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<Emil^> gopp - GOPP CLAIMS, IT'S A FACT I'M A LIBERAL
<gopp> and stated the truth that not all cuban support republican party
<Emil^> how would you like it if i claimed you were KENNEDY LIBERAL
<gopp> and I am a republican cuban
<US-Male> hehehee
<Emil^> STOP THERE
<gopp> I never said you where nothing
<gopp> I never said
<gopp> nor did I ***ume
<Emil^> WHAT I SAID IS BOTH PARITIES ARE TEH SAME
<gopp> Emil^ all you said both parties are agreeing to trade with cuba
<US-Male> typing in caps will get you in trouble
<gopp> which is false
<Emil^> DO NOT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH PLZ - i'm down to discuss this....but you keep falsely stating what i belive
<ddrt> that is why i believe in freedom...no party
<Emil^> us-male - well i guess this channel needs a reason to boot me
<US-Male> Emil^: yeha, I guess "this channel" is out to get you huh
<gopp> Emil^ can we dissagree on cuba
<Emil^> my entire points is both parties equally **** *** to miami cubans
<gopp> Emil^ wrong
<gopp> Emil^ sending enlian gonlez backto cuba
<gopp> hinder al gore vote
<Emil^> find say i'm wrong - but dont call me a democrat or republican or whatever you will for stating the facts
<gopp> Emil^ who sent elian back to cuba
<redfish> i did
<gopp> Emil^ if they wanted the cuba vote
<gopp> they would allowed him to stay
<US-Male> Emil^: both parties pander to everyone - -why to you focus on "Miami Cubans" ?
<gopp> and sure enough gore could of won folorida
<Emil^> gopp - either party in power would have done the same
<gopp> Emil^ not bush
<gopp> I don't think so
<US-Male> Emil^: it's suspect that you focus on one group only in your "pandering" claim
<gopp> and last itme
<gopp> time
<gopp> I want the source
<Emil^> us-male - that is blatently not true - perhaps misunderstood at best
<gopp> to the american support trade with cuba
<US-Male> both parties court the vote of all groups, including Cubans
<gopp> Emil^ last time where is your source to that claim
<gopp> about americanand trade with cuba
<Emil^> us-male i agree on that
<US-Male> so where's teh problem? Everyone is pandered to
<gopp> Emil^ politics
<gopp> 101
<US-Male> "courted" or however we want to say it
<gopp> Emil^ life is unfair
<gopp> so what
<Emil^> gopp - i will find you a couple given time - tho i dont think stating the obvious should be necessary to source
<gopp> good nnite
<Emil^> well - apparently there is a strong biased in the people against anyone who dares to support trade with cuba - so i'll call it a loss and agree to diagree with you all
<US-Male> Emil^: or bias against those who disagree with you
<Emil^> gopps you left a second too earlier - i'm capitulating - agreeing that there is no way in hell i can get this channel as a whole to agree that trade with cuba is the right thing
<ddrt> i like the idea of trade with cuba
<Emil^> us-male - i will say once again i agree with you 90% of the time - am bummed we cant see eye to eye on this issue which i think is crystal clear (apparently you see it teh same)
<Emil^> ddrt! shhh......it's a given you'll get hate for that attitude
<Emil^> but we can agree to diagree
<US-Male> only 2-4 people disagreed with you -- how is that a whole channel ?
<ddrt> y?
<US-Male> that seems paranoid to me.
<Emil^> us-male - i guess i'm slightly miffed cuz i'm not used to be treated with such ardent, borderline hostility in this channel
<US-Male> Emil^: people have a right to disagree with you -- I saw hostility from you
<Emil^> i'm not upset at you
<US-Male> and responded
<US-Male> I'm not mad at you either
<Emil^> perhaps that's my debate style - i'm truley not hostile
<Kaliuna> well shucks -- you guys get over your ahhh dissertation yet?
<Emil^> it's over and done - whatever people think of me cool - i dont mind
<redfish> the fashion industry is so creative in style, thats why 3 out of 4 fashion magazine covers will show the model having her hair blown by a fan
<Kaliuna> Emil - thats cool
<haku1> yes
<haku1> the magazine industry is the fashion industry!
<redfish> no its part of it,..
<haku1> lol
<redfish> then if you go to fashion designers.. most of them just produce the same look.. glam
<haku1> so you say the fashion industry is not creative because a part of it isn't?
