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<ErrorF002> i used to be an independant.... but in the last 5 years I feel as if the scale has slid to the point where I feel like a bleeding heart :-/
<tweek> the idea is to get skilled, you dip****
<Emil^> tweek - when it comes to picking beans or peppers or tomatoes........it's about US companies making the most money and paying the least
<Emil^> tweek - but we dotn allow enough green cards to fill the industries needs
<tweek> Emil^: so import the rest of the beans or peppers or tomatoes... ****.
<Emil^> tweek - no!
<ErrorF002> tweek.. we can't do that
<Alton> tweek--our programmers are skilled but they can't compete with people who will work for one tenth the wage...capuiche?
<Emil^> tweek - i'm saying give more green cards for seasonal workers.........isn't this just common sense?
<|Glitch|> ErrorF002: You aren't the only one. I'm a Goldwater Republican, while todays GOP have become indistinguishable from the 1960s Democrats.
<tweek> Emil^: ... if it's cheaper to import goods ... why not?
<Emil^> tweek - tell this to californianian farmers
<ErrorF002> wow... I have heard that term in a while |Glitch|
<Emil^> tweek - i'll go one up on that
<ErrorF002> haven't
<tweek> ****, I live in South Dakota
<tweek> I'm the last one that should be saying this
<|Glitch|> ErrorF002: I'm such an old Republican I can still remember when the GOP mascott was a Mastadon. :)
<ErrorF002> keep in mind a Goldwater republican is way before my time.
<Emil^> tweek - why is it that california - depiite the fact they NEED the most seasonal workers, why are they the state which also APPOSES this?
<tweek> 'opposes'.
<dog3> cuz of labor unions?
<Emil^> thanks lol
<Alton> simple economics--if each item in the country cosdts a dollar and we have zero economy how many can we afford?
<Abydos313> Emil^ what about the 8 million illegals in LA alone. none of them are farm workers.. or at most a small percentage
<Emil^> why is it tho - that california is the state which opposes most ardently seasonal workers?
<dog3> there r not 8 million illegals in LA
<dog3> haha
<dog3> there r only 3.8 million ppl
<|Glitch|> dog3: Maybe he meant Lower Alabama. :)
<Abydos313> i heard that statistic somewhere recently
<Emil^> california sadly has the most to gain via illelgal workers
<Kool-Aid> dog3, illegals aren't people really.
<Alton> The answer is that we can afford none at any price if we are not producing. We don't have some "right" to be wqealthy because we are Americans.
<Lotec> dog3, do you even have a green card?
<tweek> illegals are teh lesser race!1!1!
<Kool-Aid> It's tragic that some mistake illegals as being people
<tweek> heil!!1
<|Glitch|> Abydos313: Consider the source. Los Angeles only has a population of 10 million, total. 80% are not illegal immigrants.
<tweek> you dirty commies, acknowledging that illegal immigrants are still human...
<tweek> ****, what are you ON.
<Abydos313> my badd :)
<Emil^> illegals we front on - righfully so - but we fail to realize who wants them here the most
<ErrorF002> I know tweek is joking.... but is Kool-Aid?
<dog3> haha yeah i have a gren card
<dog3> green card
<tweek> probably not. a lotta Nazis this time of night...
<dog3> hrmm it expires soon
<tweek> it's my job to mop the floor with 'em.
<ErrorF002> sweet
<tweek> they're pussies anyway. the most they can do is whine for their freedom to whine.
<Abydos313> it feels like 8 million. have you been on the 405 lately..heh
<Emil^> tweek - hate who you want - but you have to realize the companies who fight to keep these illegals here
<dog3> yeah the 405 is a mess
<ErrorF002> tweek is that why mom says not to go out at night?
<dog3> all those illegals in their damn benzes clogging it up
<|Glitch|> Abydos313: I might buy 8 million illegal aliens currently in the US, but not in one city.
<tweek> ErrorF002: nah, Nazis are harmless. stupid, though.
<dog3> @ least they don't drive escalades like the black ppl
<Emil^> i hate illelgal immigration - but who is stopping these folks from being an americans reality??
<Abydos313> |Glitch| i know for damn sure there are million plus in LA..
<Emil^> i hate illelgal immigration - but who is stopping these folks from being an americans reality??
<Kool-Aid> Yeah, you consider any conservatives as nazis. That's just plain said
<tweek> three repeats.
<Emil^> tweek - sure boot me
<tweek> nah, I mean, real ****ing Nazis.
<ErrorF002> dog3 lets make new lanes on the 405 with the bodies of illegal aliens
<ErrorF002> two birds one stone
<Emil^> tweek - did you finally read my point tho?
