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<FreeTrade> Ok we got 2 this year
<Lithium-> Ivan last year was a 3
<FreeTrade> ok there is your 3rd one.
<FozzyB> Katrina was a 3?
<FreeTrade> No it was over 3
<FreeTrade> 3 and over
<Rebec> I thought Katrina was 4?
<Rebec> maybe it was 3
<Katey> I think it was actually a 4 when it hit land
<FreeTrade> 3 from 1964 to yesterday
<Rebec> at one point it was 5
<FozzyB> <Lithium-> FreeTrade: katrina, rita, wilma, all were 3
<FreeTrade> 23 from 1900 -1964
<JanetB> I thought when katrina when it hit land was a 3
<JustH> tnzr if you want to make claims....really get deep into the science. dont rely on political activists to give you pseudo-scientific bumper stickers
<STINGRAY`> funny the mayor of NO acting like an ***hole. hey man we need help now hey men where is the help
<Katey> it had been a 5 right up untill just a little while before it hit
<FreeTrade> the one that hit today was 2 at landfall was it not ?
<Rebec> katey that's what I thought
<nomazda> FreeTrade andrew was upgraded to a 5
<FreeTrade> If so then we now have 4
<STINGRAY`> free no it was a 3
<nomazda> in 93
<Rebec> Wilma I thought was 3 but is 2 now
<nomazda> heh
<STINGRAY`> and now a 3 again
<nomazda> FreeTrade's #'s are skewed
<FreeTrade> OK We now have 4 cat 3 or larger which hit the US since 1964.
<FreeTrade> We are back in hurricane season
<Lithium-> FreeTrade: no....
<STINGRAY`> free the storm is off on the east cost of fl now and we are still getting wind gusts
<FozzyB> only 4?
<FreeTrade> we should see this for some more years then it will stop again
<Lithium-> FreeTrade: wilma, rita, katrina, ivan <--- just the last 2 years
<FreeTrade> Yes accordign to the US Hurricane Center
<FozzyB> in 41 years?
<JustH> tnzr i can recommend a good beginners guide to the bs of the environmental political movement if you like "hard green"
<FreeTrade> if you dont believe them thats your choice.
<Katey> http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/weather/hurricane/sns-hc-history-1996,0,1783568.story
<STINGRAY`> dam wilma flinstone
<Lithium-> FreeTrade: please get your #s right
<Rebec> stingray lol someone sent me a picture of wilma flinstone in the center of a storm
<nomazda> Lithium- that's too easy
<nomazda> its easy to just spit out a number
<FreeTrade> Lithium, I am quoting from the national hurricane center.
<Lithium-> FreeTrade: where? url?
<STINGRAY`> free people thought power bixes were exploding but it was pine trees. when they get hit the explode
<FreeTrade> If there is a mistake its the national Hurricane Center
<STINGRAY`> rebec i seen it
<STINGRAY`> exdeath heya
<nomazda> FreeTrade you said 3.. which storms are you talking about
<Rebec> stingray it was funny I thought
<Exdeath> sup
<FozzyB> go Packers!
<STINGRAY`> ex nuthin much cleaning up after the storm
<Exdeath> you know it
<STINGRAY`> green bay fudge packers
<FreeTrade> http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/
<Exdeath> bah best of luck with that
<Exdeath> all the storms must be the worst part of living there
<Exdeath> and bob graham
<STINGRAY`> exdeath my roof is on got a metal key west style roof. neighbors roofs are down though
<JustH> FreeTrade so have you scanned the voter guide?
<Exdeath> wow that is rough
<FreeTrade> The legacies of Atlantic tropical cyclones span many cultures and thousands of years. Early evidence of these storms predates extant weather records. Geologists believe that layers of sediment at the bottom of a lake in Alabama were brought there from the nearby Gulf of Mexico by storm surges ***ociated with intense hurricanes that occurred as much as 3,000 years ago (Liu and Fearn 1993). Similarly, sediment cores from the Florid
<Lithium-> FreeTrade: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_notable_tropical_cyclones
<Lithium-> count them lol
<Lithium-> thats NOT including 2005
<Lithium-> which adds 3 more
<FreeTrade> In several incidents, tropical cyclones destroyed otherwise invincible colonial armadas (Millas 1968; Hughes 1987). The French lost their bid to control the Atlantic coast of North America when a 1565 hurricane dispersed their fleet, allowing the Spanish to capture France's Fort Caroline near present-day Jacksonville, Florida. In 1640, a hurricane partially destroyed a large Dutch fleet apparently poised to attack Havana.
