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<gopp> Emil^ and more and more cuban the new cuban
<gopp> are voting
<gopp> democart
<Rockfish> So was I
<gopp> Emil^ so your logic is wron
<gopp> gg
<tnzr> democ4rt
<Emil^> gopp - hehe well i mean you've of cuban descent so you must be right
<yowz||> yeah, nice tu-tu
<Emil^> :)
<Rockfish> Bush won by several million votes last year
<gopp> Emil^ Emil^ in florida it the old cuban base the consertive base that came in the 60's not in the boat lift of marieal
<Rockfish> In Florida
<gopp> Emil^ those who left cuba, and didn;t accept fidel from day are prue republican
<Emil^> gopp - explain to me why the majority of americans want to trade with cuba.......also explain why we're not allowed by either major party plz? humor me
<gopp> Emil^ the senator and congressman from FL are cuban
<Kaliuna> FL keeps getting hit by hurricanes and who helps them most - the gop --
<gopp> american
<gopp> republican
<Emil^> gopp - cuban exiles hate cuba more than any american i know btw
<gopp> Emil^ not true
<gopp> Emil^ I know many americans here
<gopp> who hate fidel
<gopp> and it a logical fallcy
<Kaliuna> so ok -- now we look at national elections... got several coming up for elections next year...
<Emil^> that is the spheal gopp - you got it
<gopp> we don't hate cuba
<gopp> we hate fidel
<gopp> we love cuba
<gopp> the country
<redfish> im just saying how you sound. most people wouldnt have *** with a girl just because she did something like that, even though many people talk as if they would. people just dont work that way unless theyre more obsessive about *** than normal
<Emil^> gopp - lets say we had a national vote.................
<gopp> we hate fidel
<Emil^> gopp - work with me
<gopp> Emil^ let say we ask fair question
<Emil^> we have a national vote - an actual referrundum - that says - 'should we trade with cuba'
<gopp> like do you support putting people in jail
<gopp> for freedom of speech
<gopp> yes or NO
<KoooK> i hope cuba never becomes little america
<gopp> do you support stealing
<Emil^> gopp - what happens when 75% of americans say yes trade with them - would that change your mind
<gopp> Emil^ if you ask fair question
<gopp> Emil^ you must
<gopp> or you will the answer you want
<gopp> get
<US-Male> Democrats are scared of the Cuban vote.
<gopp> it simple liberal media does it all the time
<TimothyW> gopp : If you had the Presidency of Cubah ? You would shouting Those DEMOCARTS ARE MY FRIENDS.
<gopp> they ask question to get cretain statics
<Kaliuna> KoooK -- getting that time of year I want lutefisk.. and dep de gratin and ....... and my spelling isbad
<gopp> statics and more statics and lies
<US-Male> it's the only "minority" that gives Republicans a fair chance
<Emil^> gopp - fallacy #1 - liberans and conservatives equally refuse to acknolwedge or trade with cuba - but go on
<gopp> sure
<gopp> that is true
<gopp> we refuse
<gopp> consertive do
<Kaliuna> dang it - best sugar came from sugar cane --
<gopp> cuban consertive
<gopp> not sure about LP party
<Kaliuna> yaaaaaaaa
<Kaliuna> you betcha
<Emil^> gopp - this is where the republicans and deomcrats are on the same page - i thought this was common sense - but well.............you're a miami cuban i guess
<gopp> we consertive sure would love to trade with cuba if fidel castro is gone
<gopp> that the truth
<gopp> no fallacy
<gopp> thier a condtion
<gopp> fidel castro
<gopp> and it negates us from tradding
<gopp> that simple
<bud```> Cuba was threatening american big business throughout latin america, america sabotaged cuba, burned crops, cooked up stories, threatened invasion, russia came into defend cuba, america cooked up more stories, nukes became involved, here we are decades later, still embarressed and causing harm
<Emil^> both major parties **** *** to miami cubans.......if you dont - you loose florida - is this so hard for you to belive?
