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<FreeTrade> I said if you are so religious why do you cuss
<FreeTrade> he says there is nothing wrong with cussing, But if you use the lords name in vain its wrong.
<CometBaby> tnzr .. sure there is. People who speak ebonics are seen as ignorant .. and it's the same with people who cuss all the time in public. People will take a different view of them.
<FreeTrade> thats all the bible ever said
<CometBaby> Sorry if that seems very direct .. but it's true.
<FreeTrade> So if I said Jesus Christ
<FreeTrade> he would get angry
<FreeTrade> But if I said, ****ing ****. He wouldnt care.
<CometBaby> tnzr .. words are powerful.
<FreeTrade> One time I was on a construction project a church.. The paster walked by at the same time I hit my finger, And i said DAMNIT
<CometBaby> they can cut like a knife
<FreeTrade> And then I say him and I said, Whoops, I am sorry.
<tnzr> CometBaby: well in this day and age, showing ignorance through lack of skills in the arena of communication is accepted at the highest levels of our government
<tnzr> CometBaby: words are not powerful.. meanings are powerful
<CometBaby> tnzr .. hahaha .. and how do you distinguish the difference?
<FreeTrade> He said, Its quite alright, I am sure god can understand when one hitshimself with a hammer a damnit is not sinful
<FreeTrade> hehe
<FreeTrade> But I thought about it, and I see parents cuss all the time, in calfornia for better or worse its the norm.
<FreeTrade> And then I see them slap their kids for cusssin
<CometBaby> if you say I am angry at you because you are stupid or if you say **** you. Those are words buddy. The meaning is pretty much the same.
<FreeTrade> And I dont see that as right.
<tnzr> CometBaby: because you can say the same thing in a multitude of ways, one being deemed acceptable on the grounds that the words used to communicate such a meaning werent "cuss" words
<RustyFord> FT heheh actually
<RustyFord> the bible says that swearing isn't good
<RustyFord> where paul talks
<RustyFord> i forget the book or the line that its at but its in there=)
<CometBaby> tnzr every time you tell people that it is okay to speak trash you are cheating them
<RustyFord> i thought that too but my wife who is jewish pointed it out to me in the new testament=P
<tnzr> CometBaby: define trash?
<CometBaby> a string of cuss words
<FreeTrade> Well, **** should be added to the dictionary, Definition 1: a curse when one does himself wrong or gets angry.. 2. A figure of speech which gives emphasis to the sentence, and the last definition should be ***ual intercourse.
<CometBaby> there are better ways to express yourself
<FreeTrade> But I agree in public company one should adhere to strict rules of etiquette, I do and my children do.
<CometBaby> particularly if you plan to get ahead in this world
<RustyFord> **** = Forbidden Unlawful Carnal Knowledge
<tnzr> CometBaby: well I think someone spewing words off in yosemite sam fashion is rediculous no matter how harsh the choices of wordss
<FreeTrade> I dont want to be offensive to other people.
<RustyFord> which if you put that whole term together is NOT a bad word=P
<CometBaby> you want to be looked upon as ignorant?
<RustyFord> or phrase
<CometBaby> a southern accent is not beligerant
<CometBaby> it is natural
<FreeTrade> Comet, Thats why in public one must always comport themselves in a way appropriate for the occ***ion.
<CometBaby> FreeTrade exactly
<tnzr> accents are no different than slang imho
<RustyFord> hehehe, they say "Wether true or not" that back in the old days people would be stocked in the court yard of the town with a sign saying "Guilty of Forbidden Unlawful Carnal Knowledge"
<tnzr> slang us the umbrella that holds swear words btw
<RustyFord> but its not been proven
<tnzr> s/us/is
<CometBaby> the fact is that people will view you differently if you cannot speak w/o cussing
<CometBaby> I cuss
<CometBaby> not very often but I do
<JanetB> accents are no different than slang?
<CometBaby> I don't like it when I do
<JanetB> heh
<occ2> hey hey all
<FreeTrade> Like I Said I have a face for the meeting, and a face for the hard streets full of gangbangers, and at home I relax. I do attempt to tell my kids to not cuss so much when I hear them cussing. Keep it to a minimum...
<JanetB> thats funny
<tnzr> CometBaby: yeah I dont sit around in front of the girlfriends parents dropping F-bombs like a sailor
<FreeTrade> And they dont cuss in public.
<RustyFord> Comet i think people who wish to view me different because I cuss, is someone who has an inferiority complex and hasn't grown up yet
<occ2> swearing alot just doesnt look cl***y
<occ2> i tend to do it too much, but im good about altering my usage based on "present company"
<RustyFord> i look at them like THEY are the wierd ones, not me
<CometBaby> Rusty .. anyone who thinks that the world has to adapt to their dirty mouth has a lot of growing up to do
<RustyFord> or Cometbaby in the famous words of "Some New Yorker" "****'em"
<FreeTrade> But I will not hit my kids for something I do, There is never something which I do which is ok and for them its not ok. Adult movies to me should of been titled Teen *********ory movies.
<FreeTrade> Nothing is adult about them
<occ2> strider and i used to work stocking shelves overnight, and i "offended" a guy there by swearing
<RustyFord> Comet you don't have to adapt=)
<occ2> because he was a jehova's witness
<occ2> hehe
<FreeTrade> Anyone else thought of that as an irony ?