<JustH> STINGRAY` maybe you could actually profit from having a windmill farm in your yard. you seem to attract swiftly moving air
<StayFresh> yup the oil industry, and OIl is causing global warming and these hurricanes
<panini> FT how can that be?? I thought Bush created hurricanes through Global Warming?? :)
<STINGRAY`> hmm i wonder if mexico will sue the U.S for wilma
<alh> maybe you should have read with the sensibility filter on.. and realized he meant, 4 this year. first time since 64 :)
<FreeTrade> I am sorry I will trust the national hurricane center over wiki any daY
<Katey> I remember Hugo in ...was it 89?
<Katey> Fran in 96
<StayFresh> U.S will have to withdraw from iraq and stop oil production and consumption to reduce hurricanes
<STINGRAY`> just h hahaha maybe you can get a car powered by a windmill
<Katey> Andrew in 93
<STINGRAY`> panini hiya lol
<FozzyB> You actually believe there have been only 4 cat 3 hurricanes since 1964?
<Lithium-> FreeTrade: where on the url you pasted does it say 3 in the last 50 years?
<Katey> I don't recall there being much hurricate activity in the 80's
<nomazda> FreeTrade since you are quoting NHC stats.. can you point to the URL of your source of information?
<panini> hey sting... is wilma gone past now?
<nomazda> not the general home page
<alh> FozzyB: do you actually believe that was what he meant?
<FreeTrade> wAIT i HAVE a RETRACTION
<FreeTrade> The CORRECT FACT IS OVER CAT 3
<Lithium-> Katey: gilbert, hugo
<STINGRAY`> panini yep about 250 miles from us but wind is howling and its sunny out but the lows for the week will be mid 60's and at night 50's
<Katey> yeah, I said Hugo
<FreeTrade> We had hurricanes hit the US over CAT3, 23 from 1900 to 1964
<Katey> forgot about Gilbert
<FozzyB> alh: <FreeTrade> OK We now have 4 cat 3 or larger which hit the US since 1964.
<FreeTrade> 3 from 1964 to today
<FozzyB> yes, I do believe it is what he meant.
<FreeTrade> wAIT i HAVE a RETRACTION
<alh> FozzyB: yes, simple typo :)
<FreeTrade> We had hurricanes hit the US over CAT3, 23 from 1900 to 1964
<FreeTrade> 3 from 1964 to today
<alh> hmm
<alh> ok
<Lithium-> FreeTrade: back to 3 now?
<FozzyB> he said it again.
<alh> intresting
<Katey> that makes no sense
<Lithium-> lol
<FreeTrade> Ok I corrected my error but the significance of the point I am making is the same
<Lithium-> FreeTrade is off his rocker today :/
<Katey> We've had 3 this year alone
<Katey> at least
<alh> FozzyB: sorry :)
<FreeTrade> http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastdec.shtml
<FozzyB> alh: :)
<FreeTrade> Katey, No
<STINGRAY`> hurricane wilmafingerdotilligetmypantsdown?
<Katey> Plus several others over the last 15 years
<FreeTrade> OVER 3
<Lithium-> FreeTrade: YES OVER 3
<FreeTrade> 4 or higher
<Lithium-> oh
<Katey> it's not 3 or over?
<FozzyB> <FreeTrade> OK We now have 4 cat 3 or larger which hit the US since 1964.
<Katey> ah
<FreeTrade> Not this year lithium
<FreeTrade> we had ONE
<FozzyB> FT: you did not correct your error
<Katey> I thought you meant 3 or higher
<Lithium-> wait a sec
<FozzyB> ok, nm
<Lithium-> we didnt have a scale prior to 1964
<FozzyB> now he said over 3
<JanetB> hmm in 1950 they had 10
<FreeTrade> 1851-2004 cat 4 = 18
<Lithium-> how the hell can you say how many we had before that?
<JanetB> 41-50 we had 10
<FreeTrade> Lithium go to the web sites
<STINGRAY`> i am sad no looters came to my house
<FozzyB> did this discussion start with something regarding global warming?
<STINGRAY`> where is null ptr?
<JanetB> 91 -00 we had 8
<alh> *recalls the global warming south park episode* :)
<nomazda> JanetB his own link disputes what he's already claimed
<Rebec> I say we blame canada alh
<STINGRAY`> free hey brb
<nomazda> wait
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