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<vasili0s> 5 mill ?
<STINGRAY`> glitch agreed
<Abydos313> yep
<ErrorF002> and with a worker registration program... we can ensure that they are documented on entry
<Emil^> glitch - dear god - not this **** calling me a liberal again
<Rockfish> Vas, probably double that
<Emil^> what we need is more green cards for seasonal workers period
<STINGRAY`> emil i thought you was libservative
<ErrorF002> |Glitch| = Bill O'Reilly
<Emil^> but...........the politics for that becoming a reality - that is harsh and a very very tough uphill battle
<ErrorF002> if they don't agree with you LABEL THEM SOMTHING!
<Abydos313> we need to deport atleast a million just from LA alone
<STINGRAY`> glitch why do migrant farm workers have big noses?
<KN> oreilly bugs me
<KN> big time
<ErrorF002> STINGRAY` LOL
<|Glitch|> STINGRAY`: Why? :)
<STINGRAY`> error they have big nnoses so they can have something to pick during the Off season
<Kool-Aid> Well, thing is, people who came to US from asia and europe were the cream of crops. But we're getting the dregs from the Mexico
<Emil^> i would think to think if i were a native mexican - the smart bet goes - MOVE to america - we can make money here
<|Glitch|> STINGRAY`: Hehehe That was bad. :)
<Abydos313> that's another problem. the roads were not designed for this kind of influx .. freeways can't handle it. housing is thru the roof
<Alton> KN--is there some reason I can't PM you?
<Emil^> does this means we should allow illelgal immigrants?? hell no
<STINGRAY`> glitch hahahaha
<Emil^> illelgals needs to be cracked down on - but we need to be realistic
<KN> Kool Aid: thats because their country has nothing to offer its not their fault their country ****s ***
<ErrorF002> STINGRAY` I now the joke
<ErrorF002> know
<STINGRAY`> error hehehe
<ErrorF002> Keep in mind
<Abydos313> so what would be a logical solution.. one that could really work and people accept
<ErrorF002> I am a Hispanic American
<ErrorF002> I was born here
<Alton> It's our country so I think we should mine the bordser
<Emil^> if you're were a mexcian and you wanted to make money - you're a dumb *** if you think ' well the u.s. is illelgal - i wont go there '
<Kool-Aid> KN: You are not getting my point, it took more to leave asia and europe to get to US than to simple cross the border
<ErrorF002> My parents fleed an oppresive regime to come here.
<KN> youre right
<KN> indeed alton!
<Emil^> error - my grandparents left prussia for the same reason
<STINGRAY`> emil lets see illagals cost us to put their kids in out schools we pay for all their medical care they they get fake ss cards and get unemployment and food stamps and you think they should stay?
<STINGRAY`> error from where
<ErrorF002> Cuba
<vasili0s> it's progressed too far now. live with it, if you can that is.
<Emil^> stingray - hell no brotha!
<Emil^> stingray - i'm all aabout the legal way - our country was built on immigrants - we need to support legal immigrants
<ErrorF002> no here too
<STINGRAY`> error hey my brothers soninlaw is from cuba he is a doctor here. he said when cuba gets free we will go buy all the used 50's cars cheap
<ErrorF002> heh
<STINGRAY`> emil leagal yes illegal no
<Alton> Emil--by that logic we should let the entire third world in and that is undoable because the thrird world grows by 80 million per year
<ErrorF002> there's lots of them.... but filled with Russian parts....
<STINGRAY`> error he gets mad i call him babaloo
<Abydos313> i think bush's solution for getting all illegals out of this country is amnesty :(
<|Glitch|> STINGRAY`: Only a liberal would seek to excuse criminal activity. To them the "Rule of Law" is an alien concept.
<ErrorF002> My Cabbie is for hire senora
<Emil^> alton - you obviously did not read what i was saying close enough *sigh*
<STINGRAY`> glitch agreed again
<STINGRAY`> error hahahaha
<STINGRAY`> error where do you live now?
<ErrorF002> |Glitch| what do you gain with those statements? Do you honestly think liberals like crime?
<ErrorF002> STINGRAY` Miani
<Emil^> all i'm supporting is LEGLAL immigration
<STINGRAY`> error hey venice fl here
<Emil^> my bad - damn typing - LEGAL
<ErrorF002> cool
<STINGRAY`> error i am sending wilma your way
<ErrorF002> thanks
<STINGRAY`> your wellcome
<ErrorF002> anything you want me to give her as she p***es through
<STINGRAY`> error a big hug
<ErrorF002> don't worry.... I put shutters up today.
<|Glitch|> ErrorF002: They must, they manufacture every excuse they can think of to excuse the abhorrent behavior.
<Emil^> but also - it doesnt' take a genious to realize that the agriculture's industry's int eh SW do NOT WANT LEGAL immigrants - they cost too much
<ErrorF002> I am sitting in my aluminum clad fortress AT<
<STINGRAY`> error i am parking the newer corvette outside next to some trees
<TimothyW> ErrorF002 : A Trailer ?
<Kool-Aid> Immigrants from Mexico aren't too big on education either. They're bringing us down.
<STINGRAY`> tim w hahahaha
<ErrorF002> TimothyW no a townhouse... the shutters are made of aluminum.
