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<CryArvach> what i will be doing though is closing down PC tonight though
<CryArvach> nomazda... SW FL
<nomazda> gotcha
<Null_Ptr> i dare lightning to strike me
<Linus--> i cannot rent an apt in a managed complex due to credit score
<Null_Ptr> it hasn't got me yet
<US-Male> once I was a single day late on a payment, I got them to cancel the late fee -- they knew if they didn't, I'd cancel the whole account
<CryArvach> Linus...that ****s...
<nomazda> ya.. i know charley, frances and jeanne very well
<bmc> oh if i were in FL id be in a good sturdy building
<Linus--> so i rent rooms in ppls homes
<bmc> :P
<Linus--> yes it does because id like to live by myslef
<Null_Ptr> US-Male but it still shows up on your credit. i've done that same thing.
<CryArvach> I at moment have opposite problem...
<bmc> it could still strengthen
<Linus--> and i have the income to afford it
<JanetB> CryArvach..........they are saying cat 2.. maybe cat 3
<US-Male> Null_Ptr, it may for a while
<Linus--> yet theyd rather rent out to some illegal who then moves in 12 relatives
<US-Male> my real estate agent told me that my credit rating is very high though
<Linus--> than to someone with a past eviction/foreclosure
<nomazda> CryArvach i was saying stronger storm for people on the east coast.. miami, ft lauderdale, palm beach area
<nomazda> i have a sister and an aunt in that area
<haku1> por linus lololololol
<US-Male> and never been denied a loan
<nomazda> they are poo-poo'ing this storm
<nomazda> 'no big deal' etc
<Linus--> I'm not feeling sorry for myself; I'm way past that
<JanetB> well Linus--.. what make them think you will pay them?
<bud``> Linus-- oh man i saw that ****, as a cab driver.. Id go pick up some radio call at an apartment, knock on the door, see 12 mattresses on the floor and a crucifix on the wall, take the mexican to his jobsite
<Linus--> but i do make a decent income now and would like to be accorded the chance to live where i choose
<Linus--> janet, past 10 years of on time rent payments?
<Null_Ptr> wait now it's 10 yrs on ontime ?
<Null_Ptr> i thought it was 5 earlier
<bud``> I admire mexicans, they work damn hard and live in ****ty conditions just to make life better for family
<US-Male> cat 3 means you take it seriously and follow all the plans in a strong building away from strom surge, it doesn't mean you must evacuate
<Linus--> bud``, and yet they continue renting to them, and deny me due to policy on past eviction
<US-Male> you can evac if that's better for you
<Linus--> no grudge against them getting husing
<JanetB> linus... nothing stays on a credit report more that 7 yrs except a bankruptcy which is 10 yrs
<Linus--> just seems a ludicrous policy
<randym> hi
<Linus--> janetb, that's not true i found out
<haku1> i sure as hell wouldn't rent to someone like you...
<Linus--> defaulting on credit cards w/o filing bankruptcy means 10 years
<nomazda> heh
<US-Male> hey they just changed the bankrupcty laws btw
<nomazda> well
<Linus--> haku1, can you go **** off now, or soon?
<haku1> what is the new bakruptcy law
<US-Male> heheh
<haku1> linus, no need to be vulgar
<nomazda> cant ya take their offer to settle and negociate to take the negative crap off your report?
<US-Male> new law, is tougher
<JanetB> linus... a bankruptcy is 10 years...
<Linus--> no need to keep taking unrequested shots
<haku1> how is the new law tougher
<JanetB> but the point it. if all this was 10 years ago.. your record shoulod be clean
<Linus--> its much more difficult to file bankruptcy for individuals
<US-Male> I am not totally clear on the new bankruptcy law -- in some csses you have to make payments now whereas before the debt would be wiped out
<haku1> man that ****s
<Linus--> and if you win, you still are obligated to pay much more now
<haku1> whats the point of making payments
<JanetB> under the new law, if you have an income you have to make payments
<haku1> why dont you just not make the payments
<Linus--> they can attach your wages
<CometBaby> Linus are your parents living? Do you have any sibblings?
<Linus--> mom is, 3 sibs
<CometBaby> and they wouldn't help you? Or had to tapped them out?
<Null_Ptr> the new bankruptcy law is that if you dont pay on time you have to give ***ual favors to the creditor daily until repaid
<Linus--> yet corporate bankruptcy is easier than ever
<Linus--> comet, my mom helped a bit, but it just went south so quickly i wasn't prepared
<CometBaby> oh brother
<CometBaby> now you are going to blame corporate bankruptcy?
