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<US_Male> it's a cat 3 right ?
<Estuary> famine, disease, and war are a greater check on population than abortion. Many pregnancies aborted may very well have been born only to be victims of infanticide (a common human and animal behavior) anyway.
<tweek> but then I'd have to stop coding.
<RustyFord> hehhe speaking of cats
<YYZ> I guess what i'm asking is that is it ok to use abortion as a population control factor, for specific groups, like Jews or Mexicans
<RustyFord> my cat is pouting its raining outside ok... my wife has these "rabbit" slippers
<RustyFord> with little bunny heads
<Lupine> US: it is just coming off the land.. so we'll see if it intensifies
<tweek> YYZ: and for the last time, no. shut up, troll.
<RustyFord> I have panthers
<Estuary> YYZ - no that's just your idea.
<YYZ> if it's not ok, the why not, isn't it there right?
<RustyFord> they are THE most comfortable slippers you ever wore
<RustyFord> anyway
<Estuary> its not a matter of it "not being okay"
<RustyFord> my cat is sitting between the two
<RustyFord> its hilarious
<Estuary> again, your argument is nonsensical and based on a false dichotomy.
<tweek> you're talking about population control and then act as if they'd have a choice in such a situation.
<Estuary> if you'd like to discuss the issue in a rational manner, i'm all for it.
<occ> no, obviously its not, YYZ
<RustyFord> its like "panther panther cat bunny bunny"
<YYZ> what if only jews and mexicans had geographic access to abortions, would that be ok? and if not why?
<tweek> please graduate or something. then overdose on heroin.
<occ> nice STUPID QUESTION
<RustyFord> "One of these just doesn't' belong here
<RustyFord> hehhe
<Herzen> Estuary is pretty valuable for this channel
<US_Male> YYZ, abortion mostly kills Democrat abies
<tweek> if you can't afford heroin, asprin works in a pinch too.
<US_Male> babies
<YYZ> occ, why not?? if abortions are everyones right, does that mean limiting acc to the marginally is Worst than a Total ban????????
<US_Male> YYZ: except black people. Mostly white Democrats
<occ> well, what you were proposing was abortions "controlled" from some authority, with the intent of altering population ratios
<Estuary> Herzen - hah. SOMEBODY'S got to attract the wrath of the majority. : )
<occ> or did is MISREAD YOU
<Lupine> RF: shouldn't those panthers be jumping the bones of the bunny?
<YYZ> iis limited access worse than a total ban??
<Herzen> Estuary, eh its important for discourse
<occ> not really
<Herzen> gets really boring when its a circle jerk of 5 republicans talking about how much democrats ****
<YYZ> if it's not, then you can't have constititional abourtion, which allows for limits based on geography
<Estuary> herzen - agreed. one-dimensional discussion is boring.
<tweek> Herzen: really.
<Estuary> its nice to have some lively debates.
<Lupine> est: eh? a circle jerk is 2 dimensional..
<tweek> stupid **** is said when there's no opposition, anyway...
<Lupine> if it one a one-dimensional jerk.. well, one guy isn't getting satisfied
<tweek> why the **** do people do that.
<Estuary> lupine - we're workin on a spherical jerk.....it was invented in abu graib
<YYZ> the federal government cant guarantee the righ to have an abortion, unless it guraanttees everyone that right, not just jews and mexican, or califorians and not say, Nevadans
<CryArvach> question about Geico Insurance....
<Lupine> i dont' like geico on philosophical grounds
<US_Male> of course he's important -- Estuary is the guy in teh middle of the circe jerk
<Estuary> yes, the gecko is CGI.
<CryArvach> they say "Save 15% or more on car insurance"
<US_Male> he's teh "middle man" !
<tweek> the **** is YYZ even saying anymore...
<CryArvach> or issat "save 15% on Moron Car insurance?"
<Lupine> heh
<KoooK> i dunno but no one ever use the words "jews" as much as yyz
<Estuary> tweek - your guess is as good as mine.
<CryArvach> does Congress use Geico?
<Lupine> Geico had a history of giving away free radar guns to cops, and the like
<Estuary> koook - heh
<tweek> Estuary: just ignore 'im and he'll go away.
<RustyFord> Cry check this out
<Herzen> YYZ is pretty stupid
<occ> theres nobody "guaranteeing" the right to an abortion
<tweek> Lupine: heh! didn't know.
<RustyFord> my wife on her way home from work last night got nailed by a rock in the windshiled
<RustyFord> no premium adjust no fault
<Lupine> tweek: Yep, was a huge scandal in the early 90s.. people tried to sue, but were thrown out
<RustyFord> they are fixing it on monday
<CryArvach> she should have stayed at impulse speed
<RustyFord> woot!
