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<pilgrim`> IamKing never trust media
<Disbelief> FreeTrade - yes, the afghan warloard cum northern alliance leader whom was ******inated by al qeada posing as journalists just a day prior to September 11th ? what about him?
<FreeTrade> This is a debate channel not an advocacy channel
<GayPower> i am p***ionate about my cause, FreeTrade, and it is a pressing issue
<pilgrim`> GayPower what cause? animal rights?
<GayPower> heh.
<IamKing> GayPower: go **** Barney Frank and get it over with...in either case, STFU ;)
<US-Male> hey hey now
<GayPower> ...
<pilgrim`> Shave the Whales!
<US-Male> maybe he's ok
<FreeTrade> Disbelief, he was a great man a great uniter of opposition, he was good to the people of afghanistan and had a reputation which none of us will ever earn (Likely)
<IamKing> US-Male: we know it's what GayPower's TRUE ambition is
<Disbelief> IamKing - that's a rather abusive statement, don't you think ?
<IamKing> he's in love with Barney Frank
<US-Male> I dunno -- Barney doesn't seem like he'd attract the boys
<TimothyW> GayPower : you like Tran***uals also ?
<pilgrim`> Free his death....911 curious juxtaposition
<hans_kung> Yah, homophobic statements are reasons for kick ban according to this channel's webpage. I've yet to seen it used though. Just a FYI :)
<IamKing> Disbelief: nah, quite appropriate :P when I smell troll, I use fire-based and acid-based weapons to make sure they don't regenerate after I kill them ;)
<GayPower> my true ambition is to end the needless misery and destruction caused by the US governments unconstitutional policies toward homo***uals
<FreeTrade> Gaypower, If you want to debate homo***ual policies I am fine with that, But it appears to me you are here to be a troll, YOu are here to incite ridicule. And I can not allow that.
<bud``> so move to utopia
<Disbelief> FreeTrade - "a great man" ? listen, he was a warlord whose interestes nicely alligned with us over other warlords.
<FreeTrade> Change your nick and debate politics or leave.
<Herzen> is that good enough for you?
<FreeTrade> Disbelief, you dont know the man
<GayPower> and your nickname isn't advertising your cause, FreeTrade? i am here to debate.
<hans_kung> Herzen: big whoop. :)
<Disbelief> FreeTrade - he was never in a position to "be good to the afghan people"
<pilgrim`> DisBellief oh. like say.... George Washington?
<GayPower> but i will change my nickname for you, FreeTrade, just so you'll be quiet
<GayPower> brb
<FreeTrade> I went on a tour (Virtual tour) with Frontline and him..
<Disbelief> pilgrim` - i don't think that comparison is valid.
<pilgrim`> a warlord who's interests dovetailed with other warlords
<pilgrim`> I do
<FreeTrade> And I have read a lot of background on this man, he was no common warlord.
<JanetB> you have to leave a channel to change nicks?
<FreeTrade> he was a national leader of the resistance to the arab government
<Disbelief> pilgrim - well in so far as they were both military leaders who violently opposed other military leaders over the issue of foreign dominance, i'd agree with that.
<US-Male> gawd dammit
<pilgrim`> what do you call feudal lords (slave holding agrarian fiefholders) who ban together against a Liege Lord?
<Disbelief> FreeTrade - "arab government" ?? where the hell are you getting that??
<FreeTrade> Gaypower, The point is You are welcome here to debate anything within reason, We have no anti gay policies here and if I find anti gay policies I will punish people. On the other hand if you want to throw blood or condoms at people to get attention I wont allow it.
<TimothyW> he left.
<hans_kung> Jim. He's dead.
<pilgrim`> Afghanistan, Magna Carta, US Rev. if it quacks like a duck, its a duck
<Disbelief> "throw blood and condoms at people" ?? haha
<Disbelief> what the hell does that mean.
<FreeTrade> Disbelief, who do you think Disbelief rand the afghan taliban govt ? It was usama bin laden and his johadists.
<Disbelief> FreeTrade - the Tablian were a product of Pakistan, which is not an arab country.
<FreeTrade> The Taliban leader was a puppet of Bin Laden and his deputies.
<pilgrim`> one coudl wear a merkin for protection
<Disbelief> the taliban's interpretation of Islam alligned with that of fundamentalist arabs.
<FreeTrade> ARAB
<Disbelief> but it was not an "arab government" as you're claiming
<FreeTrade> ARABS ran the government of Afghanistan if you can call it a government.
<IamKing> US-Male: it better not be used or I'm making you swallow this one!
<IamKing> heheheh
<US-Male> hahah
<KoooK> oh I have a question. it's not opinion by me. rather I want to hear some
<US-Male> guess!
<FreeTrade> And if you dont know that basic fact of history its poinstless to debate it with me.
<IamKing> KoooK: shoot :P
<KoooK> When people say the US can't leave Iraq now cos it would destabilize the country and bring civil war...Isn't that the same thing the USSR said about their prescense in Afghanistan? should they have stayed despite the calls to leave..?
<pilgrim`> ARAB? I thought you said Ahab and I was ready for a whale of an argument!
<KoooK> just off my head :P
<FreeTrade> Pilgrim ;)
<US-Male> KoooK, funny thing is now if Putin wanted to take over Afghanistan, we might say "OK:
<US-Male> time changes things
<KoooK> yeah..
