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<anyweb> with the dual core cpu it and hyperthreading it shows 4 cpus in the os
<anyweb> heh
<Phaid> I'm going up from a ti4600 so I think I'll be happy with one
<bougyman> only 1 geforce, Phaid ?
<anyweb> my ti4600's fan blew out in the end
<Phaid> bougyman yup
<Phaid> for now anyway
<bougyman> i'm waiting for the asus a6Km to be available in the states
<bougyman> that's my next computer
<bougyman> Turion ML-40 with geforce 7300
<bougyman> (laptop)
<Phaid> oh.
<Phaid> I got a laptop already and I don't need it to be particularly fast
<bougyman> i use my laptop as my primary pc
<anyweb> i lost count of laptops dekstops here
<bougyman> currently intel 3.2EE w geforce 6200
<Phaid> that a6km looks pretty sweet though
<bougyman> i love that laptop.
<bougyman> the asus, that is.
<Phaid> any idea what the price will be on that?
<Phaid> looks like well into 4K
<bougyman> nah
<bougyman> i found it for $1500 pounds
<Phaid> wow
<bougyman> that's like $2200, yeah?
<Phaid> about yeah
<Phaid> jeez that's a lot better than I'd have thought
<bougyman> asus has decent prices
<bougyman> i like the laptop we have from them thus far
<bougyman> just a centrino for the CEO, but it's a nice lil package.
<Phaid> I can't believe how much I spent on ram for this thing
<Phaid> but then the whole thing came out to $1350 so I can't really groan too much
<Phaid> but Corsair is spendy :-\
<bougyman> indeed
<bougyman> but i wouldn't have anything else, really
<bougyman> the good mushkin doesn't ****.
<bougyman> but i still prefer corsair.
<Phaid> I've had good luck with Kingston, but that's not RAM you can really push
<pup> what is command to check how many users been added when if u r root
<Phaid> I wanted ram to run at 2-2-5 and you pretty much need good Corsair for that, or something equally pricy like mushkin yeah
<GenNMX> Kingston is good to suggest if you're in retail, otherwise Corsair is fine.
<GenNMX> I think both have a lifetime warrenty.
<Phaid> yeah
<Phaid> Asus was really big on recommending Corsair for this board though
<Phaid> and really so it's double the price, that's a whopping $90 more
<Phaid> in real terms that's nothing
<GenNMX> What's wrong with Corsair Value RAM?
<Phaid> nothing as long as you run at e.g. 3-3-6
<Phaid> but I want it stable at 2-2-5 so I went ahead and splurged for some XMS
<NutterUK> hello can someone help me please?
<anyweb> ask
<anyweb> what suse issue do you have NutterUK
<GenNMX> Oh, right, you wanted 2-2-5. Why do you need it at that, anyway?
<NutterUK> just installed suse and I cant get my wireless card working, any ideas please?
<Phaid> GenNMX I'm spending all this money on all the other parts to make them slightly faster, no point building in a bottleneck
<GenNMX> Phaid: Hmmm, from my research on benchmarks, there's no much difference. Then again, I never researched what each of the three modes effects.
<GenNMX> s/no/not/
<Phaid> I mean otherwise I could just get a A64 3200+, a 6800, and 1gb of Kinsston DDR400 and be satisfied wiht that -- it would still stomp what I have now
<GenNMX> But if you're trying to push every bit of possible performance out of the machine I guess it would help...
<Phaid> yeah
<Phaid> and again it's still ridiculously cheap
<GenNMX> Still, why would someone do that? A cluster situation is so much better if you're building your own computers
<bougyman> cluster is wasteful, efficiency-wise.
<Phaid> I don't want a cluster, I want a fast PC
<GenNMX> bougyman: Depends on the tasks you need to ***ign
<Phaid> if I wanted a cluster I'd make it out of all the machines I have now
<Phaid> and then what would I do with it?
<Phaid> can't play DOOM3 on a cluster
<bougyman> doom3 is so last wednesday
<GenNMX> And I don't mean a true cluster, I just mean seperating what tasks you would be multi-tasking amongst multiple machines
<bougyman> it's quake4 now.
<Phaid> that's out now right?
<bougyman> yep
<Phaid> awesome. I'm there when the new machine is up and running
<graz> last wednesday is so last wednesday, its tuesday now
<bougyman> it's really nice
<bougyman> i like the gameplay much more than doomIII
<Phaid> cool
<GenNMX> I hear Doom4 will be out in 2 weeks. It will require a 5GHz+ processor with 6GB of RAM and 2GB of video memory.
