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<DStewart> The public schools and their curricula were by no means intelligently designed.
<redfish> In a visit to the port city of Lagos in Nigeria, the group said that despite emerging technology industries the country lacked an infrastructure for electronics recycling. As a result, much of the imported equipment ended up in landfills, where toxins in the devices can seep into groundwater and produce other unhealthy conditions.
<redfish> The average CRT computer monitor can contain as much as eight pounds of lead and uses plastics treated with toxic fire retardant chemicals.
<redfish> To prevent such toxins from ended up in landfills, the group is trying to push regulations which would require such recycling companies to properly test sold or donated equipment and label it before shipping.
<drt> ns dstewart
<_3Josephs> hehe outer bands of Wilma hitting UK? I don't think so
<Kaliuna> 3J -- as fast as it was moving?? who knows..
<_3Josephs> hehe
<Rockfish> Technically the Bahamas are part of the UK I suppose
<tweek> I've never seen much of a conflict between science and religion
<_3Josephs> http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/032443.shtml?5day <-- current 5 day guess on Wilma - a good distance from UK still
<Rebec> tweek me neither
<jhtjerj> yes.....this is becomign annoying....
<tweek> this ID stuff looks like an attempt to combine the two, without any real reason...
<TheTailor> Rockfish, I don't think the Bahama's are part of the UK, they broke away.
<Rockfish> Tailor, you sure, I don't think the Bahamas are sovereign are they
<jhtjerj> tweek..no..it is an attempt by religion to destroy science from the inside
<L0c0> Rosa Parks p***ed away?
<L0c0> wow...
<jhtjerj> TT << CryArvach
<_3Josephs> pretty much everyone has broken away from teh Brits- except the Falklands
<Rebec> L0c0 yeah smell the news
<tweek> L0c0: yeah
<DStewart> Yes, in a Detroit hospital
<jhtjerj> one sec...
<Rockfish> Bush killed Rosa Parks
<DStewart> Age killed Rosa Parks
<Rebec> DS was she like 100?
<L0c0> Rebec: hehe, i was studying, just got back to my comp :-P
<L0c0> Bush hates black people...Bush wants to have Rosa Parks buried in the back of a bus shaped coffin
<L0c0> :-P hehe j/k
<Kaliuna> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9785289/site/newsweek/ and Anne Rice is gonna write christian books
<DStewart> Rebec, I don't know her age
<L0c0> 92
<L0c0> Kaliuna: LOL
<Rebec> L0c0 studying who and is she prettier than me?
<Kaliuna> L0c0 - read it for yourself...
<_3Josephs> rumor is she won't ride in the back of a hearse - so her body will be upfront with the driver ;-)
<L0c0> Kaliuna: that's like Jerry Falwell peddlin' smut....
<Rebec> Kali I thought she has christian themes in the vampires
<L0c0> oh i believe you
<L0c0> Rebec: NEVER hehe
<drt> anyone home school their kids in here?
<Kaliuna> ehh I was just reading it - and going - hmm
<Rebec> L0c0 lol
<|Glitch|> Greetings.
<L0c0> Rebec: studying for a+ certification... 13yrs experience repairing comps and can't get a job b/c everybody needs that damn little paper
<Kaliuna> hi Glitch
<|Glitch|> Hiya Kaliuna!
<tweek> L0c0: Falwell probably already carries twice the legal limit with him
<EDinATL> L0c0: even then it's hard
<Rebec> L0c0 awww
<EDinATL> I have A+ and 3 more certs
<tweek> ****ing hypocrites.
<EDinATL> ccna, linux+ network+
<Oax> what do you need the a+ certification for?
<EDinATL> certs don't help you get jobs for the MOST part, it may help you get in the door
<EDinATL> maybe
<|Glitch|> L0c0: I've been in the business for 25 years and never needed certification in anything.
<CryArvach> ahh there
<Oax> is a+ just like a general computer cert?
<US-Male> L0c0 what paper you getting
<_3Josephs> Oax, yep
<Kaliuna> Cry -- I was talking to Sting - earlier today - he said houses with roofs missing next door to him...
<US-Male> CryArvach how was the hurricane ?
<EDinATL> 0ax it's for basic hardware and software
<Rebec> L0c0 I'll make you a deal help me with accounting and I'll certify you are an A+ friend
<Oax> my theory is that all these certs are just a money-making scheme by whomever awarsd them
<EDinATL> 0ax there may be some truth to that
<CryArvach> UK possessions....
<Oax> and people who sell books and DVDs and courses about getting the certs. its own industry
<Oax> I'm curious about who requires them
<_3Josephs> CryArvach, do we need a UK exorcism? ;-)
<cM0ss> Oax: hard to get a job without them though.
