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<gopp> make lots and lots of money
<DStewart> Also, tossing it into an empty goal is pretty wimpy. Make it necessary to CARRY the ball into the goal to score.
<gopp> in the soccer field
<gopp> then he makes more from niking
<gopp> and gatoriade
<likanoir> hi casador
<DStewart> And of course, the opposition team will be able to try to stop it.
<gopp> that only in america
<bmc> what bothers me about soccer
<US^Male> some Americans in the northeast watch hockey -- not much though
<DStewart> This is really beginning to take shape.
<bmc> is this 'no hands' rule
<gopp> in europa he makes more from other products
<US^Male> in cold climates
<bmc> its like a childs game
<surlly> I stopped watching Hockey when I moved from NJ to FL
<Herzen> KoooK, in the International Hockey League, Canada has 23 golds
<casador> hello likanoir, what's a nice grrl like you doing in a place like this?
<Herzen> USSR/Russia has 22
<Lupine> bmc: and contact is "penalties"..
<Herzen> Sweden 7
<US^Male> surlly yeah sounds about right
<KoooK> bmc, too advanced for you yanks
<bmc> "no hands children, come on itll be fun!"
<surlly> I was a die hard Islanders fan
<gopp> KoooK how much do top soccer player make
<gopp> Lupine thier club play lots of money
<gopp> for a player
<surlly> And Rangers too
<KoooK> gopp: about 10 million per year
<DStewart> bmc, don't forget... no losers and winners, cause losing makes Jonny feel bad!
<Lupine> bmc: I still subscribe to the sacrificial player. You get a big bruiser to break the leg of the opposing star player. Yea, he draws a personal foul and get ejected.. but now your team wins :-)
<gopp> KoooK that my point
<DStewart> So the final score is 0-0!
<casador> mike bossy rulz
<DStewart> What a great game!
<bmc> you dont lose
<surlly> CLarke Gilles
<bmc> you get a deferred victory
<Lupine> gopp: that's from 1/5 to 1/10th what Schumacher made this year in just salary
<gopp> KoooK how much did rondal make
<DStewart> And a gold star!
<DStewart> And a yummy ice cream cone.
<gopp> Lupine that is in euro
<gopp> Lupine then mike makes billion of rondal
<gopp> rondal and his contract is what
<gopp> european companies make money of him
<gopp> and the tv rights
<gopp> to watch him
<KoooK> beckham is 20 million/year
<bmc> thats a good comparison i think
<gopp> all matches
<Lupine> gopp: Michael is reported to make 50-100million euro's this year alone [ salary ], and he gets tons of endorsements
<Herzen> International soccer matches are bad***
<gopp> are ppv
<bmc> US/NFL EU/Soccer
<Herzen> I don't like the National league
<bmc> :P
<Herzen> like British national leagues
<Herzen> boooring
<gopp> Lupine that cuz they only have one driver
<gopp> Lupine they have 11 players @ 10 million
<Lupine> gopp: uh.. Barrichello ?
<surlly> Anyone see what prompted the black/nazi riots in Toledo?
<Herzen> KoooK, it would be nice to see some nations add some teams to the NHL
<gopp> plus ppv rights
<Lupine> and soccer does not have a cool billion and a half in other costs
<Herzen> for instance if Sweden added a national team in the NHL
<Herzen> They would do pretty good
<gopp> Lupine what cost
<gopp> Lupine third party pay for that cost
<gopp> not fifa
<Herzen> or Russia
<gopp> or the club
<gopp> they pay rights
<gopp> for that cost
<gopp> right to have beer in the statdium
<Lupine> gopp: No, the cost to run a F1 team, seperate from teh cost of the players :P
<gopp> right to sell hotdogs or even right to watch on tv, and people must pay ppv money to watch the match
<gopp> it not free
<gopp> unless you listen it on the radio
<surlly> F1 team is in excess of $500 Mill per year
<Lupine> *shrug* money is not the determining factor of who is the best athlete
<Lupine> surlly: Yep..
<gopp> Lupine it a car company
<gopp> who puts that money up
<Lupine> in fact, the drivers salary is a very small percentage of the total cost.
<surlly> Probably more next year
<gopp> Lupine sure it not evena sport
<gopp> it a car race
<gopp> with high expensive cars
<gopp> that all
<surlly> Yes, F1 drivers are not atheletes
<gopp> and computers helping a guy drive
<gopp> soccer player play 90min, and partice everyday
<Lupine> *shrug* in conclusion: soccer/non-us football players are pansies, who are too dainty to play by realman's rugby-like rules :-)
<gopp> like a job
<gopp> a f1 driver
<Herzen> I'd say a lot of baseball players aren't athletes
<gopp> plays with computer simulation
<gopp> and drive at top speed
<surlly> Herzen: Id have agreed with you 20 years ago. But not now
<gopp> and each year thier large crashes
<surlly> Very few fat baseball players
<Herzen> whereas soccer players definately are
<gopp> of course you can endorse a car all you want
<Lupine> gopp: actually, most of the top drivers have no personal life, they are working all day, every day
<gopp> thier is ad space in the car
<gopp> big sticker
<gopp> the most you could put on a tshirt
<gopp> is three ads
<gopp> the most you can have on a car
<gopp> who knows
<Lupine> Herzen: there are certain skill-sets that may not require peak cardiovascular fitness.
<Lupine> it's especially hard for those who hvae to be very heavy AND still have speed/reactions/etc..
<gopp> Lupine most rugby players are drunks
<Lupine> gopp: they have to be drunk, they're not allowed pads
<gopp> Lupine they won't withstand a game with a soccer player
<gopp> and have a break every min
<gopp> and men on top of men
<gopp> tat gay
<KoooK> :)
<Lupine> gopp: again, play two games.. one rugby, and one soccer.. the rugby team will win if they use the right tactics ;-)
<gopp> sure
<gopp> and soccer would out run
<gopp> a rugby player
<gopp> out run
<gopp> in speed
<Lupine> ah,s o they'll let the rugby player score goal after goal?
<Lupine> i'm telling ya.. just take out the soccer goalee
<gopp> and soccer player would kick the ball far enough
<Lupine> forearm-elbow to their throat, then ground them into the gr***. game over
<gopp> and still out run a rugby player
<gopp> they tend to be more fit
<gopp> soccer is the world games
<gopp> look at how much money the world cups makes
<gopp> compared to rugby
<Lupine> gopp: goal isn't large enough for them to run away from teh rugby guy :P
<gopp> or f1
<Lupine> ah yes, back to money=sport
<gopp> not just goal speed
<Lupine> gopp: so let me get this straight.. for the entire game, the soccer guys will run in fear of their lives? not guard the goal?
<gopp> let put a soccer player and a rugby to withstand a many mile long race
<gopp> in a track
<gopp> Lupine and socre
<gopp> with quick wit
<gopp> and fast speed
<gopp> not get injuryed
<gopp> or act gay
<gopp> on top of a guy
<Lupine> gopp: fair enough. one rugby game, one 10mile race, one soccer game
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