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<FreeTrade> And even Hawkings work is mostly theoretical.
<ScrwySqrl> 1816? I thought that war was over in 1814?
<SweetLeaf> the only man can surive is to get into space and populate it
<|Glitch|> ScrwySqrl: That's when it began.
<ScrwySqrl> No, It began in 1812
<ScrwySqrl> Thats why its called the War of 1812
<FreeTrade> There are a few facts sorrounding theories about the universe, we do know its expanding because we can test it over and over again and we get the same result.
<FreeTrade> We also know the temperatures today are X.
<FreeTrade> We have approcimate theories of some past temperatures
<|Glitch|> ScrwySqrl: Nope, different war. The Niagra Campaign began in 1816 after the British burned Fort Niagra and destroyed several NY towns in the area.
<FreeTrade> approximate.
<|Glitch|> ScrwySqrl 1814, not 1816, my mistake.
<FreeTrade> And even bill Nye the science guy who is a preist at the alter of global warming culture, even he says we cant know anything for 50 years.
<KoooK> President Hamid Karzai on Friday condemned the reported burning and desecration of two dead Taliban fighters by American troops in southern Afghanistan, and said he had ordered an investigation
<KoooK> btw did they ever count the votes?
<FreeTrade> Anyway, I wanted to bring that up since I was watching programming on it this morning.
<Nemes> koook, lol
<ScrwySqrl> war of 1812 lasted 1812-1814, and theUS pretty much lost it... our goals (ending impressment, capturing canada) were failures, Washingtn DC was burned, and every land battle vs the brits were losses, except the one after the peace tresaty
<|Glitch|> ScrwySqrl: Since the war of 1812, the British were forcibly impressing our merchant marines into serving the British Navy. Madison had hoped to take and ransom British North America to stop the practice, since he knew the British were unbeatable at sea.
<Nemes> Koook, nice
<KoooK> nemes nice toy from a uk company
<Nemes> ya
<KoooK> Synthetic aperture sonar enables the provision of high resolution underwater pictures where the resolution is not affected by range. With conventional sidescan sonar systems, resolution reduces with range. This means that high resolution pictures can only be obtained at short ranges and with the use of high frequencies. QinetiQ's SAS can achieve 2.5cm azimuth resolution at ranges of over 200m from an underwater vehicle moving
<KoooK> Nemes: chip-o-rama http://www.qinetiq.com/home/newsroom/news_releases_homepage/2005/4th_quarter/saab_contract_signals.Par.0002.File.tmp/SAS%20%20-%20high%20res.JPG
<KoooK> :)
<Nemes> pretty trick piece of kit
<Nemes> wow
<Nemes> that looks complicated heh
<Guest71> how do i change name?
<Nemes> type /nick newnickname
<wanz> yay!
<wanz> anybody watch the colbert report?
<ScrwySqrl> yes
<wanz> funny guy
<JanetB> congratulations, you will not be the Newbie
<ScrwySqrl> very funny parody of O'Reilly
<JanetB> so.. what about this able danger
<wanz> i loved his anti fact pro heart speach
<FreeTrade> In other news, people are returning to religion a lot due to these natural disastors according to a lot of anecdotal and maybe later to be proved by polling. Some are saying we are at the end of days. I heard an intelligent priest today say that these events are natural and god is not out to punish you all, so you can relax ;)
<|Glitch|> Later.
<wanz> end of days lol
<wanz> this is a light sneeze compared to ww1 and ww2
<Nemes> Koook, --> PARIS, Oct. 22 (UPI) -- The European Space Agency has delayed the launch of a mission to Venus that was supposed to lift off Wednesday.
<JanetB> thats cause catholics do not belive in the end times
<KoooK> :(
<FreeTrade> wanz, Yeah, I am a non believer, but a lot of religious people around the world think these things (Which have happened before and much worse) are indicators of the end of time.
<Nemes> yeah i know :(
<JanetB> as... explained by protestants :)
<FreeTrade> Janet, Catholics of course believe in an end time.
<FreeTrade> Protestants are more zealous about it though.
<wanz> it would be a relatively anticlimactic end of days
<JanetB> yes, but not tribulitions
<FreeTrade> wanz, I agree...
<JanetB> we belive it will end... but not all the things that others say
<FreeTrade> I want to see the angels fly down on chariots or on horses and reap the harvest
<FreeTrade> They are after Pugsley!
<_3Josephs> none of the silly rapture stuff :-)
<FreeTrade> God gas prices are tanking.
<FreeTrade> I am paying less for gas every day.
<JanetB> I knew it was something.. rapture thats it heheh
<ScrwySqrl> the Rapture is an American heresy
<KoooK> The Ariane 5 ECA is now in the Final ***embly Building at Europe's Spaceport preparing for 9 November liftoff
<KoooK> Nemes: ECA is the biggest one afaik
<_3Josephs> the rapture is a protestant absurdity
<Nemes> i havent really looked into that side of the catholic end times, all I know is its a time of judgement, but its not ALL BAD I am ***uming that it isn't disaster for everyone.
<FreeTrade> Forbes thinks we will see 30-40 oil again. and he is the one who accurately predicted the recession while clinton was president in the August before the election.