<US-Male> maybe if you don't have connections
<Rebec> exorcisms don't work
<US-Male> I guess, I dunno
<CryArvach> Wales...Scotland...N. Ireland...Channel islands...Gibraltar...Isle of man...
<|Glitch|> cM0ss: I've never had a problem getting work.
<Oax> me neither
<Oax> does a degree usually coutn as a substitute?
<cM0ss> I guess I don't have the connections.
<EDinATL> 0ax yes
<CryArvach> British West Indies...Bermuda...6 holdings in Soouth Atlantic...
<cM0ss> Oax: to the people I have talked to you need both....degree and cert.
<CryArvach> and the Pitcairns
<Rebec> sometimes you need degrees, certifications and experience
<CryArvach> I agree Rebec...
<cM0ss> Rebec: very true.
<CryArvach> sometimes you gotta play by their rules
<US-Male> employers seem to have a lot of variation in what they ask for
<|Glitch|> Oax: Degrees are just about worthless. Someone with 2 years of real-world experience is more likely to get a job than someone with a degree fresh out of school.
<cM0ss> CryArvach: lets not get too crazy.
<Rebec> cM0ss I know ALL about that game...I started selling MaryKay so I wouldn't have to play the game
<EDinATL> school is best, if you are like me, get certs
<Kaliuna> Cry -- yup diff employers diff rules -- and ahem -- sometimes gender
<CryArvach> Ozx..you talking about computer certs?
<US-Male> last year I did a ton of interviews to make sure I was getting the best I could find..... big variation in what was asked for
<Rebec> I am now working on a MBA and I'm scared I won't be able to use it
<Oax> cry yeah
<CryArvach> They have some leverage...
<CryArvach> I have gotten many interviews with them
<US-Male> some wanted college transcripts , some wanted two signed letters of reference, some wanted me to give a 45 min presentation
<US-Male> some wanted all three
<CryArvach> but ultimately..I got my BS in IT
<cM0ss> Rebec: in what?
<US-Male> some wanted none of those
<Rebec> USM No doubt some wanted none...CMoss health care management
<CryArvach> but sort of sick of that ****...lol
<Rebec> if I can survive my accounting cl***
<redfish> rebec++;
<cM0ss> Rebec: good field...lots of jobs
<Rebec> cm0ss I am so frustrated I am thinking about dropping the whole thing
<cM0ss> because of accounting?
<CryArvach> decent Book Rebec... Professional Accounting Procedures.....by...err...Kenneth Lay....errrr
<CryArvach> don't rebec
<Oax> i think the interview is more useful than degrees or certs in determining whom to hire
<Rebec> cM0ss lots of things are frustrating me, but mostly accounting yes..my doctorate will be better that is what I tell myself
<EDinATL> osby in uk?
<EDinATL> wrong #
<Rebec> Oax sometimes you need the degree and cert to get in the door though
<CryArvach> Oax...IT/Computers ...very nepostistic
<CryArvach> I had no prob getting a job with IT degree and certs...
<cM0ss> Rebec: find some people who are good in accounting and network with them.
<US-Male> I felt like I spent a few months on airplanes. I barely had time to party with my friends with my time off !
<Kaliuna> Rebec -- accounting - is easy part its all those dang insurance forms... that change almost weekly
<CryArvach> but No tolerance for the oneupmanship of the other employees
<Oax> craigslist will give you an idea of who requires certs
<redfish> usmale has ***y parties
<Rebec> cM0ss my friend from high school calls me up and helps me out thankfully
<Rebec> redfish so that's where my panties went
<US-Male> redfish meant to type "panties"
<CryArvach> but...Certs will get you noticed...
<US-Male> lol
<CryArvach> I have 7 of them
<Rebec> Kali I disagree...accounting with this instructor is horrible
<cM0ss> :]
<Oax> i have 0, but also a job, so it doesn't matter
<CometBaby> Rebec .. personally, I think some people spend too much time getting degrees and not enough time out there actually using their education in the business world. A lot depends on what you degree is in, if it is useful or not. But getting addt'l degrees in a field that is going nowhere, doesn't seem productive.
<tortus> rebec: cost accounting or financial accounting?
<CryArvach> MCP MSCE MCSA MCDBA A+ N+ S+
<Rebec> cMO if it weren't for my friend I'd be totally ****ed
<Kaliuna> Rebec - ohhh well instructors ya -- you can get good ones and bad ones...
<cM0ss> CryArvach: do you have one in Cisco?
<Rebec> tortus financial accounting
<CryArvach> I am going to get my M. Ed.
<cM0ss> ahh
<CometBaby> I keep telling people to get a degree in accounting and then get their CPA .. they will have a job in a heartbeat :)
<CometBaby> hehe
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