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<roster> however what u wanna bet you can crack ur browser
<Lotec> www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/
<roster> ;)
<squidink> the internet shouldnt be the wild west, but it shouldnt be the <insert political fundamentalist group here> controled zone, either.
<arcade> squidink: Now, when it comes to child porn and so forth - it's already forbidden. If such a server is discovered, then of course it should be raided.
<tortus> so far. the us has not restricted the internet much. the us occasionally explores taxation on the internet.
<Emil^> we all know this is what is desired - the world thinks we're too stupid or inferior to have control
<squidink> arcade: agreed.
<arcade> squidink: But I don't want *more* wiretaps and surveilance on the Internet, than in the rest of society.
<tortus> the obscenity is already regulated, in the country of origin
<squidink> again, agreed.
<squidink> i dont even like the idea of taxing internet sales, honestly.
<Gazpacho> squidink: why shouldn't it be the wild west?
<tortus> then we have the whole privacy thing,
<Emil^> again i state - if you hate the net so much - we've given you free reign to create your own
<roster> if the world could prove it was in control.....it wouldnt need law enforcement
<tortus> three issues: consoring, privacy and commerce
<Gazpacho> I mean, goatsecx is pretty damn wild
<roster> the problem is the govt doesnt know because it upholds the right to privacy
<arcade> Anywyas .. on to another topic .. Why does so much of the US hate the french? :)
<squidink> Gazpacho: you'd like it to be like the wild west? so its ok then, if i dont like you, to break into your computer, steal private files, and use them to ruin you?
<tortus> these are wateres the un shouldnot be wading into
<squidink> arcade: because the french keep doing offensive things.
<Emil^> if your country hates our technology so much - it's your job now to do what you think best
<Gazpacho> squidink: you can do that now.
<tortus> the un can barely keep up with what it should be doing
<Dwaine> UN lol
<roster> again people make UN's and govt
<squidink> Gazpacho: not legally, which was my point. you like semantics a lot, huh?
<arcade> squidink: Like?
<Emil^> if the WWW (us creation) is so evil - shut up and do somethign about it
<roster> not an island unto themselves
<Emil^> make your own web
<tortus> the internet is bigger than the ww, isn't it?
<Emil^> it's free!! hell yes
<squidink> arcade: airbus.
<Dwaine> www is a US creation? wtf
<arcade> squidink: Boing.
<arcade> squidink: What more? ;)
<roster> AT&T
<roster> in the 50's
<Gazpacho> squidink: why don't you say what you mean? there are plenty of things on the internet that are "wild" and not covered by that narrow case
<Gazpacho> squidink: like furries
<roster> tcp/ip was used in govt office for 40 years before it was released to the public like mashed potatoes
<Dwaine> the internet is beyond control.. thank god
<squidink> Gazpacho: i dont think you understood my comment at all, or understand the comparison to the wild west.
<arcade> roster: bull****.
<tortus> internet was born in the us, and now it is considered a global resource. the problem is, the globe may not have the wherewithal to keep it alive
<Emil^> gazpacho- the internet will never be safe unless - you give us your standards.........
<Gazpacho> squidink: your comparison was not very good fyi
<Dwaine> safe?
<Dwaine> wtf
<Emil^> gazpacho- we have to have someone liek you to tell us what we need
<squidink> Gazpacho: yes it was, you just don't understand what it means.
<Dwaine> the internet is not a school zone
<Emil^> gazpacho - without you we're just lost and hopless
<Gazpacho> Emily16: shut up
<squidink> Gazpacho: the wild west was wild be cause it was lawless, not because it was filled with "wild" things
<Gazpacho> Emil^: shut up
<tortus> dwaine: well said
<Emil^> gazpacho - well keep on telling us what we have to have
<squidink> brb. pie.
<Gazpacho> Emil^: I hate your name, and I hate you
<Dwaine> is this a left wing commie channel? why the whining?
<Emil^> gazpacho - i think you're cute to
<Gazpacho> and I hate your face
<RainDog> Nice ***, though.
<tortus> its the "arrogant american" channle at times
<Gazpacho> now sod off
<Emil^> gazpacho - stop attacking me and address the issues plz
<Gazpacho> Emil^: which issues? September? August?
<Gazpacho> mmm Miss August
<Gazpacho> look at these jugs man!
<Emil^> gazpacho h- well your'e not cute enough to have a month named after you - but explain to us our stupidity plz
<Dwaine> burp
<tortus> the us walks on the moon, and there is world hysteria about militarizing space. the us outsources, and there are calls for stopping the imperialism. the us wires up on computers, and there is global consternation.
<Gazpacho> Emil^: what
<squidink> cut down on the ad hominims.
<Emil^> gazpacho - explain to me your hostility plz
<Gazpacho> Emil^: what
<Dwaine> omg.. another loop
<Dwaine> every time I come here it is dejavu
<arcade> tortus: Well, one thing that shold be noted, the development of the internet hasn't only happened in the US.