<Nemes> Koook, yeah
<JanetB> everyday of life is a tribulation to me heheheh
<FreeTrade> Yeah but Catholics very much believe in a judgement.
<ScrwySqrl> Forbes is in dreamland
<Nemes> Koook, the rocket that took c***ini was the biggest rocket on earth, called the Titan appropiately
<JanetB> yes we belive in judgment
<JanetB> when you die you are judged :)
<FreeTrade> They add of course hades I think it is ? To their religion which is a place to judge persons who had no real opportunity to be saved, (Werent babtized etc)
<FreeTrade> Babies go there a lot ;)
<FreeTrade> In their belief.
<ScrwySqrl> for $30-40 oil again, China and India have to stop growing
<FreeTrade> No thats not true.
<JanetB> limbo
<JanetB> not hades
<_3Josephs> limbo is theological speculation
<FreeTrade> Some believe there is a 20% speculation price in oil today.
<FreeTrade> or more
<FreeTrade> Right now their is a glut of supply on the global market.
<JanetB> and we call it limbo.. cause we don't know .. but limbo is not really taught
<_3Josephs> I'd say its more like $20 speculation
<KoooK> Nemes: yeah... tho I think the russian Energya is stronger but it's ****ed now since the hangar collapsed or something during yeltsins drunken rule
<Nemes> hehe
<FreeTrade> Which is why Oil is dropping hard and gas prices are falling. I agree it will never be as low as it was 3 years ago. (I doubt it anyway, I should not say I know) I dont know.
<wanz> expensive oil is helping all the wrong people
<FreeTrade> But I do recall saying on this channel that a speculation is built into oil prices for at least a year or more.
<JanetB> wait. for years I have heard... we should be paying more.. after all in europe they pay 5.00 a gal
<FreeTrade> And its been proven at least partially in the last week or so.
<JanetB> not that we are paying more.. the libs are up in arms.. why
<JanetB> not=now
<_3Josephs> people seem amazed that demand for gas dropped in the US after labor day - even though its done that every year for decades
<FreeTrade> Janet, Democrats have wanted to tax us anywhere from 50 cents to 2 dollars extra a gallon for gas since the 1970s
<JanetB> FreeTrade.. right
<FreeTrade> Right now the federal tax is .19 cents
<FreeTrade> the state taxes vary
<_3Josephs> Gore want even higher taxes than that
<wanz> FT would that be so bad?
<TheTailor> FreeTrade, I think oil speculation is a scam, it's always one thing or another to fear and drive prices up. Tey are getting as much money as they can now, because alternatives are on the horizon.
<FreeTrade> I pay about a .50 cent tax on gas plus or minus
<JanetB> Nemes.. there are 5 leters in a gallon right?
<Nemes> something along those lines ya
<wanz> how much are paying to fight people who have profitted from our oil purchases?
<Nemes> google
<FreeTrade> Yes its bad to meddle in the market where supply and demand sets prices.
<_3Josephs> google?
<JanetB> fight people?
<FreeTrade> It causes ripples in the economy which harm people.
<Nemes> 1 US gallon = 3.7854118 litres
<Nemes> from google
<TheTailor> wanz, most of the people we are fighting don't see oil money in m***
<Nemes> :)
<JanetB> who are we fighting that we buy oil from
<_3Josephs> ahh :-) I was wondering how gas prices were going to impact google :-)
<TheTailor> JanetB, Canada!
<FreeTrade> Almost all industry is run on energy as is transportation. So anytime you have an extended period of high gas prices it will eventually slow the economy.
<JanetB> ok so 4 to make a gallon thats 4 dollars a gallon yuck
<Nemes> hehe
<Nemes> :(
<JanetB> TheTailor.. we are fighting canada??!!??
<Nemes> told u it was expensive
<Nemes> it suxors bigtime
<JanetB> why is your gas so high
<Nemes> tax
<FreeTrade> Right now the fed has been ignoring some of the gas prices as cyclical, and factors that into their conclusions about inflation. So they adjust inflation based on commodities which are not highly speculative.
<Nemes> 80% of it is tax
<KoooK> not 4
<KoooK> 6
<JanetB> I said that the other say in here and got jumped.. saying I did not know what I was talking about
<FreeTrade> Nemes, I know you guys pay a fortune in tax for gas which is why about 50% of your vehicles are deisal, correct ?
<Nemes> couldnt specualte FT
<Nemes> speculate
<Nemes> i dont know for sure
<KoooK> over 30% of new cars sold in sweden are energy-cl***ed vechicles
<wanz> Take into account what we are spending to fightw ars in the Middle East
<FreeTrade> I think thats a fact but I would have to double check, I was researching it several months ago.
<KoooK> economy?
<JanetB> thats why we have a military budget, for wars :D
<FreeTrade> Koook, there is a trend now in the US to move away from those big vehicles and SUVs.
<FreeTrade> The trend is based entirely on economics, those things guzzle gas.
<JanetB> FreeTrade.. and SHAME on those that are doing that
<FreeTrade> And people dont like to pay $50 to fill up their gas tanks.
<JanetB> giving in to demands
<KoooK> freetrade: with perks like free parking, no congestion tolls, lower taxes, cheaper fuel
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