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<madsage> 85% of our public media is liberal biased
<qwishna> australia has a send up show called cnnnn
<Krell> a little luck does come into to play to of course
<madsage> and whats funny is they still are losing elections =]
<madsage> nice try Dan'o
<qwishna> well investigating who owns the media is informative, it tells you who controls the propaganda machine
<DarthBurg> it is to laugh
<madsage> yeah
<Glock21> 2006 is going to be a tough election year if any of the dem party complaints and accusations stick in the minds of average voters.
<Glock21> Key question... will any of this crap stick.
<Glock21> If dems can convince the average yahoo that dems can make gas cheaper, watch out.
<madsage> i'm sure Dean will **** it up, maybe another Republicans are Evil speach will help.
<qwishna> yawn, ah the gross naivity of sheep, it matters which candidate wins, sigh
<Krell> madstage its to bad the democrats have alllowed themselfs to become the socialist party of the US. I just dont think there ideas are really compatable with the main stream anymore, the majority of americans dont want a form of socialism
<CometBaby> Glock .. well, Hillary just announced that she favors a huge gasoline tax
<DarthBurg> boy that would be a trick, Democrats and cheaper gas.
<Glock21> If dems can convince us that politicians are lying corruptible slimebags... well, big *yawn* from the average joe... he knew that already.
<TheTailor> the gross naivity of sheep?
<DarthBurg> on the producers
<qwishna> yawn, ah the gross naivity of sheeple, it matters which candidate wins, sigh
<madsage> Krell, they are not, and America is waking up, the largest labor union in the US just split 3 ways.
<CometBaby> well, not in those words .. but thats what it amounted to :)
<Krell> theyare not what?
<sym`> qwishna: Sheeps usually fallow the same thing right? So someone sitting in a chat room calling everyone else in the room "sheep" would be being a sheep in itself right?
<TheTailor> qwishna, well it doesn't matter to you.
<qwishna> sym`, ah so a clever sheep is still aherd animal
<Glock21> C-Baby... a federal gas tax increase would be like sending every independent, average joe voter a "I hate you" card.
<Glock21> I think she should run with it.
<Glock21> :P
<CometBaby> hehe
<TheTailor> qwishna, and who are not what you term'sheeple'?
<madsage> i want to see condi rice run
<Robscure> all the sheeple are equal but some are more equal than others.
<sym`> I mean, you seem to be fallowing by the same rules qwishna just on the other end of the spectrum (sp?)
<Robscure> qwishna is an enlightened sheeple...
<DarthBurg> i just want to see Hillary and Condi debate
<Glock21> Of course if the dems actually put out a quality candidate this time it may force the repubs to do the same. Might not be so bad.
<Razlak^> they're trying really hard to keep the last increase we had here in WA
<DarthBurg> with like, Brit hume moderating
<Razlak^> initiative will problably kill it though
<madsage> Condi would own hillary
<CometBaby> Well look at algore .. he wanted to raise it .50 cents a gallon
<Krell> qwishna we are all sheep that follow whoever enables us to eat and stay warm , your boss is your shepard in a sence
<sym`> That would be hard for Hillary, because she wouldn't dare call Condi a racist
<Glock21> Razlak^... nah, not too surprising. Heavy taxation is key to social programs in a mixed economy.
<qwishna> "animal farm" is a good model for america and the new world order (you want fies with that?)
<CometBaby> that was a few years ago .. now he would be asking for $1/gal tax
<TimothyW> The most boring debate in years. I want to see is John F. Kerry and Al Gore.
<Krell> lol
<madsage> hah
<Krell> omg i couldnot bear that
<madsage> i'll p*** on that
<TheTailor> qwishna, have you read the channel rules?
<sym`> qwishna: OK, well I was trying to get you to contribute something other than what you're doing, but you seem hell bent on just trying to poke at everyone
<Razlak^> they're trying to roll back a 9 cent per gallon increase, and you'd think the inititiave will bankrupt the state... I only wish it would
<Glock21> "Animal Farm" = PROOF that livestock are fascists out to get us. To hell with being a vegetarian! We KNOW what the pigs are really up to.
<Robscure> bah, make the world a better place, take a self improvement correspondence course or something.
<Razlak^> haha
<Krell> John i think we should put your treason in a "Lock Box" and moveon .org :)
<Robscure> I will work harder
<TimothyW> John F. Kerry is still against John F. Kerry
<Glock21> Either Darth has two legs or he can't count past two.
<Krell> Robscure cool :) i think thats a good idea
<DarthBurg> i was not going to go there!
<Glock21> Don't feel too bad Darth... after all this "unilateral" whining we've learned that most dems can't count past one.
<DarthBurg> you said nothing about three legs!
<Glock21> :D
<Forbin> bhahaha
<Krell> lol
<DarthBurg> *gasp* the US appears to have a blue cancer
<Krell> Forbin those colors dont run :)
<SonOfSpam> Forbin... even better: http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/3d_viewpoint0.gif
<SonOfSpam> 3-d
<DarthBurg> concentrated around large urban centers
<SonOfSpam> w00t
<Forbin> whoo yea
<SonOfSpam> Darth, the 3-d map shows the concentration.
