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<TimothyW> The whole Muzik Mafia is cool.
<occ2> like, if i saw "hardcoire porn" when i was 9, id just have been really embar***ed
<tnzr> FreeTrade: those guys were thinkers but they didnt have it right back then... and I certainly dont concede that any of the religions have it right today
<RustyFord> occ depends i geuss, if its michael jackson who is showing you, or if you are just looking on your own
<RustyFord> hahaha
<TimothyW> RustyFord : do you like the Muzik Mafia ?
<FreeTrade> Its about discipline vs no self control and hedonism often ending in suicidal frustration at life. Hunter Thompson never hid his hatred of life but he never go beyond the physical hedonistic culture.
<FreeTrade> so he blows his brains out.
<RustyFord> the what?
<FreeTrade> same with hemingway
<RustyFord> Tim the IRAA?
<TimothyW> RustyFord : Muzik Mafia =
<KoooK> FreeTrade, get rid of the playboy/stripclubs/sororities/frats/girl&boyscouts/mardigras society and you're on your way to raise to value of human body
<FreeTrade> Are you aware of the bhagavad Gita. ?:
<FreeTrade> Are you aware of the 8 fold path of buddhism ?
<Katey> I think Thompson was terminally ill though
<FreeTrade> Are you aware of happiness ?
<RustyFord> god damn it a ****ing seed
<FreeTrade> Are you content ?
<RustyFord> i hate seeds
<TimothyW> RustyFord : www.muzikmafia.com
<FreeTrade> Katey no he predicted decades earlier he would kill himself
<Null_Ptr> good grief koook is there anything you dont want to get rid of
<FreeTrade> he said openly he despised living
<occ2> my brother was a big hst fan
<RustyFord> i don't mind eatting them
<FreeTrade> he is a cult hero of negativism and nihilism
<Katey> FreeTrade, that may well be. But I'm pretty sure that he was terminally ill, or very ill.
<RustyFord> heheh but i hate smoking them hehe
<Katey> I recall reading that months before he died
<occ2> hes not a hero of negativism and nihilism, really
<FreeTrade> Katey, He was a man who said he would take his life because he hated and despiseed living, that will make anyone ill.
<occ2> its more complex than that
<FreeTrade> A person should meditate if only for 2 minutes a day.
<FreeTrade> it will clear away the accumulated crap
<KoooK> Null_Ptr: I just point to problem areas.
<FreeTrade> Help keep you healthy
<Null_Ptr> koook so what's not a problem area
<FreeTrade> Well Got to go, Later :) Speaking of healthy, Chinese dinner sounds good tonight.
<occ2> yeah, thats GREAT for you ;)
<FreeTrade> occ, A cult hero for losers mostly.
<FreeTrade> yeah
<RustyFord> Koook, man you and Herzen and others seriously need to look into getting Civ4
<FreeTrade> thats reality
<FreeTrade> Like Scientology is.
<occ2> he was a good writer in some ways
<FreeTrade> another cult
<RustyFord> I geuss its MADE for multiplayer
<FreeTrade> Like Kabbalah as practiced by celebrities.
<occ2> haha
<occ2> i read the funniest ****
<occ2> madonnas new album has a sont in tribute to the founder of kabbalah
<FreeTrade> Britney spears because of Kabbalah is more enlightened than I who spent 20years on the path of enlightment. but this is thier belief.
<occ2> and these kabbalan monks were saying that madonna was just tryign to "cash in" on the monk's name
<RustyFord> madonna is being cursed out by some rabbis and the pope for some reason though
<RustyFord> i forget why
<occ2> as if the monk was better known than madonna
<FreeTrade> its like they can get spiitualism and wisdom in one meeting.
<RustyFord> something to do with her kid or something
<occ2> "lourdes"
<occ2> what is your kid, a christian martyr?
<Null_Ptr> madonna is a douche anyway who cares
<FreeTrade> I came to understand the title ( I never read the book) "If you see the buddha on the road kill him"
<FreeTrade> why ?
<RustyFord> Like a virgin!
<occ2> because eh isnt the buddha
<occ2> as i udnerstand it
<FreeTrade> The guru, the truth, Ultimately the Buddha is inside you.
<occ2> i never felt that was a good analogy
<strider_> touch for the very first time..
<occ2> hehe
<Katey> occ2, yes
<Null_Ptr> there is no buddha
<RustyFord> I could see Null dressed up in a mini skirt and leg warmers
<occ2> a good KOAN, if you will
<Null_Ptr> those who say otherwise are lying
<Null_Ptr> or misinformed
<Herzen> **** i'm bored
<RustyFord> you know whats sad?
<KoooK> you?