<Phaid> heh. well, you can play DOOM3 just fine on a $500 pc
<Phaid> unfortunately not so well on 3 years ago's $2000 PC
<Phaid> and that's the problem a lot of people have with that.
<graz> I gave up on PC games when they started writing for Windows, not msdos
<Phaid> been awhile eh? :)
<GenNMX> "I spent $5000 on this PC and it won't run Doom3!!!!" "How long ago did you buy this PC?" "5 years ago."
<bougyman> i like playing games that run on linux
<graz> well I still quake sometimes :)
<Phaid> graz yah I felt that way for a long time
<bougyman> i always buy linux versions of games.
<graz> under linux, slowly :)
<korozion> ok, how do I delete a whole line in vi ?
<Phaid> korozion dd
<graz> korozion: dd
<korozion> too easy :)
<bougyman> d$
<Phaid> but games under XP run really well, ***uming you haven't messed up your machine, which most people have
<korozion> oh sure, Mr. Fancy pants :P
<bougyman> for just the contents.
<korozion> that's kinda cool
<bougyman> c$ is usually easier
<Phaid> I think my wife has rebooted her computer 3 or 4 times since August 2004 when I put it together
<bougyman> which will change the contents of a whole line
<Phaid> and she does insane stuff like run 2 copies of EQ2 at once sometimes
<graz> I dont have the hrdwre for games, its why I run linux on all my boxes
<korozion> bougyman cool, thanks
<GenNMX> I only play one PC game, World of Warcraft, and not much right now.
<korozion> I play quake3, and that's it
<korozion> the linux ver of course
<Phaid> I play a bunch of stuff, but none of it is that graphically demanding
<Phaid> the worst for that is WoW
<GenNMX> I unfortunately need XP since I'm into computer repair.
<Phaid> but yeah it will be pleasant playing WoW at 1600x1200 with AA
<Phaid> right now it's a stretch at 1024x768
<GenNMX> If I only used Linux, eventually I'd be like "wtf, why isn't ls working?!"
<Phaid> yeah I'm a put XP Pro on this new thing
<Phaid> probably won't even put linux on the new machine
<GenNMX> Phaid: It's a huge pain to setup a new machine with Linux if you haven't done it before anyway
<Phaid> I've done it more times than I can count, GenNMX
<GenNMX> Then it wouldn't be a huge pain for you ;)
<Phaid> but this box is more than adequate foe all the linux crap I do
<Phaid> for*
<Phaid> (XP 2400+ / 512mb / 200gb / ti4600)
<GenNMX> Heh, I need enough money to have two computers like that.
<Phaid> I built this one 3 years ago
<Phaid> I figure it's time to get a new one
<GenNMX> Then again, I just bought a $1600 24" LCD
<bougyman> so it's just a gaming box, Phaid ?
<Phaid> my PC's tend to last... I still have my first Athlon here next to me - Athlon 550, 384mb, 40gb hdd, Voodoo3 :)
<Phaid> bougyman more or less yeah
<bougyman> quake4 runs horrible in win on this laptop, runs smooth in linux. same with doomIII
<bougyman> i think it just barely cuts it, so the windows OS overhead takes too much from it.
<Phaid> games, burninatin' dvd's, all that crap that aren't trivial in linux
<Phaid> could be. never dried doom3 in linux
<bougyman> my wife has found K3b and she's in heaven.
<GenNMX> Phaid: My router has parts from one of my earliest computers -- AMD K6 233, 500MB HDD, 32MB RAM
<bougyman> burning cds and dvds left and right.
<Phaid> k3b looks almost as nice as dvd-shrink yeah
<neppakyo> too bad k3b does crack css
<Phaid> but it still can't rip movies and remaster them
<neppakyo> doesnt
<Phaid> no, but dvdrip does for example
<Phaid> dvdrip + k3b is a pretty good combo really
<neppakyo> i use it to copy dvd's that are DeCSS
<GenNMX> I have 6 computers in my room, why am I still so cold?
<Phaid> blah why can't it stop raining, I really don't want to have to drive to the gym
<Phaid> I've pared it down to 4 in here
<GenNMX> Well, two aren't currently running
<notq> how do you print the last exit code?
<Phaid> one of these isn't. so right now it's mine, the mrs's, and the firewall
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