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<Lupine> IMHO: if someone is forced to "sell", they should get the "As developed" worth.
<jhicks> Lupine: that would be more equitable
<jhicks> but still wrong imo
<Lupine> jh: heh, was about to say that
<Null_Ptr> how would you define as developed
<RustyFord> i don't think anyone should be "forced" to sell
<trompe> Lupine: well perhaps so... I think the problem should only be one of equity of compensation... I think an authority of eminent domain should certainly exist
<Nemes> DeDannan --> Fred Phelps http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/phelpsbio.html
<jhicks> Null_Ptr: the value after development
<Nemes> the guy is a loom
<Lupine> Null: If they claim it will be worth 500million to the economy.. then a significant percentage of that
<RustyFord> unless its to put in a highway or some such
<Nemes> n
<trompe> RustyFord: so what happens when a sentimental homeowner prevents a hospital development?
<CometBaby> trompe .. hopefully that unconstitutional law that the SC p***ed to take land away from people will be corrected.
<Lupine> Nemes: Tell me, how many Phelps have suicide bombed innocent people?
<CometBaby> that's socialism
<jhicks> RustyFord: well, i even have some problems with highways
<DeDannan> Nemes, ah him...well...nobody takes him seriously..he's a bit of an embarr***ment...unlike the Islamic clerics who apparently have quite a following..
<jhicks> and railroads
<Lupine> CB: Yep. That is pure leftoid socialism
<RustyFord> just because Bill Gates can build a mall and bring in more taxes than you the homeowner, doesn't mean he should be able to
<Nemes> Lupine, tell me how many islamic preachers situated in the UK have bombed anyone?
<Nemes> none
<Lupine> Nemes: eh? I think you already had 8 (4 successful )
<jhicks> Nemes: but have they advocated doing so?
<RustyFord> <trompe >RustyFord: yes, no ****... but what is the problem if they receive compensation? <--- the mentality is astonishing
<Nemes> they were not preachers
<trompe> CometBaby: blah, it's not socialism... what if it is to build a hospital or an airport or something else that will benefit millions?
<Nemes> they nvr preached anything
<DeDannan> Nemes, no..they just listened to their preachers
<Nemes> jhicks, true
<CometBaby> I don't care. The right of the people is what matters.
<jhicks> trompe: protection of individual rights is the purpose of the constitution
<DeDannan> ann made a nice jihad for Allah
<CometBaby> not the greater good
<CometBaby> thats communism
<Nemes> and this phelps guy has openly stated that 9/11 didnt kill enough people and 7/7 in the UK should of killed millions
<Nemes> thats my point
<Nemes> nothign more
<US-Male> I think Bush decided to go with someone more conservative on the SC, since Dems are punishing his appointees with the legal system
<Lupine> CB: Indeed. The communist/socialists switched to "bore from within" in the 80s.
<trompe> RustyFord: the 'mentality' isn't 'astonishing'... the legal situation here is that compulsory acquisition can occur under just compensation... which I think is a perfectly reasonable system. Furthermore, my statement doesn't express a mentality; it's a question
<Nemes> not trying to cause an argument or anything - i am just saying
<RustyFord> because a mall can bring in more taxes than a homeowner doesn't make it "Greater good" heh
<jhicks> malls **** anyway
<US-Male> oh but taxes = good !
<Nemes> its bad that you guys let people like that get away with the kinda **** he spouts is all.
<DeDannan> Nemes, evidently his message hasn't circulated that much...I do tend to try and keep up on such things..this is news to me...
<jhicks> US-Male: mmm taxes
<Lupine> Nemes: I agree. But as long as they are not inciting actual violence, he has that right
<US-Male> hehehe
<MikeyD> ED wasnt supposed to benifit gov, it was to allow gov to seize land under conditions of energencies (war for example) or for devlopment due to delapidation or abuse (crackhouses for example)
<RustyFord> haha Us-Male
<RustyFord> CALEDONIA, Mich. - A woman who took an unpaid leave of absence from work to see her husband off to war with an Indiana National Guard unit has been fired after failing to show up for her part-time receptionist job the day following his departure.
<trompe> RustyFord: how do you argue that increased tax revenue isn't in the public interest?
<US-Male> who is Phelps ?
<jhicks> MikeyD: give 'em an inch...
<MikeyD> however, the blame lays solely on the people who have decided government needs to grow and grow instead of being limited in size and duty
<DeDannan> US-Male, the "godhatesfags" dip****
<jhicks> trompe: it allows govt to grow
<Lupine> trompe: eh? I think as general, increased taxation is bad.
<US-Male> oh
<MikeyD> and as much as i hate to say it
<MikeyD> republicans have more ED abuses under their belt than anyone else
<US-Male> I've never heard of him except on IRC
<CometBaby> rusty .. I bet that employer didn't want to see that action go public
<DeDannan> US-Male, me neither..but apparently he's a grave threat in the same league as the Islamic jihadists..