<Linus--> i mean, if i had planned to scam them, i would have been prepared for their reaction if busted
<bud``> im getting crazy calls from a collection agency, over some stupid debt from 6 years ago, as many as twice a day now, cause they know its about to drop off my credit report. **** em. I'd care if it was my original creditor, but its not, some 3rd party company purchased the debt hoping to make profit off me
<CryArvach> go not to bankruptcy..unless there is no other choice...
<US-Male> I don't think it was made easier for corporations
<CometBaby> linus .. you didn't plan much at all.
<US-Male> not that I heard of
<Linus--> but innocently doing what i had done for months, and then having the credit ripped out form under me, was a shock i hadnt foreseen
<CometBaby> innocently?
<Null_Ptr> bud`` what you don't know is, they can sell the debt to another 3rd party, and the 3rd party can re-list the debt for an additional 7 yrs
<CometBaby> having the credit ripped out form under me?
<Null_Ptr> bud`` just you watch -- i'll bet they do this.
<Null_Ptr> bud`` it's perfectly legal.
<CometBaby> gawd you are really on your pity pot
<bud``> Null_Ptr im wondering about that, and watching my credit report, no info has changed.. we'll see
<CryArvach> null...regarding what...bankruptcy?
<Linus--> yes, writing a check with an outdated routing number i was unaware of
<TheTailor> He's in denial.
<Linus--> i wasn't intending to write a bad check
<US-Male> hey the Iraqi constitution vote went pretty well
<KoBushi> A 3rd party creditor purchased one of my debts that I had already paid off.
<CometBaby> but you did it
<KoBushi> And then were harrasing me about it
<Linus--> i thought intent was 9/10's of the law
<CryArvach> you paid it off.....what did they buy?
<Null_Ptr> CryArvach: when you don't pay a debtor and just wait 7 yrs for it to scroll of your record, on the last year they can sell it to another party, and the new party can re-list it with the original date being the date they bought it, not your original date, giving another 7 yrs.
<KoBushi> omg are you guys still taking about this? lol
<CryArvach> Null_ptr...depends...
<US-Male> Linus--, you can write some letters to that effect and send it to everyone involved.... strangely that helps
<CryArvach> 5 years is limit on many sorts of debt
<US-Male> they like having something in writing to explain what thye don't like
<Linus--> us, you ***ume i didn't take every tack
<US-Male> Linus--: no I'm saying now you could
<US-Male> if you didn't already
<Linus--> i was unemployed! i had plenty of free time to write, to call, to beg, to explain
<Null_Ptr> KoBushi yes the linus-- pity trip will still be going on when the hurricane hits fl
<Linus--> pity trip!
<Linus--> rofl
<Linus--> come along!
<Linus--> its one way
<Null_Ptr> no, you come along.
<Null_Ptr> join the rest of us here in reality-land.
<haku1> yah lol reality land
<haku1> we're having a pity party for linux
<KoBushi> reality or realty?
<KoBushi> :P
<Null_Ptr> :P
<CometBaby> Linus .. so you waited for someone to save you. Just like they did in new orleans.
<Linus--> is it not possible that avg americans find themsleves in credit hell due to an error, not by mismanagement or intent to scam?
<KoBushi> oh c'mon that was funny, screw you people! :P
<Linus--> that's never happened?
<US-Male> creditors don't like it when people are unemployed -- that was probably a big part of it
<KoBushi> Linus-- isn't an error a mistake?
<CometBaby> Linus .. enough of this. You need to go to #heartsandflowers
<CometBaby> lets drop this
<Linus--> us, they didn't care as long as min payment made it by due date
<CometBaby> linus I am going to devoice you if you don't stop whining
<JanetB> and if that happened, the company calls says your check did not process, and pay it that does not ruin your credit
<Linus--> an error due to lack of information from the bank
<IamKing> CometBaby: more like #theworldssmallestviolinplayingmyheartbleedsforyou
<KoBushi> one bounced check does not ruined credit make
<Linus--> period
<Linus--> the end
<CometBaby> I am really tired of listening to this "I was innocent" stuff.
<KoBushi> IamKing I'm an op there
<Null_Ptr> s/error/mistake/
<KoBushi> :P
<IamKing> KoBushi: hahahahah
<CometBaby> lol
<Linus--> comet, i know, you're holier than thou
<JanetB> whoa
<Linus--> i have to put up with this crap
<Linus--> but i can't fire back?
<CometBaby> linus .. nobody wants to listen to it anymore. Stop it. And don't blame me for being tired of the whining. It gets old. A half hour of it is more than ample.
<Null_Ptr> KoBushi is nihonto@nc-71-51-226-85.dhcp.sprint-hsd.net * Ash
<Null_Ptr> KoBushi on @#theworldssmallestviolinplayingmyheartbleedsforyou +#politics


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