<Emil^> california desperatly wants more seasonal workers - but amazingly enough - hmmmmmmmmmmmm...........they're not allowed these
<KN> Kool Aid they arent educated to start with, they need to learn somewhere
<Rockfish> Error got himself a doublewide
<STINGRAY`> error the shutters are metal the house is straw?
<ErrorF002> mud brick
<Emil^> who benefits from califronia not being allowed to hire enough workers??
<|Glitch|> Emil^: Let them hire citizens, or go broke.
<STINGRAY`> hey all the chantys in mexico are built to withstand hurricanes hehehe
<Emil^> glitch - AMEN - you hit the nail on the head
<STINGRAY`> error hahaha
<Rockfish> Citizens or legal residents
<Emil^> glitch - they will go broke......or at least not make their *profit* margin
<Emil^> no tell me - who is most against seasonal workers?
<|Glitch|> Rockfish: Yes, I didn't mean to exclude those who legally entered the US.
<Rockfish> They won't go broke, they will raise prices and we will pay them
<ErrorF002> |Glitch| have you ever taken a critical thinking course? Statements like these " They must, they manufacture every excuse they can think of to excuse the abhorrent behavior." Are considered fallacious
<STINGRAY`> did anyone see the new california state quarter? on the front a bunch of illegals running across the boarder and on back of the coin 2 guys fudge packing
<Emil^> rockfish - have you ever ran your own business before?
<Rockfish> Emil, no, but I don't think people are going to stop buying food
<ErrorF002> STINGRAY`... which side is considerend heads?....
<|Glitch|> Rockfish: Of course they won't go broke, they'll just p*** on their increased labor costs to the consumer, like every other corporation on the face of the planet.
<Abydos313> STINGRAY` i thought arnold veto'd that one..heh
<Emil^> rockfish - well i do run my own busniness - for you to tell me pay more or pack it up - that is well....you dont get it
<ErrorF002> don't answer that..
<STINGRAY`> Abydos hahaha
<STINGRAY`> lotec heya
<Emil^> rockfish - take an econ 101 cl*** plz
<Lotec> STING
<Rockfish> Emil, we are telling you to obey the law, nothing more
<Kool-Aid> Bottom line is that the immigrants from Mexico aren't benefiting our country in a same way as the immigrants from asia and europe
<Emil^> rockfish - and that i agree with - now tell that to busninesses in california, NM, AR
<STINGRAY`> brb
<STINGRAY`> bbiab
<Emil^> who do you think is paying the lobbyists the money they are to STOP SEASONAL WORKERS
<Lotec> STING, see ya
<Rockfish> Emil, well I don't think the sentiment was limited to employers in any one state
<Abydos313> i bet we will see terrorism from mexicans if we clamp the border down and cut off drug trade and border crossings
<Emil^> rockfish - sorry, to clarify - lets just focus on califronia, NM, and arizona
<ErrorF002> Just Curious and would like to take a poll... How does everyone feel on documenting mexicans, and taxing wire transfers to mexico? Please answer with a Yes/Yes or No/Yes etc...
<|Glitch|> Kool-Aid: The Asian and European immigrants are also better educated than the majority of Americans.
<Emil^> cuz well if your'e talking about mexican green card seasonal workers you are talking about the southwest
<tweek> took err jerb!!
<KN> lol
<KN> i lvoe that episode
<Rockfish> No need to focus anywhere, obey employment laws, period, no matter where you are
<tweek> KN: you liked the really, really gay pile?
<Emil^> rockfish - that works great for me in illinois - but well fact is.........what about seasonal workers in the southwest?
<KN> it was funny tweek yes haha
<|Glitch|> Rockfish: Abide by the law? What a novel concept! ...for liberals anyway. Hehehe
<Emil^> why does california REFUSE to allow more seasonal workers? who is behind that?
<Lotec> We should look for and fine employers who hire illegals
<Emil^> i mena - based off what your'e saying california stand the gain the most?
<Abydos313> exactly. enforce the stinkin laws
<KN> what do you mean error?
<Emil^> enforece the laws - we need that
<ErrorF002> Just Curious and would like to take a poll... How does everyone feel on documenting mexicans, and taxing wire transfers to mexico? Please answer with a Yes/Yes or No/Yes etc...
<Emil^> enforce the laws - ii do want that
<Rockfish> I suspect California is trying to limit the number of illegals crossing its borders, but that's just a gues
<Abydos313> yes, but its not enough ErrorF002
<Emil^> but be prepared to **** over california and arizona in the process
<ErrorF002> Abydos313 but its a start
<ErrorF002> any changes that are made will need to be phased in.
<|Glitch|> Rockfish: Well, if they can keep the number of illegals down to 1,000 per day that would be a BIG improvement. :)
<Emil^> rockfish - calfornia - needs seasonal workers - but companies prefer to pay **** wages
<Lotec> Screw CA and AZ if they can't make it with legal workers
<Abydos313> i'll take anything. organizing and picketing business's that hire illegals would be a great start too
<Rockfish> How would it be ****ing over the states of California and Arizona, forcing employers to hire legal workers = higher wages = higher prices = higher taxes = happy state govts
<Kool-Aid> There should be an amendment which states that the children of the illegals who're born in US won't get the automatic US citizenship
<ErrorF002> Abydos313 that would be phase two in my book
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