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<tweek> doubtful.
<RustyFord> I do
<occ2> infrastructure isnt there
<RustyFord> we have some of the worlds largest proven natural gas reserves in the world
<occ2> and nobodys gonna develop that when they're betting on hydrogen
<RustyFord> THATS the problem
<occ2> yeah, we have the gas
<RustyFord> but the more demand for it, the more infrastructure
<occ2> its making it available everywhere on the road thats the issue
<RustyFord> plus its clean
<occ2> yeah, but i dont see people buying NG vehicles
<RustyFord> I would
<occ2> its a gamble on the consumers part
<KoooK> in poland they like to drive their cars with natural gas
<unfounded> what kind of costs are we talking
<RustyFord> make a jeep on NG i would buy one in a heart beat
<unfounded> per gallon of gasoline equivalent
<unfounded> do they know?
<pilgrim`> internet good
<occ2> sure, maybe you would, but where are you gonig to fill up, if you're driving across the US?
<unfounded> i'd think gas would have to go up quite a bit to drive people to switch
<unfounded> like it'd have be significantly less $ / mile
<occ2> and its not THAT much cheaper
<RustyFord> hang on rolling cigarette
<pilgrim`> will you check the tires and oil please? and do the windows
<tweek> internet good, real life bad!
<occ2> there are NG filling stations in NYC
<occ2> but thats a localized economy
<occ2> its for taxis
<KoooK> there article on it http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5960905
<pilgrim`> Rusty I no longer smoke but, if you roll backwards it works better, I am not kidding
<KoooK> and pic of "pump"
<Estuary> Natural Gas is experiencing a rapid price increase anyway, so its use in automobiles anytime soon is unlikely.
<pilgrim`> most rollers tuck under with thumb, I tuck with fingers
<tweek> Estuary: that's a direct result of increased demand I'd think
<occ2> not at the consumer level
<RustyFord> hehhe 45$ to buy a carton of marlboros or 7$ to make my own each week
<RustyFord> and i got through marlboros like candy
<RustyFord> go
<occ2> i smoke marlboro milds
<Estuary> tweek - yes. we're burning it as fast as we can extract it.
<pilgrim`> internet good when I can look up my escrow acct today on a weekend and do not need to worry about taxes all weekend
<tweek> I dunno about that...
<occ2> marlboro was originally a women's cigarette ;)
<Estuary> also,we're totally dependent upon Canada for their nat. gas.
<RustyFord> i roll my own called "Criss Cross" under "Southern Cross"
<tweek> would have to actually look this **** up.
<tweek> you wouldn't want me to do that, would you...?
<RustyFord> its good tobacco
<pilgrim`> marble row....dedicated to former smokers...
<RustyFord> i got one of those machines and stuff
<occ2> rolling machines work great
<Estuary> tweek - demand has been unrelenting, whereas production has been flat or declining
<RustyFord> yeh
<pilgrim`> I quit 11 Aug 1999
<occ2> one day at a time, pilgrim!
<RustyFord> i smoke a light tobacco with a regular filter
<pilgrim`> before that I was a 2-3 pack/day
<Estuary> tweek - the US is in a bad natural gas situation, presently.
<occ2> i aim to quit in a few months
<occ2> its a stupid compulsion
<Estuary> smoking?
<occ2> yeah
<RustyFord> i go through about half a pack a day unless i am drinking
<tweek> y'know, since I technically work for a company that distributes the stuff, I should really know this :)
<occ2> i dont get any benefit from it, really
<Estuary> speaking of whihc, i witnessed an obviously pregnant woman smoking the other day.
<pilgrim`> I did and I put on weight, gained back my wind, learned *** is better, and have other things to do with my money
<RustyFord> when i am drinking i only smoke half cigarettes cause i can't roll them right
<Estuary> i pondered if it could be criminalized
<RustyFord> hahahaha
<tweek> omgomgomg!1!11!