<gopp> Emil^ so you forget to metion how many american bussiness hate fidel
<gopp> Emil^ history factoid
<gopp> Emil^ fidel took united fruite comapny
<gopp> and other sugar companies
<Emil^> gopp- barcardi for one - i know the history
<US-Male> a lot of Democrats hate Cubans
<gopp> bussiness from cuba
<KoooK> gopp got BurstWrite in his client
<gopp> Emil^ so not just cuban
<gopp> americans that you didn't say
<redfish> i had a high school european history teacher who was cuban
<gopp> Emil^ give american fair question, and let see what they say
<Emil^> gopp - well, what i asked you earlier was as trick question
<gopp> not question to get a bias or creatin result
<Emil^> gopp - turns out the majority of americans do want to trade with cuba
<KoooK> redfish, did you like his scent?
<redfish> i never stopped to smell him
<KoooK> :(
<gopp> Emil^ ask if they want to trade with fidel
<gopp> Emil^ cuba != fidel
<gopp> fidel rules cuba
<Kaliuna> party time
<Emil^> gopp - keep telling illinois we have no right to sell our products to cuba
<gopp> so trading with cuba is trading with the ceo
<gopp> and that is fidel
<Emil^> gopp - to me it sounds like our trade is being hampered because of unconditional hate
<gopp> Emil^ ask them if they support trading with a dicator
<US-Male> Illinois should secede
<gopp> if you people want to trade go ahead
<Emil^> hehe
<Emil^> this is fun
<gopp> if all you care about is money
<gopp> and not the cuban people in cuba
<gopp> go ahead
<Emil^> gopp - you're a fan of republicans?? all about free trade i take it?
<Kaliuna> turn on radio -- listen to some music --
<gopp> I am not a republican
<US-Male> Illinois should make its own foreign policy, and treaties
<gopp> I support LP
<Emil^> how about letting businessed do what they do and make money
<gopp> Emil^ I am for free trade
<gopp> in central america
<gopp> Emil^ and domincan republic
<gopp> Emil^ not with north korea
<gopp> or cuba
<Emil^> us-male - we're not allowed too - both parties are in the pockets of cuban exiles - they love florida and it's 22+ electoral votes
<KoooK> i cant see why trade with cuba would be a bad thing
<bud```> LP would drop every stupid restriction about cuba in a heartbeat
<gopp> Emil^ so ill should also trade with north korea
<gopp> Emil^ sushi export
<Kaliuna> KoooK -- foods ya - lets do so again...
<US-Male> Emil^: that seems paranoid
<US-Male> cuban exiles are only a tiny part of American politics
<bud```> KoooK i dunno either, i really think its like america is a silly brat thats too proud to admit defeat over a decades old issue
<Emil^> nah - i just wanna trade with cuba - they want our products they wanna give us their money
<gopp> Emil^ if we use your logic, then we should trade with north korea
<West`> not a tiny part when it comes to florida.
<gopp> Emil^ why not north korea
<gopp> Emil^ both are dicatorship
<West`> enough for both sides to pander to them.
<Emil^> gopp - we trade with china? should we not do that?? they are a dictatorship?
<gopp> Emil^ the reason they said yes
<US-Male> Florida is only one part of American poitics
<gopp> is becuase you asked question, based on the result you wanted
<gopp> it statics 101
<Emil^> gopp - so based on yoru logic we should NOT trade with china now lol
<ddrt> err china a dictatorship?
<gopp> Emil^ sure
<gopp> Emil^ I don't like to trade with china
<gopp> NO
<US-Male> Democrats are scared of the Cuban vote.
<KoooK> bud, i think there's a 50 year old yellow post-it note on the desk in the oval office reading "Fidel killed JFK. Let them suffer."
<gopp> I try not to buy goods made in china
<Emil^> gopp lol
<gopp> Emil^ you may, I don't
<West`> yes, but its one of the parts that you need to win in the last decades enviornment.
<Emil^> i want humiliate you - you do buy chinese products - so i guess youre a hypocrit
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