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<hans_kung> lol
<bud``> Lithium- who cares? approval ratings are down across the board for just about any politician
<bud``> congress approval rating is what?
<hans_kung> bud``: good spin :)
<Lithium-> yea lol
<lgcbmb> 30%?
<Lithium-> bud``: he's ****ed any way you slice it
<bmc> what does bush care
<bmc> he cant get reelected anyways
<TimothyW> hans_kung : Jesus Christ atleast he isn't like Bill Clinton.
<bud``> Lithium- oh, how so?
<Lithium-> bmc: he also cant get **** p***ed
<TimothyW> grr
<bmc> sure he can
<hans_kung> TimothyW: Yeah, his results speak tons for that Timmay
<bud``> <+Lithium-> bmc: he also cant get **** p***ed
<bud``> lol
<bud``> my oh my
<hans_kung> he's NOoo Bill Clinton. That's fer sure.
<rond> really
<Lithium-> social security - shelved
<Lithium-> tax reform - shelved
<Lithium-> miers - will be shelved soon
<hans_kung> AT least Clinton had higher poll ratings during the worst part of his legal troubles.
<hans_kung> :P
<bmc> nobody wants to touch either of those
<Billy^> new shelves - shelved
<bmc> tax reform / SS
<Lithium-> bush did
<bud``> see, you waste your efforts on such NON ISSUES
<bud``> ooh bush this ooh bush that
<TimothyW> hans_kung : Bill Clinton use to take Golf Balls at hit them at his advisors.
<Lithium-> oh those are NON ISSUES now?
<rond> Poll Ratings OMG !!!!! the sky might fall if they drop too low
<bud``> come up with a strategy yet?
<bmc> doesnt matter is only bush wants it
<bmc> if*
<bmc> his career isnt on the line over it, his supporters are
<bud``> wha's funny is
<TimothyW> Lithium- : well Liberals like you bashed him and your anger at the President George W. Bush destroyed his reform.
<bud``> privatizing parts of SS werent even his plan
<Lithium-> ok here's the point: no government can function well if the majority of the people dont approve of it
<Brak55> Timothy: Didn't you used to be left-leaning?
<bud``> the previous administration brought the iodea to the table
<hans_kung> It's all YOUR fault!!!
<Null_Ptr> all that reverence, calling him "President George W. Bush", doesn't make him not a dumb*** or his social security "reform" plan a good idea.
<bud``> both parties came together to discuss it
<Lithium-> TimothyW: i am begging you, just *one* normal sentence
<hans_kung> hahah
<Lithium-> lol
<TimothyW> hans_kung
<bud``> but then bush got in office
<rond> Timothy I am begging you stick to one nick so I don't have manage my /ignore list so much
<bud``> and proposed the idea further
<bud``> and all of a sudden OMFG BUSH WANTS TO KILL THE ELDERLY AND DESTROY SS
<hans_kung> Timothy- do you write tech manuals or do any serious writing at your job?
<bud``> it was THEIR PLAN!
<Lithium-> bud``: not the private accounts
<Lithium-> bud``: which is the part of the bush's plan that dems oppose
<bud``> Lithium- There was a bipartisan effort undertaken in the 90's and one option looked at was private accounts
<bud``> so sorry
<Lithium-> bud``: looked at, but not pushed
<Lithium-> there's a difference between considering an option and pushing for it
<rond> Lithium and you are against private accounts for your children ??
<bud``> Lithium- did the GOP go bat**** and start crying when the dems propesed looking at it?
<TimothyW> Lithium- : ***OHOLIC LIBERALS attack attack attack!!!! What they do when they are attacked they attack the person attacking intelligence...
<hans_kung> My sister in law has a guy works for her, he's 23, college grad, and making 43,000 at a govt job. The kid can't write a complete paragraph without 20 mistakes in spelling or grammar.
<Lithium-> again, there's a difference between considering an option and pushing for it
<Lithium-> all options should be considered
<Lithium-> and thought through
<hans_kung> He's on a final warning because he can't write English.
<Brak55> Timothy: I repeat, didn't you used to be left-leaning in here, or is there another Timothy?
