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<MXV> idiot
<jjava> idiot is http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~raza/idiot.jpg
<MXV> foer faen
<HexDump> hi all!
<shaneC> ..bcos egold is such a ***** to get besides account transfer between egold accounts :P
<shaneC> Could someone please donate link $1 USD of e-gold to 2516772, I`m willing to help with any problem in advance for this...
<CyTG> wonder if anyone actually donates to that account!!
<harvester> http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/69de/
<GnarlyBob> slang nature's rubiks cube
<Huvet> what is the prefered way to tokenize a file in java 1.4? I'm trying with new StreamTokenizer(new FileInputStream(file)) and get a deprecated warning
<GnarlyBob> Huvet: have you looked at the API docs for StreamTokenizer?
<Huvet> yes, they suggest new BufferedReader(new InputStreamReader(is));
<Huvet> but that doesn't take a file
<Huvet> aha! InputStreamReader does take an inputstream
<calavera> Buenos dias, I have a question
<Huvet> thanks, worked :)
<calavera> How can I make a random number, let's say on the interval [1,9], except the number, let say 5?
<Huvet> calavera: check for that number and if it occure pick a new random number
<Huvet> while (num = 5) random = Math.random...
<calavera> Yes, I see. Thank you, muchas gracias
<roots-> yukk
<roots-> just add 1 if number is >= 5
<roots-> getting a new random is very ungaussian
<Obeliks> ah
<Obeliks> missed the >
<Obeliks> was just wondering if that wouldn't screw up the distribution even more...
<Obeliks> but with >= it seems fine though...
<Obeliks> just makes a gap in the middle ;)
<Huvet> roots-: smart move, I'll remember that
<Huvet> calavera: did you notice?
<calavera> Yes, I did
<calavera> I'll check it out
<HexDump> una cosilla, estoy compilando unos fuentes y me dice que hay cosillas "deprecated" o no seguras. Dice que ponga -Xlint:unchecked en la linea de comandso para mas info, lo pongo pero me sigue saliendo lo mismo :/, como puedo obtener mas info?
<Huvet> wo, strange language... spanish?
<HexDump> ****!, sorry
<drazQ> hmm, forgot to turn on your babelfish?
<HexDump> i thought I was at the java spanish chan
<HexDump> nah
<HexDump> sorry again.
<HexDump> and yes, it's spanish
<calavera> A beautiful language!
<calavera> Spanish
<jjava> Spanish is my native language.
<calavera> Lucky you
<websherif> I`m trying to get Hibernate to work with Tapestry4. As T4 is built upon HiveMind I thought that it could be injected as some kind of hivemind service. Then I found Hivetranse that does exactly that... Now the problem is that I havn`t seen much feedback from people using hivetranse, and I would like to hear what people have to say about it (good or bad)
<boxed> why in gods name?
<websherif> boxed, are you asking me?
<boxed> yes
<boxed> why in gods name use tapestry?
<websherif> because it is a nice and powerful framework for building webapps?
<websherif> boxed, some constructive critisism please..
<boxed> use something that's not crap? look into webwork
<websherif> webwork costs money. that I don`t have.
<Epesh> tapestry isn't bad
<Epesh> websherif: it does? WHy?
<Epesh> Webwork is open source, freely downloadable
<drazQ> websherif: didn't we go through this two days ago?
<Epesh> how does it cost you money?
<websherif> maybe I am confusing it with something else. wait...
<Epesh> webobjects, perhaps
<Epesh> but webwork is just as available as tapestry is
<boxed> webobjects is free too
<Epesh> and a lot simpler
<boxed> you do have to own a mac though... but that's a one time cost of pretty much nothing now with mac minis
<websherif> why do I need to own a mac?!
<Epesh> boxed: I thought webobjects was pure java now?
<boxed> you get webobjects for free with OSX
<boxed> epesh: it is
<boxed> and the development tools are for OSX, not pure java, and they're pretty nice
<websherif> boxed, so what are the advantages of using webworks vs. Tapestry?
<websherif> have you been looking into T4. there are some nice new things there.
<Epesh> websherif: webwork isn't a compnent model rendered on web
<harvester> and what about jsf?
<Epesh> fundamental differences. However, one thing in webwork's favour is simplicity. Ask questions on webwork, sure, but th curve is shallow.
<boxed> there's no s at the end coincidentially... just "webwork", and the 1.x branch at least is small, elegant and very flexible... the 2.x branch I can't speak for
<Epesh> tapestry and JSF both require more koolaid than webwork.