<redfish> in many different forms
<haku1> uh huh
<haku1> do you even look at fashions?
<redfish> yes
<ddrt> i live in fl....there are no more committed ppl to the american dream than cubans
<haku1> glam lol
<redfish> haku yes most fashion lines from designers have a glam look to them
<haku1> glam is so nebulous it really doesn't make sense to call it a look
<redfish> yes it is something identifiable
<Emil^> ddrt - i am done with this issue - but feel i shoudl clarifty - i never said anything to contrary
<haku1> what the hell do you even mean by glam
<haku1> most designers are totally different...
<haku1> lolz
<ddrt> we will call it done then
<redfish> theyre different in unimportant ways
<haku1> unimportant to whom?
<redfish> most major developments in fashion come outside designers
<Emil^> ddrt good call :) done and peace to all here
<haku1> to you?
<redfish> ok to me, are you happy now, i dont see how you want me to answer the question you seem to want to enter a debate on subjectivity or something which is off topic
<haku1> uh huh
<haku1> so fashion is really uncreative
<haku1> because it all looks glam to you...
<Kaliuna> Wilma is still sitting over Yucatan
<haku1> this is quite insightful...
<KoooK> I'm just trying to find a decent melody.
<TimothyW> Kaliuna : generating speed ?
<redfish> yes because it looks glam to me, of course. never mind
<Kaliuna> TimW -- dunno - just listening to news top of hour thing...
<Lotec> MIAMI (AP) - Tropical Storm Alpha formed Saturday in the Caribbean, setting the record for the most named storms in an Atlantic hurricane season and marking the first time forecasters had to turn to the Greek alphabet for names.
<Kaliuna> wb peeps
<redfish> high fashion designers mix and match different styles all the time in ways they find interestings its rare that they actually invent a new style that actually stands out, most changes in fashion have happened outside the industry. most is not remembered because it really doesnt stand out in any way than being a way to put together different styles to have another glam look
<TimothyW> I think someone is playing backgammon with the servers.
<redfish> if you dont agree just say so
<Kaliuna> TimW -- could be
<haku1> *yawn*
<redfish> *yawn*
<KoooK> redfish why are there no big american fashion brands on the global market. other than nike and levis which isnt all that impressive
<TimothyW> Kaliuna : I could login to my admin mail and see but I like using my sensors.
<redfish> koook i dont know whats sold in sweden , there are a few major ny designers though
<Kaliuna> TimW - ya -- it happens, but not as much as it used to...
<KoooK> is donna karen american?
<redfish> yes
<KoooK> then that's one
<KoooK> DKNY
<KoooK> ok whatever
<KoooK> just seems like something america could have exploited more
<KoooK> puu
<KoooK> poo
<fleatrade> Dont See the Movie Lord of War with Nicholas Cage...
<fleatrade> I am so pissed, I was so ripped off.
<TheTailor> Is there money in the flea trade?
<Kaliuna> go see chicken little - then you can laugh
<fleatrade> I thought it was going to be a comedy the ad was.
<Abydos313> terrible movie fleatrade
<CryArvach> whats wrong FT?
<fleatrade> It is 2 hours of lecture about how bad guns are and how Bush is Arming all the Evil Dictators in the world
<CryArvach> ok...gotcha
<fleatrade> Shame on hollywood
<fleatrade> I was ripped
<CryArvach> fleatrade...was Mikey moore co-producer? :)
<fleatrade> Pure Propaganda
<trompe> KoooK: Ralph Lauren is a large brand
<fleatrade> Tricked into seeing a Michael Moore lie.
<fleatrade> Man i am telling you I want to sue to get my money back
<CryArvach> I actually do not often see movies at moment...theater is 22 miles away
<fleatrade> Nicholas Cage taught me in his many movies to love action violence and now hes preaching for 2 hours.
<fleatrade> **** him , Kill him.....
<CryArvach> Nicholas Cage has sunk so low...a shame...
<fleatrade> Ok thats my rant..
<fleatrade> Did you guys hear it was a propaganda film ?
<Abydos313> this has been the year of really bad movies
<Chrono-Z> I did, yes.
<CryArvach> ft...regarding your solution...for 100 bucks some would do that for fun
<TheTailor> I didn't until now
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