<dog3> most modern "conservatives" are really social nationalists
<dog3> well
<tweek> like, they claim that aborigines aren't human and that the Holocaust never happened.
<dog3> i dunno mayb not most, but certainly the loud ones
<tweek> just wait for a bit and they'll come out.
<ErrorF002> tweek I am with you on that
<|Glitch|> ErrorF002: That would give the "Diamond Lane" a whole new meaning. Hehehe
<dog3> ne1 who's a "republican" and whines about "price gouging" certainly isn't a normal conservative
<ErrorF002> |Glitch| ROFL
<Emil^> the sad sad fact - is american industry DEPENDS on illellgals
<ErrorF002> Emil^ yup
<Emil^> this is what americans dont want to talk about
<ErrorF002> its the dirty little secret
<ErrorF002> and Congress knows it
<dog3> the american economy also depends on borrowed money, borrowed time, not just borrowed ppl
<tweek> dog3: same thing goes with people who claim to be GOP and also attempt to restrict the market...
<ErrorF002> and few want to tackle it because its easier to maintain the status quo on the issue.
<dog3> tweek isn't that what i said? :)
<tweek> ... err, yeah.
<ErrorF002> dog3 AMEN
<tweek> you gop?
<dog3> but isn't that most republicans... @ least the ones that are "politicians"?
<dog3> i'm a 4eigner
<dog3> hehe
<dog3> & no, i don't believe in politics
<KN> was on phone sorry
<ErrorF002> dog3.... GET OUT
<tweek> I meant, there's a guy that has a nick of gopp
<dog3> cuz i am 2 conservative 4 that :)
<ErrorF002> We are America... we don't need 4eign imput :-)
<dog3> modern politics is just a mixing of different brands of socialism
<|Glitch|> ErrorF002: I drove the 405 for years from Reseda to Long Beach. Now that I live in Alaska when they call a 4 block traffic backup a "traffic-jam" it cracks me up. :)
<tweek> |Glitch|: not their fault if nothing happens in their barren wasteland, ever.
<ErrorF002> |Glitch| I live in miami and visit LA alot... I find it hilarious what they call.."driving rain"
<tweek> they clearly need better highways.
<dog3> error we had inch-sized hail last yr
<dog3> last week i mean
<dog3> on monday
<dog3> i never saw nething like that round here b4
<dog3> it was so dark it looked like Armageddon
<ErrorF002> its Global warming
<dog3> @ 2 p.m.
<KN> inch sized?
<KN> lol global warming
<dog3> yeah, global warming & ice cubes r comin from the sky.. makes sense
<ErrorF002> totally
<Lotec> I've seen hail bigger than softballs
<|Glitch|> ErrorF002: When it rains in Los Angeles (typically only in December and March), it really pours. Unlike Alaska, where it just drizzles.
<dog3> well i know there's places where u get hail like that
<dog3> but in l.a.?
<dog3> yeah the l.a. river moves @ 100 mph when it's really goin
<ErrorF002> its sign of the apocolypes, grap your bible, and vote republican, and everything will be ok
<KN> lol
<KN> i started out really conservative but these days im increasingly put off by their morally superior bull****..
<Lotec> When I was in college I saw a dumb*** try to run out in a hailstorm with nothing but a book over his head. Got his fingers broken, dropped his book, got knocked out
<Rockfish> Well a Republican senator won almost 400,000 dollars in the lottery Wednesday so God just may be a Republican
<ErrorF002> the morally superiour part isn't what bothers me. its the amoral positioning of all others that does.
<|Glitch|> ErrorF002: Coincidentally, both Anchorage and Los Angeles have the same annual precipitation at 13". Half of that is in the form of snow in Anchorage, and 1" of precipitation equates to 1 foot of snow.
<tweek> never understood the 'God = chance' argument.
<tweek> or concept. or ... whatever you want to call it.
<Alton> KN--conservatism isn't about a religion or morally superior bull****
<KN> it seems to be ***ociated with it though
<KN> conservatives are by and large christians
<KN> are by and large 'moral'
<tweek> ***holes like Jack Thompson need to be severely beaten.
<|Glitch|> Alton: True. I've very conservative and anti-religious. :)
<tweek> then flogged.
<tweek> then beaten some more.
<tweek> then thrown out of the GOP.
<KN> jack thompson is a ****head
<tweek> then their bodies burned.
<tweek> then flogged some more, while dead.
<Rockfish> Tweek, who the hell is Jack Thompson, you seem to be obsessed with him and I've never heard ot him
<tweek> then drowned.
<|Glitch|> I've = I'm
<tweek> then hung.
<tweek> then beaten some more.
<ErrorF002> anyone see Bill O'Reilly on the Daily Show this week?
<KN> hes this idiot who tries to bring down the video game industry
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