<SonOfSpam> check it out: http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/3d_viewpoint0.gif
<sym`> SonOfSpam: You would have to show someone up on a damn poll map
<SonOfSpam> It's nifty
<sym`> Mr "3D"
<Robscure> luckily there's all that red out there in the "Meth Belt"
<sym`> Only Spammy ..... ;p
<Krell> SOS ya know what thats pretty cool , but when you see it you realize something
<Glock21> Krell... that dems are in control of the areas with the most economic disparity and crime rates?
<Glock21> :D
<sym`> Ouch!
<DarthBurg> that one east coast rod that pokes way up must be DC
<sym`> I heard that kick in the balls clear over here in VA
<sym`> Had a nice *thump* to it!
<TimothyW> http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/3d_viewpoint0.gif <---- Looks like something we should give to Al-Qaida to fool them into thinking they are buildings.
<Krell> those tallest areas are also the largest citys most likey to be attacked by terrorists , but it would be a blow ffor them in the end because they would lose alot of their supporters
<Robscure> you have to respect the spirit of self reliance in rural america, the can do attitude and ingenuity that produces thousands of Meth labs across the great land...
<Glock21> I like this 3-d map better than the other 3-d map that was just red and blue... this shows the even purple areas.
<DarthBurg> no meth labs in democrat stongholds, crack only
<Robscure> DarthBurg, figures! the losers...
<DarthBurg> make your own drugs? are you insane?
<Glock21> I like the maps that show the shades... shoots down the civil war regionalism comparisons that were floating around.
<Krell> It also proves that people in areas so densely populated can be molded into a particular idiology more easly
<Krell> city shep :)
<Krell> sheep
<Glock21> Lot more economic disparity in the cities... far more poor than rich. Poor want their dibs on the pie... vote democrat to get it.
<Robscure> Glock21....they could zoom in on the shaded map...bet it would produce fractals like the mandelbrot set ...
<TheTailor> molded? you mean bribed
<|bob> the mandelbrot set is so late 80s
<Krell> molded bribed whatever you wanna call it
<Robscure> bob, in the late 80's my computer would slow to a crawl after only a few iterations...wasn't fun for me until the late 90's
<Glock21> Well in the cities the poorer folks make up a greater portion of the population, but the rich have all the influence after the election is over.
<Glock21> It's an interesting situation politically.
<Glock21> You have to be able to bait the poor schmucks into voting for you and then keep your campaign donors happy until next election.
<Glock21> Vicious cycle.
<DarthBurg> gonna be tough with fewer union thugs
<DarthBurg> the union bust up is gonna hurt Donk election tactics.
<Krell> usualy in the larger cities you have universitys that pump out rows and rows of liberals too , imagine paying all that $$$$ to learn to become a good liberal, its tough to be a conservitive on campus or in cl*** even
<Glock21> Well it got hard for the unions with dems supporting less traditional conservative issues.
<ChaosMage> Its not tough to be anything
<Glock21> Unions and anti-gun dems... eek
<Glock21> Unions and gay marriage... double eek
<suna> krell: i find most conservitives on university campuses are (just like most of the liberals) lying about what they believe
<TimothyW> Clinton isn't got enough money to put into the Unions to bring them back again.
<suna> i find that in MOST cases they just love to argue and *****, and it is VERY VERY EASY to make them contradict themselves
<Glock21> Dems use to be far more conservative on traditional values. Which was in line with most union folks.
<suna> there is 1 kid in my cl*** @ berkeley who is an exception. Hardcore conservative, rubs it in nobody's face, isn't lying about anything, and doesn't even like debate
<suna> smart as **** too
<suna> from a physics point of view
<suna> however, he's probably the only exception i've ever seen. Basically anybody on campus who's politically active = bad news / liars
<suna> trying to impress mommy
<suna> makes me sick
<DarthBurg> debating liberals is largely pointless, you wind up trying to educate them, and that is pointless.
<DarthBurg> a little redundant i know
<suna> liberals say the same about conservatives
<Glock21> I consider myself a liberal, and willing to be educated.
<Krell> lol
<Krell> lock and load
<suna> you can't 'educate' anybody who doesn't want to be educated, and you sure as hell can't change anybody's mind in a debate
<suna> it's impossible
<suna> because people are always pissed off
<DarthBurg> Glock21 your not your typical brain dead liberal.
<suna> ok, almost always, don't gimmie the 1/1000 crap
<Glock21> But my liberalism doesn't mesh well with the democratic party.
<Glock21> I'm a liberal, but still a federalist.
<Glock21> I still believe that limited central gov't is a good idea.
<Krell> i have no idea what i am other than american
<suna> me too
<Glock21> State and local gov't should worry about State and local issues without having to beg for federal bucks.
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