<trompe> jhicks: it's not the tax base (per se) that allows government to grow; it's the size of expenditure... if a new development is going to increase tax revenue, the government can lower other taxes
<jhicks> trompe: but they won't
<US-Male> DeDannan well he's probably a dip****, but then the world is full of those
<DeDannan> US-Male, yep
<jhicks> trompe: a healthy distrust of govt is good for you :)
<RustyFord> probably not=)
<RustyFord> Woah, Italy has come out against Iran
<RustyFord> Israel wants Iran expelled from the UN
<US-Male> I wonder if Miers was a fakeout from Day 1
<MikeyD> i want the UN expelled from the US
<trompe> jhicks: I do have a distrust of government... that doesn't mean that people should put their feet down and prevent development when they are offered market value compensation (or above-market value compensation) for compulsory acquisition of their land
<jhicks> US-Male: prolly so
<jhicks> trompe: we can agree to disagree
<RustyFord> even Spain came out against Iran
<MikeyD> politicians show constantly that they cant be trusted
<CometBaby> look how HAPPY the anti war activists are as they celebrate 2000 american deaths .. all smiles
<CometBaby> http://www.zombietime.com/2000_iraq_deaths_party/
<US-Male> her withdrawing today, .... the attacks seemed to have subsided already
<US-Male> she could have been confirmed
<jhicks> CometBaby: I'm antiwar and I'm not happy
<RustyFord> NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Although both marijuana and tobacco smoke are packed with cancer-causing chemicals, other qualities of marijuana seem to keep it from promoting lung cancer, according to a new report.
<MikeyD> if youre unhappy with the death toll in iraq, you only have one persont o blame
<trompe> jhicks: well, as a final thought, look at all the airports and hospitals that would not have been built without the exercise of an authority of eminent domain, and think about how many people would die without it
<MikeyD> thats saddam hussain himself
<jhicks> trompe: bah, too many airports
<US-Male> eiter she wasn't the "real nominee" or it's another case of Republicans giving up to easy
<US-Male> too
<RustyFord> if yer happy and you know it slap yerself
<jhicks> trompe: growth is overrated
<RustyFord> man i need breakfast and coffee
<MikeyD> the entire situation with this war could have been avoided provided he kept to his word and did what he was supposed to do
<compdoc> I always knew RustyFord was stoned
<hans_kung> lol
<Nemes> UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - More than 2,000 firms that did business with Iraq in the now-defunct U.N. oil-for-food program were involved in bribes and kickbacks to Saddam Hussein's government, a major report on the program said on Thursday.
<MikeyD> how can you have 11 years worth of violations and expect not to get called on it sooner or later
<Nemes> 2.000 firms
<trompe> jhicks: well, despite the increase in the cost of living, it's still popular... infrastructure growth is necessary
<Nemes> wow
<jhicks> trompe: says you
<RustyFord> i always knew compdoc was a cross dressing transvestite from trannsylvania
<DarthBurg> I tell ya, the CIA Leak inditements will come out friday at 5:00 pm
<CometBaby> with amin at the head of the pack
<MikeyD> its amazing how people wont hold people who do us harm to the same legal requirments we hold our own citizens to
<jhicks> trompe: with that mindset we'll be as crowded as Bangalore.
<CometBaby> I mean annan
<trompe> jhicks: so we shouldn't build airports and hospitals, and unemployment and disease should be allowed to increase, so that some people can stay in their homes, despite being offered compensation?
<JanetB> well, I am sad Miers did not stay
<CometBaby> freudian slip there :)
<CometBaby> lol
<jhicks> trompe: sounds great
<MikeyD> "ok, if we catch you with cocaine 200 more times, were going to write you a letter telling you to stop"
<US-Male> JanetB I think she would have been fine
<MikeyD> you dont see cops doing that
<Nemes> man if its that many firms [2 thousand of them] that were taking bribes and kickbacks, then that whole program was just one big shady deelings club.
<jhicks> trompe: may people might even stop breeding like rats someday
<MikeyD> yeah, because the UN is just a powerhouse of honesty and integrity
<Bloc> welp guess i was right miers was bunk
<MikeyD> =)
<US-Male> she may appear to act "moderate" but it's how she votes that matters to me
<JanetB> US-Male.. I had not made up my mind, but... I was willing to wait till I saw the hearings
<US-Male> maybe she was a fakeout
<RustyFord> Idi Amin
<Bloc> the act of voting doesn't sell it for me
<Bloc> actually engaging in deliberation
<RustyFord> i wonder if N***er and Annan are kissing cousins
<US-Male> to me, the only important thing about a SC jusice is their votes
<Bloc> and recording for prosperity sake what the process each judge goes through for every case
<US-Male> and how long they live
<RustyFord> er more like were i geuss
<Bloc> is much much more important
<DarthBurg> "The radical right wing of the Republican Party killed the Harriet Miers nomination," said Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada, who had recommended Miers to the president. "They want a nominee with a proven record of supporting their skewed goals."
<RustyFord> HAHAHAHAHHA
<RustyFord> boy that Harry Reid cracks me up
<Bloc> while bump no a logs like thomas has no record...he just sits there and votes at the end
<DarthBurg> I really hate being told that as a Republican, wanting Courts to intrepret the law, instead of making it, I am wanting an activist court.
<US-Male> some people feel a need to delberate for long periods, others may only need short periods
<DarthBurg> lets be real clear here,
<Bloc> US-Male, some people don't say jack ****
<hans_kung> Bloc, Thomas has never written a majority decision has he? I think maybe one?
<RustyFord> I say we make an activist court and illegalise democrats
<jhicks> DarthBurg: yew leeeberal!
<TimothyW> DarthBurg : no the Right Wing didn't kill the Nomination. She decided that the Nomination wasn't hers.
<US-Male> Bloc, that's fine with me
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