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<haku> yah totally why not
<Linus-> Nemes, if cars are stopped, ok
<bmc> and if i put you in a ditch
<Linus-> or going like 10mph
<bmc> its your fault
<haku> omg it's illegal!
<Linus-> but at 65mph?
<bmc> i wont be the one hurt
<bmc> i wont be the one killed
<haku> yah totally
<gopp> Linus- talk to me
<bmc> ill be the one with a scratch in my paint job
<Nemes> bmc, how you gonna do that
<haku> bmc you sound like an old woman lolz
<Nemes> unless youa actually try to
<Nemes> on purpose
<bmc> exactely
<goppp> taxis in nyc don't respect
<goppp> the worse
<bmc> dont insult me
<haku> yah some people actually try to kill you when ur on a bicycle
<bmc> by pretending you are better
<Linus-> i knew this guy was gonna get clipped one day
<Nemes> bmc, you couldnt catch them man
<haku> it's really sad
<bmc> and i wont have to show you that you are not
<Nemes> if a bike is coming up behind you and wanting to apss you, by the time you realise it they're p***ed
<Linus-> and sure enough, i encountered him probably near death, likely within a minute or two of him going down
<bmc> i could go on the shoulder, in the gr*** and go around traffic also
<bud```> gopp heh im an ex cabbie, and if your a dumb*** in a minivan just oblivious to other drivers on the road i will disrespect you, cut you off, tailgate, anything
<bmc> why dont i?
<bmc> because its illegal
<Nemes> unless its a traffic jam and the cars are moving slowly or stationary
<Linus-> nem, that's simply not true
<Linus-> if the bike is going 75 and I'm going 65, his rate of gain is small
<bmc> i see them all the time
<Linus-> he could be in blindspot for a second or more
<bmc> i inch towards the dotted lines
<bud```> minivan drivers are the worst.. i think the vehicles give them some sense of going faster than they actually are
<bmc> to try to prevent what i see getting ready to happen
<bmc> screw that ****, theyre nobody special, wait in traffic like everyone else
<Nemes> well yeah thats true -- but what I ams aying is, usually when a bike is nipping in and out of traffic, its jsuta couple of seconds and they're gone, unelss its as i said in a traffric jam
<haku> why wait in traffic when you dont have to?
<Linus-> Nemes, this guy went weaving for miles, even when traffic was moving smoothly
<goppp> Nemes they weave
<bmc> haku because you DO have to
<goppp> and can be killed
<bmc> as i said
<goppp> they think hey own the road
<haku> acually you dont have to
<haku> hehe
<Herzen> no koook ytet
<bmc> be prepared for overly defensive drivers such as myself
<Linus-> i mean, he had the use of the diamond lane
<bmc> it could cost you one day
<haku> if he had to he couldn't have done it
<Linus-> but chose to be a manimal
<haku> yah lol
<Nemes> goppp, i weave ina nd out of traffic all the time on my bike, motorists dont mind
<haku> you try to kill ppl on motorcycles
<Nemes> its just an advantage of having a bike
<bmc> i will not feel guilt if a biker loses his life driving like an ***
<haku> yeh
<haku> i do that on a bike all the time
<haku> bmc, you still going to jail!
<haku> :))
<Linus-> you guys have no bike lanes?
<bmc> just remember that
<RustyFord> I don't have to weave in my jeep
<bmc> haku haha, riiiight
<RustyFord> I just go OFF road =)
<Nemes> motorbikes dont get bike lanes linus :0
<haku> a lot of cities dont have bike lanes
<Nemes> just cycles
<Linus-> oh yeah, east coast
<Nemes> no UK
<haku> lol
<Nemes> :)
<Linus-> motorbikes can use the commuter lane though
<haku> i love to scare the **** out of people in their cars
<bmc> i have nothing againt motorcyclists, but that kind of crap annoys me
<Nemes> bicyles and buses get their own lanes in some cities in UK
<bmc> if a car did the same thing, i would feel the same way
<tortus> i usually just brake when i see a bicycle.
<haku> i just ride right out right in front of them sometimes and they honk their horns lol
<Nemes> motorbikes occupy the same lanes as the rest.
<tortus> they are unpredictable
<bmc> its equal to a car driver going on the shoulder and in the gr*** to go around traffic
<bud```> Nemes not bloody many
<Linus-> well, we don't have bicycle on the freeway ;)
<bmc> screw that
<bmc> ill put em in a ditch
<haku> lol
<haku> put them in a ditch if you want
<haku> ull go to jail
<Nemes> bud```, yeah there are not to many i agree
<haku> hehe
<Linus-> a 6 foot ditch?
<bmc> Linus- its in gods hands
<haku> was it really worth it bmc?
<bmc> :P
<bud```> london roads so overwhelmed and strained now they charge you a 'congestion' tax if your driving into the region
<haku> you seem to have a weird sense of justice
<Nemes> yup
<Nemes> tolls
<bmc> i wouldnt get in trobule, at all
<Linus-> bmc, at least buy them their own plot
<haku> omg that guy on a bike is breaking a traffic law
<bmc> its breaking no law
<haku> im gonna kill him
<haku> !
<Nemes> i havent been to london though in a long while
<bmc> im not gonna kill him
<bmc> theyre gonna kill theirselves
<haku> hehe
<bmc> and im gonna watch
<haku> nah, actually you gonna get put in prison hehe
<haku> nice try though :)
<tortus> i was pulled over on my bicycle once for riding against traffic
<bmc> in prison for what?
<Linus-> <bmc> ill put em in a ditch
<tortus> i was thinking i could see the foe better that way
<bmc> if i hold my ground, defend my lane
<bmc> and they fail to p*** me
<bmc> thats not my fault
<Linus-> <bmc> Linus- its in gods hands
<bmc> they are not allowed to use the lines as a travel lane
<haku> lol
<Linus-> you stated you inch towards the lines
<bmc> right
<bmc> i do
<bmc> IN MY LANE
<bud```> i was pulled over on my bike once for just being on a bike at 1am, then threatened to be given a DUI ticket. the irony, I didnt even have a drivers license yet and I was gonna lose it
<bmc> what law am i breaking?
<RustyFord> bmc is a moron
<Linus-> that's not holding ground, that's fighting over easements!
<bmc> its called lane postition
<bmc> if a big rig is in the opposite lane, i will inch towards the outer white line
<Linus-> you're intention is to cut them off at the p***
<haku> lol
<Linus-> your
<bmc> Linus- yes
<bmc> that is violating no law
<Linus-> and put them into a ditch
<Linus-> and then its in gods hands
<Nemes> bmc, I have ehard yousay you dont pay taxes and do allsorts of illegal **** lol, so why take exception to this one issue of motorbikes weaving?
<Nemes> is it a pet hate?
<bmc> yes
<Nemes> hehe
<bmc> it erks me
<haku> you know you can get in trouble for killing someone even if you didnt intend to right?
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