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<icmps> CryArvach: You'll notice Wilma went for mr. statist, and largely avoided mr. anarchist ;)
<SweetLeaf> Sneaky bastards
<Disbelief> SweetLeaf - the US already does dominate the world in many respects. monetarily, financially, militarily, politically.
<WarpBurg> china
<|Glitch|> Swigert: In MS-SQL 7, if there was a syntax error in my stored procedure when I attempt to save it, I get a Microsoft error saying "Network could not be found." :)
<CryArvach> all we got of Wilma was 2 hours of wind and rain...ladedadedda
<bmc> dude we are like the bullies on the block
<Swigert> glitch: oh dear
<bmc> nobody messes with us
<SweetLeaf> But we dont go to other countries and stay forever
<Swigert> so where's the problem? hardware? software?
<Zmurf> I understand Uranium is a very hot subject today, and perhaps oil and paper work :D What happend to the idea of conserving the planet before it dies?
<CryArvach> Hurricane A in 2006 will be after ypou icmps
<icmps> CryArvach: bet?
<tortus> how can a planet die?
<`Maryanne> well CryArvach i need to get going, good to see you again :)
<icmps> CryArvach: Mmm Tampa ;)
<Rayvyn> Dstewart, I've given you all the sources you need. Wilson was sent to niger to look into information of a uranium sale contained in those documents. Now if you haven't figured that out yet, then any other sources I provide you won't change your mind.
<Swigert> tortus: ask Krypton
<bmc> it loses its ability to sustain life?
<|Glitch|> Swigert: I knew the message was bogus, but it took me awhile to figure out what the real problem was.
<bmc> no plant life = no animal life
<Disbelief> DStewart - just curious, but what's your prediction for indictments? yes, no ?
<bmc> = no life
<TimothyW> I'm the Love Pirate
<TheTailor> Rayvyn, in other words, you don't have any.
<tortus> more likely, the life would adapt
<CryArvach> TomothyW right
<surlly> Let me talk to myself for a minute here. Just to recap; No evidence of an active nuclear program, no evidence of a widescale deployable bio warefare program, 1 unconfirmed report of an old artillary shell with a toxin any chem student could make. That's the extend of the WMDs found in Iraq. Not that that was the main reason we invaded.
<WarpBurg> High gas prices way well deal the freak religion of Enviromentalism a lethal blow.
<bmc> tortus why isnt it doing it now?
<CryArvach> icmpblubblubs
<bmc> tortus why are species dissappearing now?
<Rockfish> Rayvyn, surrenders, he knows he's lost so he refuses to answer the question
<tortus> bmc: species have always dissappeared
<Disbelief> surlly - they were a THREAT TO THS UNITED STATES!!!
<Disbelief> surlly - why cloud your mind with logic like that.
<bmc> tortus what makes you think the weak humans will be one of the lucky ones?
<Disbelief> just accept the 'common sense' and drink the kool-aide already!
<tortus> bmc: i didn't think that. did you?
<TimothyW> CryArvach : you know Two Feet Fred is ?
<WarpBurg> surly, you forgot several items, including toxins, mustard gas, and enough dual use pesticides to spray the entire middle east. but hey, we found nothing, right
<Timur> hi, I'd like to discuss yellow cake. I like it with chocolate icing
<Zmurf> A planet can die by all this warfare, exploit of resources which keep the earth together , If we consume all the raw material on earth , the earth will lose gravity and change orbit. And thats a astrofysical fact.
<TimothyW> CryArvach : you know who Two Feet Fred is ?
<Timur> hi maryanne
<fonelap> or.. high gas prices could help environmentalism
<bmc> oh geea
<`Maryanne> hi Timur
<bmc> geez*
<icmps> WarpBurg: *pesticides* ??? those monsters
<bmc> Zmurf do you hang on freenode also?
<bmc> your commentary sounds familiar
<Disbelief> fonelap - only if they're sufficiently high to severely curb demand. thusfar, they aren't.
<WarpBurg> High Gas Prices help conservatism, not enviromentalism
<fonelap> cause idiots would stop buying the biggest piece of american crap they could :P
<surlly> Warp: You're right. I forgot about the case of "Roach Motels" they found
<Rockfish> Surlly, if you don't think that sarin story was confirmed you need to pay closer attention, search any credible news source you want you'll find it
<WarpBurg> icmps, yeah, what can ye do
<fonelap> conservation is environmentalism :P
<|Glitch|> tortus: Yep, there have been several m*** extinction. The largest m*** extinction occurred at the end of the Devonian Period, more than 90% of the species on the planet were wiped out.
<tortus> zmurf: how can we consume all the raw material? doesn't it change to other raw material?
<bmc> enviromental protection doesnt have to extreme
<tortus> and stay on the planet?
<Disbelief> fonelap - its a component of of it, but not in and of itself.
<surlly> Rock: Give me a credible source. You cited Fox.
<bmc> we dont have to just stop polluting
<bmc> or just stop using oil
<bmc> we can make subtle changes
<bmc> to b*
<bmc> be* :P
<Rockfish> Surlly, I didn't cite Fox, Glitch did, but every other news outlet covered it oo
<Rockfish> too
<surlly> I need a NYT source
<tortus> the dinosaurs turned into petroleum, the petroleum turned into plastics. it all stayed on earth
<Timur> surlly: for what
<TimothyW> MaryAnne : hi.