<RustyFord> but nor do i have to adapt =)
<RustyFord> nor should i be expected to=P
<FreeTrade> Adult movies being anything but the material for a strong mature mind. I have thought about that for 30 years
<RustyFord> obviously when the cursing becomes insults thats different
<JanetB> FreeTrade. you did not just say that something you do.. is ok for your kids to do did you?
<FreeTrade> I always thought they should have another name.
<tnzr> what I find ironic about our culture is that people are so scared/affected by slang, something that is truly harmless... ie: in americas army or bf2 (both games where the object is to shoot and kill other players in violent military simulation) people actually get kicked/banned for using swear words in the game, on the grounds that "kids play there"
<occ2> FT: im coming to the conclusion that most porn videos are worthless
<CometBaby> Rusty .. I wouldn't :)
<RustyFord> i always like the conversations where someone will start off saying "hell"
<occ2> at least of the cl***ic "porno movie" type
<FreeTrade> Janet, I dont do anything except with my wife, which I punish my kids for.
<tnzr> thats my issue.. its a really retarded thing about the way our society thinks
<RustyFord> then the next guy is like "damn"
<RustyFord> then the next guy is like "****!"
<occ2> hows our society think?
<JanetB> FreeTrade.. do your drink ar t all?
<FreeTrade> What I mean narrowly by that is, if I cuss I will not punish them for cussing
<RustyFord> then its like hmm is it ok to say "****" now?
<strider_> ****!
<FreeTrade> if I drink I would not punish them for drinking (I do not drink)
<CometBaby> tnzr you are making a leap there. Because people don't like it they are afraid?
<FreeTrade> And so on. In other words. My example to them is one to follow.
<CometBaby> can't they just be offended?
<FreeTrade> I practice what I preache.
<CometBaby> or disgusted?
<FreeTrade> er preach
<tnzr> CometBaby: yes... not specific people, im talking about our culture
<tnzr> CometBaby: yes.. exactly
<RustyFord> heheh Comet i had this science teacher who would say "I don't care if you cuss in this cl*** as long as you use it in proper dictionary form"
<RustyFord> she wouldn't allow you to say "****"
<RustyFord> you HAD to say FECES!
<JanetB> FreeTrade.... even if you drank socially, that does not mean you let your kids drink... sorry but there are things adults can do that children can't.. but reason of age alone :)
<RustyFord> which was cool if you think about it
<RustyFord> hehhehe
<JanetB> and emotional readiness
<FreeTrade> This forum is public
<FreeTrade> we allow a lot to go on here
<FreeTrade> we allow a wide berth
<tnzr> CometBaby: i find it ironic that they would be disgusted by a word (not what the word represents), and yet they are totally fine shooting other people in the head over and over in a game.. as long as its done without swearing
<tnzr> CometBaby: i just find that ironic
<FreeTrade> but we do rememebr it is a public forum and so we do try to control the most obscene things from this channel
<FreeTrade> or I should say we ban them
<FreeTrade> I ban them
<RustyFord> if i preached half the **** i practised, I would be the Joel Olsteen of Satanism
<RustyFord> hehehe
<FreeTrade> I do it regularly, I cuss I dont ban people for cussing.
<RustyFord> **** it
<FreeTrade> if they start reading Penthouse play stories or whatever they are called, I stop it.
<CometBaby> I'll tell you what .. I don't like to see a couple making out in public either .. especially when it is very p***ionate. There are some things that should be reserved for private time. A hug and a kiss is one thing .. but heavy tongue kissing with hands all over each other on a street corner is offensive.
<FreeTrade> I am ****ing worse than anyone on cussing.
<RustyFord> FT doesn't read playboy he reads "Caveman"
<FreeTrade> But on pornograpy, I am strict on this cannel.
<tnzr> CometBaby: did I mention our culture is also prude? :)
<FreeTrade> channnel
<occ2> basically, your kids will discover porn via the internet :)
<occ2> for better or worse
<CometBaby> tnzr .. heh .. anyone who doesn't like indecent behavior is a prude?
<tnzr> or via the kid at kindergarten who has internet access
<FreeTrade> Our culture ****s more, earlier with more partners than almost any culture and we are prudish ?
<RustyFord> you know where i discovered porn?
<FreeTrade> We are not prudish enough.
<occ2> kindergartners dont look at much porn
<CometBaby> I don't want to see a man ****ing a dog on the corner either .. does that make me a prude?
<tnzr> CometBaby: haha you use the word "indecent" as if your perception/opinion on said behavior is law\
<RustyFord> in the outhouse at my grandfathers camp
<RustyFord> hehehhee
<FreeTrade> We need to stop teen *** and stop stds
<tnzr> big-L "Law" that is
<RustyFord> he had TONS of playboys and penthouses from the 60s
<RustyFord> hehhee
<RustyFord> and whatever other ones
<FreeTrade> tnzr, and if you use any enlightened philosophy or religion in history, like Buddhism they consider what comet and I consider obscene.
<TimothyW> Big and Rich is cool.
<occ2> OTOH, glimpsing porn isnt harmful for people, IMO
<tnzr> FreeTrade: enlightened?
<TimothyW> The whole Muzik Mafia is cool.
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