<Gazpacho> Dwaine: who the heck are you?
<Dwaine> must be AI bots
<arcade> tortus: The US has certainly done big things for the internet, but so has other parts of the world.
<Dwaine> who are you Gazpacho
<Gazpacho> I'm BATMAN
<Dwaine> figures
<tortus> arcade:P right. because, the internet is open
<Lotec> arcade, you guys may have built a nice hood ornament, but it's our car
<arcade> tortus: Yups.
<tortus> there are no restrictions on who can join. no sign up fees. no cybertariffs
<Dwaine> cars are lame icons
<tortus> that is the crime
<arcade> Lotec: Developed and made by many non-americans plus many americans.
<squidink> arcade: thats true, the primary technologies are mostly american funded and created, but the rest of the world has quite a bit more pipe laid. Japan for example, probably has twice the amount of pipe then all 48 contiguous.
<Emil^> tort...........noooo.....you forgot to ask gazpacho's permission - he knows best
<Gazpacho> Emil^: what
<arcade> squidink: The primary part of the current internet - the web - was developed in europe
<tortus> emil: gaz would give me permission
<Dwaine> BUT is Japan earthquake proof, case rested
<arcade> squidink: IRC, which you're currently using, was developed in Finland (also europe).
<Dwaine> omg
<squidink> arcade: what are you reffering to as the primary part of the internet?
<Gazpacho> arcade: only a very small part of today's web
<Dwaine> more random non fgacts
<Emil^> tort - did you ask his permission before you took credit for the creation of the internet?
<Gazpacho> arcade: it didn't even have images
<arcade> Gazpacho: I was talking about the protocols. ;)
<Gazpacho> only a very small part of today's protocols
<Dwaine> the interweb is fun, it has nekkid girls
<arcade> Gazpacho: Indeed, but that is also the case for most of the rest of the internet.
<arcade> Gazpacho: Parts of it has been developed in the US, parts of it in other countries.
<arcade> Gazpacho: The US was the 'father' of the Internet (well, Vint Cerf was, anyways ;)
<tortus> there was no complaining about who did what on the internet until the un made a ploy to regulate it
<Dwaine> it is a global conspiracy
<Dwaine> the UN can do nothing
<Gazpacho> arcade: I'm not that impressed with Cerf
<arcade> tortus: **** the UN and their want to regulate it. I just get a little bit pissed when some americans claim they've made _most_ of the internet.
<Dwaine> the NWO can shove it
<Gazpacho> arcade: he gets the attention now because he's alive, and Postel doesn't because he's not.
<tortus> the internet has always been considered a huge endeavor by countless people. most of it free
<arcade> Dwaine: heh, looking at where I'm online from ;D
<tortus> arcade: the backbone is us
<squidink> arcade: im referring to the core technologies the internet was built around, also we can't forget that the world's primary OS is american developed. Even linux, which started out finnish, has heavy american contribution, of course, a lot of this is because america produces a lot of programmers.
<arcade> tortus: Some of the backbone, yes. :) (Well, most, if not all, tier-1 providers ;)
<tortus> yeah
<Emil^> arcade - how do you think amermican feels when you think you have the RIGHT to claim control over something you had basically jack **** in development
<Gazpacho> lunix is definitely a world endeavor
<Dwaine> this is so screwed up.. you ppl are arguing a means to argue online
<Dwaine> totally fuctup
<arcade> squidink: Linux of course have american contribution, and finnish, and british, and norwegian, and brazilian, and japanese .. and .. and .. and. :)
<Dwaine> it's open source ...grow up
<arcade> squidink: And the world's primary OS doesn't run that large parts of the core internet. ;)
<Emil^> dwaine - my issue is the EU thinkinking they have the right to tell us how to manage this entitity we created
<Dwaine> the EU is yet another commie enviroment that is and will fail
<Gazpacho> Dwaine: we're arguing over a means for people who get aroused by warner bros cartoons to meet like-minded people
<squidink> arcade: true, most of the internet is run on Unix. which is definately american. most websites are run on apache, which runs on linux, which wouldnt be where it is today without american commerical intrest.
<Emil^> arcaade has a brain at least..............a good one - he realizes there are point of contention
<Dwaine> I love WB cartoons
<Gazpacho> Dwaine: how much????
<Dwaine> not enough to comprimise my reality
<arcade> squidink: Linux would definately still be here without commercial interest.. not as big of course, but it would be here, and would be actively developed. Unix is indeed part american.
<squidink> arcade: however, netscape and ie were both american, and heavily influenced the development of the internet.
<arcade> squidink: Certainly, and Opera is norwegian ..
<Gazpacho> and opera has not
<arcade> squidink: And CSS and so forth have had heavy norwegian input.
<squidink> arcade: opera has less then 1% marketshare.
<arcade> Gazpacho: Except, of course, that CSS was heavily influenced by Operas founder.
<Emil^> europe just wants at times - and this is no lie -it appears that we are being hijacked
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