<bmc> we turned it into plastic
<`Maryanne> hi TimothyW
<surlly> Timur: Stock Tip
<CryArvach> bye Mary
<Disbelief> tortus - petroleum likely derived from plant and bacterial matter.
<Rockfish> http://av.rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5XxaOmBD.EIAwylrCqMX;_ylu=X3oDMTBvdmM3bGlxBHBndANhdl93ZWJfcmVzdWx0BHNlYwNzcg--/SIG=13nvmjb5d/EXP=1130466266/**http%3a//www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi%3ff=/news/archive/2004/05/17/international1319EDT0605.DTL
<CryArvach> TimothyW...Mary knows me :)
<`Maryanne> lol about time Tim
<TimothyW> The World isn't a Geico Commercial.
<^rcane> Disbelief: how so?
<DStewart> Rayvyn, you haven't given me a single source that isn't already self-repudiated. You have cited NO source for the claim that the CIA had the documents before Wilson's trip.
<Rockfish> http://av.rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5XxaOmBD.EIAxylrCqMX;_ylu=X3oDMTBvdmM3bGlxBHBndANhdl93ZWJfcmVzdWx0BHNlYwNzcg--/SIG=12l70k8eb/EXP=1130466266/**http%3a//www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2004/040517-sarin-iraq.htm
<`Maryanne> now i can go, big huggers Timmy xoxox
<TimothyW> MaryAnne : have we ever met on IRC ?
<tortus> disbelief: is it running out then? i thought there was a finite amount of dinosaur remains
<DStewart> Rayvyn, so perhaps that's why you WON'T cite any sources: You CAN'T.
<Rockfish> http://av.rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5XxaOmBD.EIAyylrCqMX;_ylu=X3oDMTBvdmM3bGlxBHBndANhdl93ZWJfcmVzdWx0BHNlYwNzcg--/SIG=12n81imok/EXP=1130466266/**http%3a//www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33082-2004May17.html
<redfish> poo
<h0mi> theres too much horsecrap and misinformation about the cia, niger, wilson plame controvery
<h0mi> versy
<h0mi> controversy
<`Maryanne> i dont think so TimothyW
<h0mi> any indictments will likely muddle, not settle anything
<Timur> :)
<TimothyW> MaryAnne : bye bye.
<Swigert> tomorrow, I go to the bank to buy 400 UK pounds, to Staples to get some new printer cartridges, and to the grocery store
<|Glitch|> Rockfish: If you are still talking about the 500 tons of uranium yellow cake found in Iraq, here is another source besides Fox http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/8/9/110630.shtml
<bmc> youre buying money?
<Rockfish> Glitch, no, that's for the sarin artillery shell
<bmc> :P
<surlly> Cool! Let me quote "An artillery shell..."
<Disbelief> http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/051026/051026_rove_hmed_6a.h2.jpg <--- what you don't see is the gun he's about to put into his mouth.
<tortus> so, is the uranium is a natural substance?
<Swigert> bmc: yeah - got a problem with that? *cocks .45*
<surlly> Thanks for the reference. Now I know why we invaded
<Rockfish> They don't believe Fox and Newsmax anyway, they have to hear it from Al Franken or its not true
<fonelap> newsmax? hahahaha
<CanOfSpam> Newsmax blows. And Im a conservative.
<bmc> hey whatever floats your boat i spose
<CanOfSpam> Newsmax is the right wing version of Air America, in web form.
<Lupine> bmc: don't worry about swigert, he is shooting blanks
<bmc> oh right
<bmc> guns, in canada?
<bmc> bwahaha
<|Glitch|> Rockfish: Okay, how is this: "Deadly Nerve Agent Sarin Is Found in Roadside Bomb" Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33082-2004May17.html
<fonelap> newsmax is like the national enquire of online news
<fonelap> enquirer
<Rockfish> Glitch, I think that was the last link I posted for him
<Rayvyn> newsmax is lies lies and more lies. at least franken tells the truth
<Rockfish> But Al Franken wasn't quoted in it, so it can't be true
<bmc> probably easier to carry a hangun in canada than it is in this state
<bmc> :P
<bmc> thats saying something
<Swigert> the world suspected for a long time that Saddam had WMDs - but only the US and Britain were willing to act upon it. So everyone is guilty of making that mistake
<DStewart> Rayvyn, you're not much of a judge of lying, unless you want to claim expertise based on your performance here tonight.
<Lupine> bmc: which state are you in again?
<Disbelief> Rockfish - do you have any appreciation for the term "Weapon of M*** Destruction" ?
<bmc> md
<Brak55> How do we know that the sarin wasn't brought in by insurgents?
<occ_> yah we REALLY believed iraq was a threat because of WMD
<|Glitch|> Rockfish: Here is another: "No WMDs? Tons of Uranium, Sarin Gas, Buried MiGs" Source: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/1/13/70852.shtml
<occ_> seriously guys!
<Lupine> dis: he had kilotons of radioactive material.. documented by the UN..
<Disbelief> Brack55 - excellent question.
<occ_> pffff
<Rockfish> Disbelief, yes I do, and a sarin filled artillery shell qualifies
<Disbelief> lupine - almost every government has radioactive material. its not special.
<CanOfSpam> Al Franken tells the truth? ROFL.
<bmc> i am like within 300 some miles of some huge percentage of the US population
<bmc> i think thats what makes this entire region ****ty
<Lupine> Dis: it can be used to make very deadly radiological bombs
<DarthBurg> SPAM
<Disbelief> rockfish - yeah, because an explosive-filled artillery shell can't cause m*** destruction at all, right?


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