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<gopp> Emil^ I don't hate
<gopp> it
<ddrt> us citizens can go to cuba when ever they want?
<gopp> Emil^ I just don't belive it it accurate
<gopp> Emil^ give me the source
<gopp> prove it
<gopp> I want the journal that did the reasearch
<gopp> and all the question asked in the study
<TimothyW> gopp : that isn't Corrupt. That pays for Cubans like you. For Us to build you newer homes and Cities when Castro and Company is gone.
<gopp> TimothyW yes but selective contracts
<gopp> TimothyW I suppose
<Emil^> gopp - i can look up some stats for you - but this is not right to put the burden of proof on me.......1) i know illinois - we WANT to trade with cuba.......and well who really gives a **** about cuba or cuban exiles outside of florida anyway
<gopp> TimothyW good point
<gopp> TimothyW but still no bid contracts
<US-Male> oh, **** Illinois
<gopp> to highest bidder
<ddrt> if so...i will book a flight for next month
<gopp> Emil^ one state = usa
<KoooK> gopp, what would it hurt to sell food to cuba?
<US-Male> Illinois is a state., not a nation
<Emil^> americans as a whole want trade and profit
<gopp> Emil^ that a logical fallacy
<gopp> Emil^ give me url
<gopp> source
<ddrt> any suggestions for a good airline?
<US-Male> Illinois has almost as many electoral votes as FL
<US-Male> there's no reason to complain
<Emil^> gopp - once i said cuba and trade - everysingle thing i've said you've ssaid is a fallacy
<CryArvach> US-Male///actually...more...
<Emil^> gopp - to me if anyone here's credentials are suspect it's yours
<US-Male> is it more now? damn
<KoooK> gopp, if you say the people won't get the food. then who why does it matter
<Emil^> well and us-male (even tho i love that guy)
<TimothyW> gopp : Bechtel loves you.
<FozzyB> IL wants to Trade with Cuba?
<CryArvach> IL has always had a lot of EVs
<gopp> US-Male he won't even give me a source
<US-Male> Emil^: you're acting like a Democrat -- attacking those who disagree
<FozzyB> IL has the 5th or 6th highest population.
<gopp> US-Male I asked him twice
<gopp> nicelly
<FozzyB> Only because of Chicago. :)
<CryArvach> FL will prob beat all of the MW except IL by 2010
<gopp> CryArvach is from florida
<gopp> know
<gopp> you should know
<CryArvach> I live here yes
<gopp> I am from north NJ
<Emil^> us-male nooooooo! it's not like that - i dotn want to attack you guys - tho i am perplexed how you can't see what the majority of americans thinks is obvious
<gopp> and my town is 70% cuban
<CryArvach> NC will be more than MI or IN
<US-Male> Emil^: oh you don't "want to" but you do
<ddrt> any travel agents in here?...i want to go to cuba
<gopp> sure
<FozzyB> emil: back from Overseas?
<US-Male> Emil^: that's BS - -you also attack an entire ethnic group for not voting how you want
<CryArvach> ddrt..you from the USA?
<gopp> ddrt you can travel to cuba
<gopp> thru mexico
<gopp> or canda
<gopp> you have that right
<Emil^> us-male - my poitn being is i agree with you 90% of the time and am amazed you can see something i and well - most people so clear.......and you dont even see page 1
<gopp> just don't stamp your p***port
<CryArvach> yes....but he best have a good lawyer
<gopp> that all
<US-Male> if Cubans all voted Democrat like say... Mexicans... you;d be singing their praises
<gopp> CryArvach just don't stamp the p***port
<KoooK> ...
<CryArvach> haha ...right
<gopp> CryArvach thier a online travel agent
<gopp> that tells you how to book a flight to cuba
<US-Male> Emil^: it;s quite the reverse - -you can't even see page 0
<gopp> if your a us citzen
<CryArvach> does not matter...when The State Dept. finds out ( and they will)
<ddrt> so it is simple err.....
