can be a tiny part of api
<Number-6> joeblowgt: MrPrimate is still having trouble seeing the folly of his ways.
<joeblowgt> so? where does it end?
<joeblowgt> how about an mpeg4 codec?
<Number-6> WMA too!
<MrPrimate> because almost every app that uses sound would benefit from mp3 or some compressed format
<Number-6> and how many apps use sound
<MrPrimate> how can you have an applet or application that is small if it has sound
<joeblowgt> I've never written a single app that uses sound
<MrPrimate> when you are using raw wave files
<Number-6> relative to how many apps are there
<MrPrimate> they support ****ing JPEG and PNG, what's wrong with MP3 or such
<MrPrimate> do you think they should only support BMP format for pictures?
<MrPrimate> let's do that, let's all use BMP, it's a waste to have this code for loading GIF files
<joeblowgt> um, icons are pretty useful
<Number-6> i bet a lot more apps use images than use sounsd.
<MrPrimate> yeah, but a lot of apps use sound.... enough to merit what seems like a tiny bit of work for Sun
<xd> think of the blind people!! they need feedback too!!
<Number-6> mind you, my apps never use images.
<Number-6> but i don't write GUIs
<joeblowgt> nor mine
<joeblowgt> but MrPrimate thinks they all should
<joeblowgt> and that's good enough for me
<Number-6> i'm glad MrPrimate is making our decisions for us.
<joeblowgt> after all, it's such a bitch to include a 3rd party jar in your app
<sorrow> actually it would be cool that java plays "DOH!" on each println to the error stream
<joeblowgt> all that nasty cl***path stuff
<Number-6> joeblowgt: having to do stuff, press keys
<MrPrimate> hey, I just think it's a good idea, they's my opinion, you guys can be ***holes, but I respect that you have a differing opinion
<joeblowgt> client hears nothing, but the server room is filled with "DOH!" 24x7
<Number-6> joeblowgt: really every jar file ever made should be part of the base API
<MrPrimate> I think that perhaps they would only have bitmap support if you guys did the awt api
<joeblowgt> "you guys can be ***holes, but I respect that you have a differing opinion"
<ufc> if velocity were part of the jdk, then I wouldn't be having these problems!
<joeblowgt> you have an interesting definition of "respect"
<MrPrimate> joeblowgt, because I am not the one attacking you
<MrPrimate> I am just trying to defend myself
<joeblowgt> I'm attacking you?
<MrPrimate> basically, yes
<joeblowgt> I'm voicing my opinion that you are stupid
<joeblowgt> how is that attacking you?
<Number-6> i'm concurring with that opinion.
<joeblowgt> oh, wait
<MrPrimate> oh, and that's the stupidest idea ever, to include MP3 format support in Java API,
<MrPrimate> wait until they do it and then you'll feel like the stupid one
<MrPrimate> because it makes perfect sense
<xd> mebbe apache will include commons-* into harmony and we could all rest easy
<Number-6> god i was getting tired of his whining.
<Number-6> 718 MrPrimate ~MrPrimate@c-67-161-123-160.hsd1.wa.comcast.net : is messaging you, and you have umode +g.
<Number-6> i love that.
<Number-6> :D
<joeblowgt> for god's sake, Swing still isn't in the standard API and he thinks mp3 will be added?
<ufc> wonder if he bothered to stop to think whether there might be legal reasons not to include mp3 in the core api
<joeblowgt> how about adding a ****ing base64 codec?
<Number-6> ufc: i don't think he was doing much thinking at all.
<ufc> touche
<Number-6> joeblowgt: you can always cheat and use the com.sun thing.
<Number-6> even though that's horrible and wrong.
<joeblowgt> we do
<Number-6> i do too.
<joeblowgt> and we found that out too
<Number-6> even though it's horrible and wrong.
<Number-6> not guaranteed to be there for any other JVM
<bourbaki> it there for a reason
<Number-6> it's there for Sun stuff to use.
<joeblowgt> what does mode +g do?
<Number-6> umode +g shuts off private messages to you.
<Number-6> people get a message back from the server that you're not accepting private messages.
<joeblowgt> one day I'll actually read about the irc thing
<Number-6> it's useful when someone is using a botnet to flood you or the like.
<ufc> joeblowgt: so where do you work?
<Number-6> it's also fun to switch on when you're kicking a retard.
<joeblowgt> in alpharetta
<joeblowgt> how do I turn on +g?
<joeblowgt> stupid bitchx
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