<occ2> schindler's list?
<FreeTrade> Now I dont expect anyone to understand. But when you stop looking for emlightement you are close. And when you admit that you just dont know those questions which men have wasted lives trying to and claiming to know..
<strider_> the land before time was sad
<RustyFord> wouldn't it be wierd to find out that all religion ends up eventually evolving into a "bhudda" philosophy
<occ2> i saw that in the theater with my mom
<Herzen> whats "bhudda"
<FreeTrade> When you can say I dont know, I dont see any god, I dont see any guru or teacher. And its ok..
<RustyFord> or into a hindu philosophy i should say
<Null_Ptr> ft is this your like zen for dummies lesson
<FreeTrade> that is enlightment or the road to it.
<FreeTrade> Null its not zen even
<occ2> FT, did you just say that you "dont expect anyone to understand"?
<RustyFord> like i can see judaism christianity and islam eventually crossing roads and becoming one religion
<FreeTrade> its just that people you dont have to know or understand the questions which drive people for meaning
<DrFreud-> called Judaism ;)
<KoooK> brb
<FreeTrade> There doesnt have to be meaning.
<DrFreud-> heheheh
<CometBaby> Watching Discovery and they are hiring female bartenders for this bar Coyote Ugly. You have to look, act and dress like a total slut. The girls are in huge, long lines applying for this job.
<tnzr> RustyFord: its going to be riddled with potholes and road construction though
<RustyFord> and then there will be one guy who is given all the credit for that and bringing together all religions
<FreeTrade> Just be...
<RustyFord> and then they grow multiple arms
<RustyFord> and eyes
<Null_Ptr> rusty in actuality religions diverge, rather than converge. over time, more and more factions develop over stupidity and arguments about nothing.
<RustyFord> and become vishnu about 4000 years down the road
<FreeTrade> And remember Garbage in Garbage out, Same for your mind.
<FreeTrade> and spirit
<tnzr> CometBaby: dumb chicks have to make a living too :\
<occ2> wow, just lik in that movie, "Coyote Ugly"!
<CometBaby> And they show this girl sobbing because she was *cut* from the list. "Omigod I thought I had it. It was my dream"
<Herzen> I think indian spirtuality, and indian spiritual medicine
<RustyFord> Null i think it would be more safe to say that its a "pulse"
<Herzen> like that Chakra stuff
<Herzen> is nonsense
<Herzen> complete nonsense
<RustyFord> it flows back and fourth
<occ2> Reiki Healing
<CometBaby> now there is a goal for a woman. To be a bartender at Coyote Ugly. Uh huh.
<occ2> call out the NOW, Comet :)
<Katey> CometBaby, that movie, Coyote Ugly?
<Null_Ptr> CometBaby not everybody is going to be ceo, a lot of them are the female equivalent of guys who work on the roads
<Null_Ptr> they gotta do something
<CometBaby> Katey its the real bar from the movie. I never saw the movie tho.
<TimothyW> CometBaby : Future Desperate House Wive club ?
<Null_Ptr> and they're being realistic
<RustyFord> Comet isn't that where Twobar is working ? ;)
<Katey> That's one of several movies that have come out in the last 20 years or so that just seem so pointless I can't figure out why anyone bothered to make them
<FreeTrade> This is why I dont watch porn, and why I dont indulge myself in pleasure. Of course I experience pleasure but its not the goal. its a means to an end whic is contentment both in happiness and sadness,. When you can overcome the 3 Gunas you will understand. (See Bhagavad Gita for reference), and dont buy it from that Swami nut.
<tnzr> worst movie ever... and what lowlife would pay a premium for drinking in a bar like coyote ugly...
<Katey> "Cocktail" is another one
<Katey> "Days of Thunder"
<Katey> etc
<CometBaby> timmy these gals are never going to become housewives. They would never stay married. They are gonna spend their lives hopping on anything sticking out.
<Katey> who cares?
<Herzen> Katey, I feel the same about almost every "Chick Flick"
<tnzr> CometBaby: whats wrong with that
<RustyFord> Comet and maybe if i am lucky enough i will be one of them!
<Herzen> I once watched about half of "Green Fried Tomatos"
<RustyFord> ;)
<tnzr> if thats what they want to do?
<CometBaby> hahaha
<RustyFord> hehehhahaha JUST kidding
<CometBaby> you pigs :)
<Herzen> and I was just like "Omfg, just talk and you can solve your problems like rational people"
<Herzen> Its Hockey night in Canada tonight
<Herzen> =D
<FreeTrade> Comet they die with empty miserable lives, usually before there time by overdose or something else. We reap what we sow, you dont have to believe in god to recognize some truths.
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