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<tortus> people get care at the er, and govt picks it up, and the govt pays for it anyhow
<Linus--> KoBushi, and possibly rampant inflation
<bmc> yea but its the ER
<bmc> it ****s
<Katey> MadScribe, I think Yang's productivity would be pretty ****ty on a 120 hr. work week
<haku> how about everyone pays for their own healthcare?
<KoBushi> Linus-- nah, it would actually cause deflation.
<Linus--> i disagree
<KoBushi> if anything
<MadScribe> Katey: that's why CX717 will be needed
<KoBushi> but, inflaction doesn't really matter when no one keeps thier money
<tortus> bmc: but that is where you go if you have no money. everyone knows it. we have all known it for years
<bmc> haku nobody that isnt making $300k/yr+ could afford it
<Katey> MadScribe, even with drugs
<TheTailor> Newt, pro health insurance reform, pro boarder reform, pro balanced budget, NEWT FOR KING!!
<Linus--> it seems silly to pay taxes on purchases then make them tax deductible
<Katey> MadScribe, people aren't machines
<KoBushi> inflation only effects those who save money.
<Katey> If they're miserable their productivity turns to ****
<KoBushi> Linus-- no, you still pay th 3% sales tax... but you don't pay any income tax on the money you spent on the product
<Linus--> they're talking about rescinding the mortgage interest write off
<TheTailor> heh, he's the only one that mentions the border
<bmc> i would rather be taxed for health care and know its available than pay out of pocket if it wer equal in cost
<Linus--> and noone seems to be up in arms
<bmc> otherwise ill just pay cash
<Katey> Linus--, seriously?
<Katey> ack!
<bmc> or not get health care
<Linus--> others mention the border
<Linus--> Katey, yes
<Katey> Linus--, to deal with the budget?
<KoBushi> Linus-- it's not silly, it's purposeful to get people to spend thier money instead of saving it.
<Linus--> in desperate attempt to stem deficit growth
<MadScribe> Katey: you'll learn to be one
<Katey> Linus--, any mention of cutting the pork off of that highway bill?
<MadScribe> we'l have no choice
<Linus--> KoBushi, saving is a good thing!
<bmc> screw highway bills
<tortus> the problem with people accessing non emergency care at the er is, they are using a very expensive facilityl er's are required to have staffing levels and equipment that a regular dr office is not required to have
<MadScribe> er we'll
<KoBushi> Linus-- no for the economy!
<KoBushi> not*
<bmc> look at what the government does
<Katey> MadScribe, I don't think it will work
<Linus--> avg american is saving at a -1% rate
<bmc> new and improved ways of making money
<MadScribe> and the wonderful thing for employers is, they won't have to give any raises
<Linus--> meaning, we're not
<bmc> we dont need health care NOOOOOOOO
<KoBushi> Linus-- saving money is good for the indavidual, but BAD for the economy as a whole.
<bmc> we need to move trucks faster
<bmc> make more money!
<bmc> :P
<Katey> MadScribe, where is this happening?
<MadScribe> almost 3x the work, same money
<tortus> that er use is just the market working. the water seeking its level etc
<Linus--> Katey, it got shot down already
<Katey> sounds like science fiction to me
<Linus--> the anti-pork
<tortus> the problem is the govt policy, not the healthcare
<MadScribe> Katey: probably w/i in the next few years, one sec
<Katey> Linus--, yet they want to kill a program that helps drive the housing market?
<Linus--> KoBushi, noone is saving money
<Katey> stupid
<MadScribe> http://www.cortexpharm.com/html/news/05/05-02-05.html
<Linus--> Katey, it seems to be under the radar
<MadScribe> reading the write up in SA it sounds promising
<KoBushi> Linus-- oh, so your complaint about CEOs hording money was just bull**** then?
<Linus--> so they'll fly it til it hits page one i guess
<bmc> give me free health/dental care and i will drive on dirt roads :P
<bmc> they can scrap any highway funding for the state
<Katey> Linus--, well somone needs to start ranting about it
<KoBushi> Linus-- how much more money would be in the economy if Bill Gates spent his entire fortune every year?