<suna> gomgomgom1!1!!1
<KoooK> shaddap
<occ2> im still not clear on what effects smoking has on da feeetuz
<pilgrim`> I used to only smoke after ***, but 2 packs a day was killing me
<tweek> criminalized? - it's harmful to the kid, obviously, but ...
<suna> lol pilgrim
<occ2> having an orgasm makes you crave ****
<occ2> food and cigarettes
<RustyFord> hehehhehe
<KoooK> die
<occ2> its a dopamine thing
<JanetB> lets see, you can kill a baby with abortion but you can not smoke if pregnant hmm
<RustyFord> hehhe it was a bottle
<suna> it's harmful for the kid but so is eating a bunch of mcdonalds
<RustyFord> i don't drink out of cans
<Estuary> yeah
<tweek> JanetB: I knew someone would say it eventually
<occ2> canned beer > bottled beer
<JanetB> what happened to its her body
<occ2> "in theory!"
<bmc> what?
<RustyFord> i only drink bottled beer
<bmc> nonsense
<RustyFord> just like i won't drink tap water
<suna> there are enough people filling the courts who commit indisputed / non-controversial crimes, and they're getting 5 days for felonies because the jails are too full already
<unfounded> bottled beer is definitely better
<bmc> bottled beer > *
<suna> we don't need to add new crimes to the list
<occ2> its just that nobody cans good beer
<suna> :P
<unfounded> i always drink canned beer, i'm drinking busch light right now
<occ2> except for guinness mebbe
<Estuary> JanetB - apples and oranges. this woman was in her 8th month, at least.
<unfounded> but bottled beer is definitely better
<occ2> canned beer wont get skunked
<tweek> suna: good point.
<JanetB> est.. so what
<occ2> for example
<JanetB> it is her body
<RustyFord> occ the best canned beer in my opinion is Budweiser when its allowed to age for about 2 months by the keg
<occ2> theres no LAW against smoking while pregnant
<JanetB> and none of YOUR business
<bmc> neither will bottled beer if you keep it in the dark
<RustyFord> a good draft budweiser
<bmc> hence, dark bottles
<bmc> :P
<RustyFord> occ i love all beer but there is some i won't drink
<RustyFord> hehhee
<tweek> wonder why pro-lifers are so quick to ***ume that anyone else isn't...
<RustyFord> i have a friend who drinks coors light in a can
<RustyFord> that gives me the cold chills just thinking about it
<Lupine> that's no "friend"
<suna> the same reason religious people are so quick to ***ume every scientist's goal in life is to prove them wrong
<Estuary> Janet - firstly, i pondered. i didn't say it should be that way, so calm yourself down. secondly your caricatures of the pro-choice stance are pretty loopy.
<suna> i can't stand that attitude
<TimothyW> Budweiser is Evil.
<JanetB> my caricatures of the pro life stand> you do not even know my stands
<US_Male> when you drink Bud, you ride with Al Qaeda
<Lupine> the only reason why I like Busch.. is that they give it away for free at Busch gardens. Why can't Disneyworld/Universal/Sixflags be like that?
<TimothyW> The Beer is. The Company that makes it isn't.
<Estuary> JanetB - is it something other than "pro-life" ?
<occ2> everyone loves to rag on budweiser
<tweek> Lupine: I think there's, like, one place in Disneyworld that allows alcohol sales
<occ2> i call their taste into question
<tweek> and it's a somewhat exclusive club
<RustyFord> Tim hahahha
<JanetB> well here I thought there was a pro choice stand .. hmmm guess I imagined that
<Estuary> is that what you are?
<Herzen> Eh
<RustyFord> my other friend drinks labatts
<Herzen> Nothin wrong with being Pro-Life
<RustyFord> thas ok stuff
<tweek> JanetB: my point.
<occ2> labatt's blue is quite good
<Herzen> Dont' try to mock it up as if it is
<RustyFord> a little to sweet for me
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