<Null_Ptr> funny how there's like a "left leaning" list like you gotta watch those ****ers close
<Lithium-> TimothyW was always right leaning, when you could understand wtf he was saying
<bmc> i hang to the left on occasion
<bmc> :P
<bmc> eheh
<hans_kung> TMI :P
<Brak55> Null: I lean left, also. I was more curious because it seems that Timothy has changed his tune drasticly.
<bmc> thats better
<Null_Ptr> Brak55 now you're on the list!
<Null_Ptr> you've had it now
<bud``> Lithium- the SOTU speech and others are widely available for you to read...
<Null_Ptr> herzen come kick his ***
<bud``> tell me where he says he is pushing any one plan
<Lithium-> bud``: really? i wasnt aware
<Brak55> Null: I've always been there :)
<bud``> he was inviting ALL sides to discuss the issue
<bmc> bush has always said all options are on the table
<bmc> concerning social security
<Lithium-> bud``: he made how many speeches in how many cities so far advocating his private accounts plan?
<FozzyB> Tim: you want the GOV to get more $?
<bmc> have the democrats submitted any plans yet?
<bud``> Lithium- that was HIS idea for whats best..
<Null_Ptr> plan #1: leave it alone
<FozzyB> Why not everytime you get attacked, the taxpayers get a tax cut?
<Brak55> Lithium: He made one in our town. The whole interview section was embar***ingly scripted.
<bmc> Null_Ptr not an option
<Null_Ptr> plan #2: raise the retirement age over time until it's in balance
<Null_Ptr> plan #3: lower benefits over time until it's in balance
<Lithium-> i love it, every time the subject of bush's plan being stupid comes up, the idiots always reply with "whaaaa the democrats didnt have a plan whaaaaaaa"
<GreenBudd> You think it is bad Just think if Kerry was president
<Brak55> Lithium: Then HE screwed up the script by telling some poor 70 year old she looked 100 (instead of how she'd live well to 100).
<TimothyW> FozzyB : If they get a tax cut then they have a incentive to continue attacking me.
<FozzyB> tim: so?
<FozzyB> :)
<Lithium-> Brak55: lol
<bmc> how about just scrapping it
<GreenBudd> Reporting for DUTY
<TimothyW> blah
<bud``> Lithium- he clearly invited all sides into a bi-partisan debate about how to fix an obvious shortfall... He had his ideas, other gop'ers have their's, the DEMS just went on TV crying and m*** emailing elderly people about how bush is pushing their wheelchair down the stairs (remember that one?)
<Lithium-> bud``: sure sure
<bmc> Lithium- bush has always said, all options are on the table, what plans have the democrats submitted?
<Brak55> I know how to fix social security. Have the government put the ****ing money back they stole from it! :)
<Lithium-> deja vu i swear
<Lithium-> refer to above
<bmc> so you only criticize bushes plan, but what does -your- politician propose to do
<FozzyB> How many moderate democrats are left?
<bmc> nothing.
<bmc> you have nothing
<Lithium-> NOTHING
<Lithium-> WE HAVE NOTHING!
<Lithium-> lol
<bmc> right, thats why you only hear criticism
<FozzyB> that sounds gay.
<bmc> no ideas, no suggestions
<bmc> just criticism
<Lithium-> lmao
<CometBaby> haha sky news "secretly" filmed US Minister praising bombing of london is the headline. As if anyone had to secretly film this guy .. he is openly flaunting his stupidity every bit as much as farrakahn and dean.
<CometBaby> Fred Phelps says that terrorist outrages and natural disasters such as Hurricane Rita are examples of God's wrath against countries such as America and Britain for tolerating homo***uals and homo***uality.
<bmc> its pretty easy to say something is wrong with something
<bmc> thats not contructive criticism
<bmc> constructive*
<Lithium-> cl*** time
<FozzyB> Phelps is that jamoke from Kansas?
<bmc> tell me why there is something wrong with, how you would do it differently, how your way is better than their way
<bmc> can you do any of those things?
<tweek> ****, who isn't blaming natural disasters on homo***uality these days...
<CometBaby> FreeTrade is that you?
<hans_kung> Phelps also protests at funerals of Iraqi soldiers...he's a few genes short of a happy meal imho.
<FozzyB> was it Falwell or robertson who blamed 911 on Homo***uals?
<tweek> Falwell. and **** him.
<tweek> **** him long, and **** him hard.
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