<FreeTrade> Koook, No the Russians didnt care about afghanistan per se, unless it spilled over into russia or the soviets. The middle east is the most volatile region in the world.
<pilgrim`> time flys like the wind
<US-Male> thing is, Putin has his own problems
<pilgrim`> fruit flys like bannanas
<US-Male> luckily for us, Al Qaeda is dumb enough to tqake on the entire world
<US-Male> take
<JanetB> ummm Russia, wanted afghan to control, didn't it?
<FreeTrade> And i think that why europeans put in polls that they believed israel was a major cause of world instability, I think what they meant and correctly so was the middle east.
<Disbelief> FreeTrade - do you know who Mullah Mohammed Omar is/was ??
<pilgrim`> actually
<US-Male> thereby making Al Qaeda an enemy of Putin as well
<FreeTrade> Which is why it came out to Irael and non europeans as anti semitic, I think it was a misunderstanding of intent.
<pilgrim`> Russia wanted Afghanistan so that a pipeline could be built
<FreeTrade> At least I hope it was.
<KoooK> JanetB: under russia, afghanistan people had elections. it's kinda ironic
<US-Male> and he's not the type to back down
<JanetB> KoooK.. they did?
<bud``> usa armed afghhans against russians no?
<pilgrim`> and I gotta go
<FreeTrade> Disbelief yes but I am through with you we disagree on a major tenent of the debate so we cant get beyond it without resolution.
<IamKing> omfg...I can't believe the Eagles pulled out the win
<FreeTrade> And so we must part at this juncture to agree to disagree.
<Disbelief> Freetrade - you saying the taliban was an "arab government" is as wrong as saying the karzai government is an "american one"
<FreeTrade> No
<FreeTrade> Is aid it was ran by the arabs..
<Disbelief> yes. who was Mullah Mohammed Omar ?
<FreeTrade> It was ran by Bin Laden and his money
<US-Male> yo momma
<FreeTrade> He controlled mullah mohammad omar.
<Disbelief> <FreeTrade> he was a national leader of the resistance to the arab government
<US-Male> Mullah Omar was not breast-fed
<FreeTrade> Have you not seen the 100s of photographs with the two of them side by side ?
<Disbelief> did osama bin laden create the taliban ?
<Disbelief> allegiance is not dominance-servitude.
<tnzr> As we were driving, we saw a sign that said "Watch For Rocks." Marta said it should read "Watch For PRETTY Rocks." I told her she should write in her suggestion to the highway department, but she started saying it was a joke---just to get out of writing a simple letter! And I thought I was lazy!
<Disbelief> FDR and Churchill were allied, but did FDR 'control' churchill ?
<FreeTrade> Thre Arab government FIGURATIVELY, DONT ALWAYS TAKE THINGS LITERALLY, You could of asked for clarification.
<FreeTrade> I meant that usman bin laden and his al queda controlled the Official afghan leader.
<Disbelief> "figuratively" ?
<FreeTrade> And they did
<Disbelief> why don't you just retract your statement, because it was not an arab government.
<FreeTrade> They brought to afghanistan that which it didnt have, Lots of money and sharia law.
<FreeTrade> Brutal law.
<Disbelief> were arab jehadists exerting influence and allegience with the taliban, with whom they have a common ideal of islam ? yes
<US-Male> there should be a limit on the number of questions an ankle-biter is allowed to ask
<Disbelief> does that make it a 'figuratively arab government' ? no.
<KoooK> but also the US havent been all that long in Iraq, although media and people are quite impatient. My question would have been nicer 10 years in to it
<US-Male> Disbelief: do you ever say anything, or just pepper others with questions ?
<FreeTrade> No, They came there orignally in a holy war to fight the Soviets.
<bud``> Wilma strengthens and takes direct course for FL
<bud``> wtf
<Katey> I think it's been predicted for awhile that it would head for FL
<FreeTrade> But having came there they siezed the nation and controlled it and used it for training al queda troops estimates of troops trained there are in the 10s of 1000s
<FreeTrade> if not 100,000+
<hans_kung> Katey: like for a week.
<Katey> hans_kung, at least
<bud``> yeah it has
<FreeTrade> Katey, True
<bud``> but just ironic
<Disbelief> why's it ironic ?
<US-Male> there's another question.
<Disbelief> compared to 2004, florida has gotten off easy thusfar.
<FreeTrade> You know this is a natural hurricane cycle we should see for about a decade.
<bud``> cause no matter where in the region it forms or starts out, FL is like a magnet
<FreeTrade> I think this is year 3 is it not ?>
<FreeTrade> It historically repeats itself.
<FreeTrade> 2 months of the year
<Disbelief> FreeTrade - natural hurricane cycle? what's driving this natural cycle, do you think?
<FreeTrade> Disbelief, the same thing that drove it 1000 years ago
<US-Male> Bush killed the dinosaurs
<bud``> Disbelief yeah its almost as bad as the decade of storms in the 60's
<Katey> The water in the Gulf region is a few degrees above normal
<US-Male> of course! for their OIL
<IamKing> "The Point of Google Print" (straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak) http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2005/10/point-of-google-print.html
<Katey> That makes hurricanes strengthen
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