<US-Male> Cubans vote more lke the rest of American -- close to evenly split
<gopp> CryArvach yea
<US-Male> not like other "minorities"
<gopp> US-Male your right
<JanetB> politicians pander to what ever group they happen to be addressing at the moment
<Emil^> us-male - ack! this is frustrating lol - i thought you were smart.........you are - just dont get how you dont see this like the rest of us dop
<gopp> US-Male just 10% more toward republican side
<CryArvach> Americans can NOT legally travel to a Cl*** IV country
<gopp> US-Male but local election
<JanetB> thats why you have to go beyond the political speeches and look at the records
<gopp> they even vote democart
<gopp> Emil^ most mayors in south florida
<US-Male> Emil^: see how insulting you are ? I will begin to insult you if you do not cease your behavior
<gopp> been democarts
<CryArvach> NK and Cuba are currently Cl*** IV
<gopp> Emil^ I give up you won't even use me a source
<gopp> good bye
<US-Male> Emil^: I thought you had a brain. Ok your move.
<gopp> nice talking to you
<Emil^> us-male - be nice - i was trying to flatter you & be polite...................
<CryArvach> US-Male..he dropped it.... ( . ) there it is
<US-Male> Emil^: bull****.... "I thought you were smart" means the person is dumb
<gopp> Emil^ do you read acamdic journals about cuba and trade
<US-Male> insult causes insult
<gopp> and who is the person doing the study or case study
<Emil^> we can disagree and still treat each other with respect - i WILL treat you with the respect i always have - again i agree with you 90% of the time - a stupid debate about cuba is nto about to make me talk smack to you
<US-Male> "I thought you were smart" means "I thought you were smart but I was wrong"
<gopp> Emil^ just show me data
<FozzyB> lol
<gopp> all I want is your source
<gopp> that simple
<Emil^> us-male - dont read into it that much man - yes we disagree
<gopp> I am not so smart Emil^, but I don't act like I am
<gopp> I may type funny
<US-Male> Emil^: simply because Cubans won't vote the way you tell them, you want to trample them
<gopp> or spell badly
<JanetB> US-Male.. why are you smacking Emil^?
<gopp> US-Male and locally I belive the mayor of miami
<gopp> has been democarts
<US-Male> you're acting like Fidel -- of course you won't get what you want by teling them what to do
<ddrt> cubans vote?
<gopp> some times a democarts wins in miami
<Emil^> janet thanks but all good
<US-Male> JanetB: read the convo.
<gopp> Emil^ and the congressman for my state is a demcoart Emil^
<gopp> Emil^ NJ congressman bobmendez
<Emil^> my point was BOTH parties equally kiss ***
<gopp> who is cuban
<gopp> is
<gopp> democart
<gopp> and I spoken couple of times with him
<Emil^> both parties have to get those major fringes
<gopp> on the street
<JanetB> Emil^... I am not defending you, you're bigtory is simply insulting... I am wondering why US-Male is wasting time on it :)
<gopp> Emil^ we have a cuban demcoart as a congressman
<US-Male> Emil^, but that's false -- the reality is your mad at Cubans for not voting Democrat lockstep
<gopp> Emil^ look it up
<gopp> bob mendez
<gopp> for the state of NJ
<gopp> it repsent my district
<US-Male> for voting as they see fit, like all other Americans
<gopp> and I dissagree with him on some issue
<gopp> execpt fidel castro
<Emil^> wow! so now i'm a bigot lol...........all this for wanting to be capitalist and trade with a country who wants to give us money.......
<gopp> we agree witht hat
<gopp> and I spoken with him
<US-Male> JanetB: I'll "waste time" to defend any legal voter's right to vote how they want
<Emil^> us-male - hold up - did you just call me a democrat!
<Emil^> us-male you know me better - if anyone has a right to be offended it's me now
<US-Male> Emil^: I said what I said.
<US-Male> see above =)
<gopp> Emil^ can we drop this
<Emil^> we'll have too...apparently a republican is not allowed to support trade with cuba
<JanetB> cuba.. should not be traded with, and you know it... they keep there people in poverty.. to trade with them.. allows those who take atvantage of 99.% of their people to grow more powerful, and cause more harm to the citizens
<ddrt> racist is the most abused acusation ever
<gopp> JanetB if we trade with cuba, let trade with north korea
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