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<Mr_Wizard> why can't we go back to fightinbg on horseback, fighting with swords and axes....
<Mr_Wizard> ?
<ajofi> Anyone want to guess at the percent change in the average monthly price of oil during the Carter administration vs. the Bush II administration?
<DeDannan> hans_kung, quite possibly..but in a smaller Austria
<Timur> DeD: Russia didn't need colonies, just a warm water port. Russia was plenty big enough to have internal markets and raw materials galore
<rond> HA HA its such bull**** people who have no ins cannot do something for there medical bills. The hospital just gave us a $25 per month payment and 1.2 % interest. I do have insurance but this deal is for what the ins would not pay
<Disbelief> ajofi - lets hear it
<rond> all you have to do is ask
<Timur> Dis: I'll msg to yuo
<jhicks> Mr_Wizard: not as much fun as bombing wimmen and chillins with "smart bombs"
<pilgrim`> Russia had just lost ArchAngel
<ajofi> +85% for Carter
<ajofi> +107% for Bush
<Disbelief> timur - ok
<ajofi> BEFORE Katrina
<Disbelief> ajofi - hmm interesting.
<Timur> done
<Mr_Wizard> I am into LOTR too much, I guess.
<ajofi> And the total value increase in Saudi Arabian stocks?
<ajofi> Since January, +83%.
<jhicks> Mr_Wizard: I think the Polish Calvary made the last stand with horses vs tanks
<pilgrim`> Mr Wizard "This Ring and no other was made by the elves/ Who'd pawn their own mother to grab it themselves..." etc
<jhicks> nobody tried that manuver since
<DeDannan> jhicks, didn't turn out too well for the Poles, if I recall...
<hans_kung> DeDannan: Hapsburg's weren't even allowed to set foot back in Austria, until the early 1990s. I think the govt there has loosened up a lot about allowing them even live there now. Not sure. One of Otto von Hapsburgs is in the E.U. parliament
<ajofi> American oil companies aren't the only ones making a lot of money on the price of gasoline today.
<hans_kung> parliament
<jhicks> not very well at all
<Mr_Wizard> jhicks: yeah
<DeDannan> hans_kung, yep..their lands were siezed as well
<Mr_Wizard> I shall build a time machine and go back to that era.
<jhicks> 40% of domestic refining capacity is controlled by foreign interests
<hans_kung> er sorry, that should have read, "one of Otto von Hapsburg's son is in the EU Parliament."
<pilgrim`> Dildo Bugger of the Stye and his suposed nephew Frito on their way to the Great Zazu pits of Twodoor beyond Fordor
<hans_kung> my bad, TIMMAY!
<ajofi> jhicks: Oh and I also think that we should lift the embargo with Cuba.
<bmc> 60% of our demand is from imports
<Disbelief> Timur - oh, yeah i've read this. a long time ago. As i've said. Friedman has lost all credibility. he's a high-level hack employed by a newspaper that has a penchant for employing hacks, and supporting their "alternative" views because it doesn't want to be seen as a "liberal" outlet. Unfortunately this motivation to seem unbiased leads them to support the bull**** of hacks like Miller and Friedman.
<DeDannan> hey..dont be dissin Zazu Pitts!
<jhicks> ajofi: If we deal with those chinese pigs i don't see why not
<Lupine> HAHHAHAHHAHAHA they are *****ING that FEMA has sent out "unorganized private companies" to deliver more water/ice.. "Why were we not told about this??" I'm sorry, would you RATHER they packup and went back home with all the water?????
<jhicks> (speaking of the chinese govt, not people)
<pilgrim`> that is from the Harvard Lampoon's "Bored of the Rings"
<ajofi> jhicks: Guess the salary of a new State Department job created, in Secretary Rice's words, "to accelerate the demise" of Castro's regime.
<DeDannan> hans_kung, the Hapsburgs were an "interesting" lot..they make the German usurpers in London look positively plebian :)
<Timur> Dis: that's one possible take, but it doesn't address his actual arguments, or their merit.
<jhicks> ajofi: feh, that old bastard will die soon anyway
<ajofi> yeah but guess the salary
<Timur> DeD: great earlobes and chins they had
<jhicks> 300K?
<pilgrim`> Lupine of course. Here is your number, stand in line. do not loose your number...
<ajofi> $145,000
<DeDannan> Timur, the result of "breeding" :)
<jhicks> well, that's about par for a meaningless policy wonk
<Disbelief> ajofi - MONEY WELL SPENT!
<ajofi> The State Department actually has a job for that. Incredible.
<ajofi> One job.
<Disbelief> haha
<Lupine> Pil: it's just hysterical.. FEMA using the local resources to bring more water, and they are *****ing
<ajofi> One guy.
<jhicks> Disbelief: he'll die anyway soon
<Timur> DeD: heck, they might as well have been hillbillies, just with money and armies
<ajofi> Waste of money.