<Linus--> i don't mean hording as in sitting on it
<Katey> Linus--, I can't believe the dems would let that opportunity slip by
<Katey> the commercial practically writes itself
<Linus--> i meant as in not distributing it more fairly amongst empoyees
<KoBushi> Linus-- oh, so yu must mean "hording" as... somethin that can't possibly be defined as "hording" :P
<KoBushi> hording is gathing and keeping Linus--
<bmc> bill gates is a good example
<tortus> ifyou are poor, you cnnot get a free filling in most places. but if you wait, you can get the tooth pulled on an emergency basis. the extraction is more expensive, this is how the market responds to goofy policy
<gopp> Linus-- what ceo horde money
<bmc> there is no reason one person should hold that much wealth
<bmc> he must be stopped!
<Katey> MadScribe, well, I don't think we'll see this come to p***.
<KoBushi> bmc why?
<Linus--> if you want to debate on merit, fine; if you want to descend to weak attempts at ridiculing, then look elsewhere
<bmc> thats just insane
<bud``> wahh wahh. bush has done as much as any chief executive of the land can do to encourage people to move from renters/employees into ownership and business.
<bmc> you have people straving in the streets and this guy is hording billions in unused wealth
<bmc> starving*
<Katey> bmc, you're a commie
<Katey> :)
<Linus--> that's the old hording :)
<Linus--> before investment brokers
<bmc> i can see putting away a nest egg
<MadScribe> this is going like everything else "Concept" - People say "That'll never happen." -> Refinement and testing - "People will never allow that" -> next comes deployment - "oh ****, i had to pull a 130hr work week again, at least i got 10hrs overtime"
<KoBushi> Linus-- well you eiher missused the word, or are simply lieing as to what you meant.
<bmc> bu $60 billion?!?!
<bud``> gates gives as much away as he can
<KoBushi> bmc much o his worth isn't liquid, it is by the value of what he owns in MS
<KoBushi> and Apple
<bmc> he should be getting soaked with taxes
<Linus--> if you still fail to comprehend what i meant even after i defined what i meant, and insist on pulling out dictionary.com and thwacking me over the head with it...
<KoBushi> bmc why? because you can't do what he did?
<bmc> no, because he has more money than one person could possibly use
<KoBushi> Linus-- your complaint makes no sense then. CEOs aren't spending money where you'd like them to be? Is that the complaint?
<Linus--> how about overallocating?
<Linus--> no
<Katey> MadScribe, *shrug*
<bmc> the government wants to take 30% of my money on some little pissy *** amount i would make
<bud``> bmc if that system was in place he would have had no incentive to pursue his goals and provide you with the **** you are using right now, and everyday
<bmc> and you have people sitting on billions
<Linus--> they're using employees pension funds to make self-serving inestments
<KoBushi> bmc guess what? they take close to 50% of his income
<Linus--> and not spreading the waelth fairly
<bmc> its not enough
<Linus--> not all, mind you
<bmc> 50% of his income isnt hurting him
<Linus--> and in fact, probably a minority
<Katey> MadScribe, even with meds to keep you awake, you NEED sleep
<bmc> 25%-30% of my income is
<tortus> gates could take zero income from ms
<KoBushi> bmc no it's not, you live with your mother
<Linus--> but its a black eye on capitalism
<MadScribe> Katey: reading the write up, right now that doesn't seem to be the case
<bmc> still have to pay rent
<bmc> who gives a **** where i live?
<bmc> i would still pay tax
<bmc> for what?
<bmc> when you have people sitting on billions of dollars
<bmc> take their ****
<KoBushi> bmc no, if you are not a depedant yur tax bracket changes
<bud``> Gates gives as much money away as he possibly can, and hes cool about it, the rest isnt liquid and he cant give it away
<tortus> ms is strangely csh rich
<bmc> when i have taxable income
<Linus--> a ceo is only as good as his workforce
<bmc> im not dependent
<bmc> cause i cant be claimed
<KoBushi> bmc yes you are
<Linus--> and many of them are too narcissistic to realize that
<MadScribe> Katey: it'll all come out in the wash, we'll see what the final result is, but even if you can only stay awake for 48hr intervals then have to sleep for 8, employers can still squeeze more out of you
<Katey> MadScribe, have they studied the effects of the 120 hr work week?
<bmc> its only if i draw no taxable income that i can be claimed as a dependent
<KoBushi> bmc no, that isn't true
<Katey> I see from what you linked me to that they deprived their subjects of sleep for 27 hours
<KoBushi> bmc as long as your mother provides 50% of your upkeep, you are a dependant
<KoBushi> reguardless of how much you make
<Linus--> you take a rolex and install crappy parts, its not a good watch despite the brains behind the design
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