<Lupine> rf: Yep.. as I said, that's not geico being nice, that's the law in most states
<tweek> what'd be the basis of the suit?
<occ> you're not going to be interfered with if you seek an abortion
<RustyFord> they were like "oh my god you called us and you just got home?!?!"
<CryArvach> occ....yet
<occ> but the government isn't obliged to GET you an abortion
<suna> rustyford you are not a dog!
<suna> but your picture says you are a dog
<RustyFord> Lupine i found out that its not the law in the USA
<suna> and a cute one
<RustyFord> suna hehehhehe
<occ> talk, YYZ
<Lupine> rf: its usually by state
<tweek> Estuary: see what I mean? he's gone.
<occ> i wantcha
<RustyFord> i have stalkers
<CryArvach> man oh man we were swamped tpoday....
<YYZ> but it must guarantee everyone the right to an abortion
<Lupine> suna: he dry humps dogs
<RustyFord> so they can't see who i really am hehe
<occ> why do you say that?
<Lupine> Cry: work at a home depot?
<Estuary> As a liberal, i think that the vast majority of abortions could be avoided by a cultural shift that gets real and honest about ***uality, particularly teenage ***uality, moves away from faith-based moralizing, and takes the responsible use of prophylactics seriously.
<YYZ> how can you limt it to only certain groups??
<occ> theres no "right" to an abortion, obviously
<CryArvach> RustyFord did not pay his Nambla Dues again...
<tweek> YYZ: listen to your damned self, kid.
<occ> its a service which you pay for
<KoooK> you are beautiful no matter what they say
<Lupine> my parrot is preening my arm hair.. :-/
<RustyFord> hey now
<RustyFord> don't ***ociate me with nambla ever
<tweek> a bit too close to home, eh RF?
<Herzen> As a conservative, I think teh vast majority of abortions could be avoided by a culture shift that promotes responsable ***ual practices, abstinance at a young age, and the promotion of traditional social values
<RustyFord> i will get my lawyer after you!
<Estuary> the catholics who want to have "no condoms" AND "no abortions" are burning the candle at both ends, and its failed for decades.
<occ> "no, we're the national ***ociation of marlon brando look-alikes. we've been fighting them for the domain name for years!"
<CryArvach> ok ..RustyFord did not pay his MJ fan club dues again..
<Lupine> est: most practicing american catholics do not hold to the "no condoms" anymore
<CryArvach> Michael is stalking him
<RustyFord> occ, I look nothing like ****ing Brando
<Lupine> it's not a major force at least
<IamKing> tweek: don't get bent out of shape on this...it's simply "reductio ad absurdum"
<occ> i was quoting south park ;)
<redfish> estuary thats nice:) many people dont use condoms in *** because they are in heat and dont think or care about it. that touchesthe whole point in moralizing about *** btw whether faith based or not
<KoooK> Herzen: quick suggestion --> [00:04] <KoooK> FreeTrade, get rid of the playboy/stripclubs/sororities/frats/girl&boyscouts/mardigras society and you're on your way to raise to value of human body
<Estuary> herzen - youth abstinance sounds nice in theory, but in practice, it doesn't work.
<Lupine> rusty:w ow, I know marlon was gay.. but you ****ed him????
<KoooK> step 1
<IamKing> "disproof of a proposition by showing an absurdity to which it leads when carried to its logical conclusion"
<CryArvach> Lupine...in US and EU at least...
<KoooK> or one of many
<tweek> IamKing: err...? - you talking about Thompson?
<CryArvach> Africa and SA...don'
<redfish> neither does instructing people to use condoms estuary
<CryArvach> t you believe it
<IamKing> tweek: no, about you getting upset with YYZ
<Lupine> CA: sure.. but i was referring to US.. *shrug*
<RustyFord> I look more like a cross between Val Kilmer, Picard from star trek, and Sam Elliot
<Herzen> KoooK, right
<Herzen> I'd agree with that
<RustyFord> hahahha
<CryArvach> IamKing..I liked your ***trich pic...
<Lupine> I know there are also cultural reasons against condoms in large parts of africa
<tweek> oh; the thing is, it's a useless attack. it doesn't go anywhere.
<CryArvach> it needs a crown though LOL
<RustyFord> I don't look nearly as good with a bald head though
<RustyFord> hehhee
<Lupine> RF: you forgot the 4rth movie start you look like.. minime
<CryArvach> Lupine...they breed like rats there
<Estuary> redfish - untrue. there are several studies that promotion of and instruction for condom use decreases un-safe *** and pregnancies. abstinance doesn't, for a variety of reasons.
<CryArvach> many say I look fine with one
<KoooK> Herzen: stripclubs are legal here but i'm not sure we even have 5 of them in the entire country.
<suna> i need a hair cut
<Estuary> Abstinance sends a contradictory message to teenagers.
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