<jhicks> waste of money
<Disbelief> jhicks - "soon" could be 10 years
<ajofi> yeah really
<jhicks> Disbelief: for 100K somebody could get him whacked
<Timur> Dis: right, see the cost of ignoring it for 15
<pilgrim`> Lupine well they shoudl have put the contract up for bid bearing in mind all rules boverning EEOE and fair hireing practices
<DeDannan> Timur, yep..Ive always said that rednecks and European royalty had a lot in common :)
<pilgrim`> governmning
<Disbelief> people, especially those with access to advanced healthcare can live on in a decrepid state for a long time.
<Timur> DeD: I think so too.. hence the only slightly subsumed American fascination with Euroyalty
<Disbelief> though he's probably regretting all those cigars
<ajofi> jhicks: Yeah speaking of cheaper the amount of money the U.S. spent trying to eradicate poppy production in Afghanstian exceeded the cost of just outright buying the year's production of opium.
<DeDannan> Timur, true that
<jhicks> Disbelief: bleh, the cuban embargo doesn't hurt castro
<ajofi> jhicks: Should have just bought the whole lot of it and then dumped it.
<jhicks> it hurts the people of cuba
<Disbelief> jhicks - i agree. i'm talking about his smoking them.
<jhicks> who are not our enemy
<Timur> DeD: however, that also includes Bush, Gore and that set
<ajofi> Timur: It's because of the "Cuban vote"
<DeDannan> Timur, indeed it does
<occ_> yah cuz its totally feasible to eradicate poppie production
<occ_> what a waste
<Airbuster> poppy, occ
<ajofi> I don't understand how there are really that many Cuban Americans, but there have to be more Chinese Americans.
<Airbuster> poppies are plural
<occ_> anything poor farmers can growe that people pay good money for will get grown
<jhicks> occ_: mmm opium
<ajofi> You don't see the Chinese Americans asking for an embargo with China (not like they'd get one either).
<Disbelief> "poopie" is what W calls his dad.
<occ_> shaddup, airbuster
<Airbuster> hehe, occ
<occ_> heh
<DeDannan> Disbelief, thats "poppie"...not "poopie" :)
<Lupine> ajofi: actually, yes they did. and they got one. granted, it was selective, but it was an embargo against small-arms from china... which is a shame, as Norinco was very good for the money
<occ_> jhicks: a few poppies would be nice right about now ;)
<jhicks> haha
<Katey> poopsie
<Airbuster> haha
<Disbelief> which is funny, because daddy bush's friends have been gangbanging Dubya in the press over Miers.
<Airbuster> pooppies
<Disbelief> gotta love that
<jhicks> occ_: we could munch on some poppy seeds
<DeDannan> they're not wild about harri-ett
<ajofi> lupine: well i guess there's one
<jhicks> eat three pounds and get a slight headache
<ajofi> lupine: U.S. is still a much bigger exporter of arms though.
<Katey> Yeah. I saw Bill Kristol on The Daily Show the other night. He seemed pretty hopefull that Miers will withdraw
<Disbelief> katey - a lot of people think she's totally dead in the water.
<ajofi> katey: She's DOA.
<jhicks> Katey: Kristol has undergone something of a metamorphosis
<DarthBurg> I am keeping hope alive for Ashcroft on the Supremes
<Disbelief> HAHAHAH
<jhicks> Katey: I think it's called "distancing oneself"
<DarthBurg> hehehehe
<Katey> jhicks, oh, he's still very supportive of the administration's policies abroad
<Disbelief> you're not serious, are you?
<DeDannan> Katey, If Dubya drops Miers...his admin moves into caretaker mode the next day...
<jhicks> He throws a lot of darts though
<DarthBurg> Disbelief ashcroft is not right wing enough for my taste, but he will do
<Disbelief> Miers will probably be one of bush's biggest defeats
<ajofi> darthburg: Ashcroft would be like another Miers. He's not a constitutional lawyer either, let alone a judge.
<Katey> DarthBurg wants an activist court!
<Disbelief> darthburg - haha.
<Katey> :)
<DarthBurg> hah
<jhicks> Ashcroft was smart enough to recuse himself at least
<Disbelief> ajofi - excellent point. not to mention he's more divisive AND conflicted.
<DarthBurg> *IF* Interpreting law instead of making it makes me want an activist court, so be it
<Glock21> Conservatives were really rooting for another Clarence Thomas.
<TimothyW> Miers will be confirmed.
<Glock21> Miers seems more like a shot in the dark.
<Disbelief> TimothyW - so sure?
<ajofi> Miers definitely will not be confirmed.
<jhicks> She can't even spell Myers right!
<jhicks> gege
<jhicks> hehe too
<Katey> I gotta tell you, I find his choice pretty baffling
<TimothyW> I'm sure.
<ajofi> Bush already said this week that he will not release the documents that Republicans have asked for about Miers.
<Katey> LEFITS!!
<ajofi> Without those documents, the Senate is simply going to declare an imp***e.
<Pickle> Yes. Corrupt leftist ***holes.
<jhicks> DAM BIAS LEFITS!
<Airbuster> well, we knew Bush was sortof a moderate himself, so it's only logical that he would appoint moderates
<Disbelief> katey - the theory is that it was done out of convenience and pressure.
<Pickle> And their following of useful idiots.
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