<boxed> harv: JSF is bloatware
<Epesh> boxed: the 2.0 branch is very flexible, but less small :)
<Pokari> Anyone knows how to get rid of that white space around the actual HTML content in a webpage? I have a single page with a small applet in, but I can't get rid of that white space around it.
<boxed> epesh: that's bad
<ordain> Spring is a usable replacement for webwork
<boxed> pokari: #html
<harvester> there are nice components available for jsf
<ordain> (Spring is much more than that though)
<Epesh> boxed: necessary for the concept though
<Epesh> ordain: I don't think so
<harvester> and IOC is possible with managed beans
<Epesh> I think spring+webwork is a better approach
<ordain> Epesh: not usable?
<Pokari> boxed: I tried #HTML but no one is awake :)
<ordain> spring+webwork might be better yeah... but I tried just Spring for a small thing and it worked pretty well... I've not tried doing more complex things
<boxed> harv: you can also build a servlet engine inside JSF and put webwork inside that... but it's still stupid
<ordain> with Spring MVC that is
<websherif> god.. this framework hell is confusing. :/ I think I will stay with Tapestry as it seem to be powerful and quite easy to use. the spindle plugin for eclipse makes it even easier.
<Epesh> websherif: hee hee hee
<Epesh> I fully agree, though - web frameworks suffer from the tyranny of choice
<websherif> yeah choice is a frustrating thing..
<ordain> In communist China there is only one web framework
<Epesh> websherif: the ones I'd choose from, in no particular order: webwork, struts, JSF, tapestry, wicket
<websherif> then I have to choose a DB layer, and then a way to combine my framework with this layer etc. etc. etc...!
<Epesh> that doesn't mean other frameworks aren't workable or good, but that's the set I'd examine
<ordain> you'd consider JSF Epesh?
<Epesh> ordain: absolutely
<ordain> ok
<Epesh> I'd expect you to be more surprised by my inclusion of struts than JSF
<xd> springmvc works for me, and yea i was more suprised at the inclusion of struts there
<Epesh> xd: I don't think spring mvc is inviable (i.e., I do think it's viable)
<ordain> well, close call between sturst and JSF ;)
<Epesh> but I don't think it's really something I'd use in anger
<Epesh> JSF has one thing behind it: industry
<ordain> true
<Epesh> I made a bet with Doug Bateman (with real money) that JSF would die in two years, replaced by something else, but I think that the "something else" will have killed JSF to become the next official framework
<Epesh> Doug and Kito Mann both disagreed, as expected
<Epesh> but hey
<ordain> 2 years is a pretty short time...
<Epesh> I don't think JSF is all that viable.
<Epesh> besides, it wasn't quite so simple: we ave actual metrics to use, and I fully anticipate collecting my money
<ordain> ah
<ordain> fun :)
<boxed> viability has very little to do with mortality in this industry unfortunately
<Epesh> boxed: indeed. But I still made the bet.
<Epesh> I think JSF isn't as bad as it could have been, and it's certainly getting better
<Epesh> what an endorsement on my part, eh
<loke_> Epesh: I took a quick look at JSF and realised I needed ****loads of XML hackage just to get a single widget on a page
<loke_> Epesh: seriously, what were they thinking?
<Epesh> loke_: "tools!"
<loke_> Epesh: sounds great. but THERE ARE NO TOOLS!
<Epesh> That's the crux of why I think JSF has limited life
<Epesh> loke_: oh, you're very wrong
<Epesh> there are lots of good tools for JSF
<loke_> Epesh: oh yeah? where's the IDEA plugion then? :-)
<fate> Epesh: it won't be killed
<Epesh> the problem with JSFis that without tools, it's a maze of twisty little p***ages, all enough to piss you off
<Epesh> loke_: none that I know of for IDEA
<fate> Epesh: struts still exists ,and it isn't even a standard
<Epesh> but eclipse has a shedload of them
<Epesh> fate: sure
<Epesh> but Doug and I were betting on ascendancy, not necessarily "abandonment"
<Epesh> all right, field trip to go to
<Epesh> see you blokes later
<loke_> Epesh: link me to a decent JSF tool
<websherif> damn ISP..
<xd> i'd expect the ides from the major commercial vendors to have jsf support now
<xd> but all i use is IDEA so i can't back that up
<chocoman> JSF-is-here-Struts-is-dead
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