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<OcDoc> panini: not quite true ... a proton can degenerate tomorrow
<CometBaby> I don't defend them .. I don't oppose them.
<ChaosMage> we should change our name
<OcDoc> panini: they just don't very often
<ChaosMage> from United States of America
<OcDoc> that's the meaning of "half life"
<ChaosMage> to Republic of America
<MikeyD> vibrators = the devil = outlawed
<Oax> anyhow. nambla should (and does, i think) get equal protection under the law. courts don't bring them up on charges of just "being nambla". they get charged for crimes. as far as I know
<CometBaby> I think it is stupid to say that they have to be scratched off of monuments or that things have to be torn down or moved because of them.
<bmc> we dont really fit the def. of republic anymore
<panini> OcDoc: i'm well aware of it
<OcDoc> panini: oh, that's good ...
<MikeyD> well, atleast were not banning piggy banks yet
<MikeyD> or are we?
<CometBaby> and on the other hand .. okay .. go ahead and put them in the schools .. but be ready to see the tenants of Wicca put up there too.
<Herzen> http://www.kanwa.com/defr/
<CometBaby> its a door they should not open
<MikeyD> i know thats popular these days
<OcDoc> Mikey: my wife accuses me of trying to stuff a marshmellow in her piggy bank
<ChaosMage> well wicca has some pretty sensible tenants really
<OcDoc> sometimes
<MikeyD> you know
<ChaosMage> the three fold rule and do as thou wilst as long as it harm none
<OcDoc> Chaos: do they pay rent?
<ChaosMage> hardehar
<CometBaby> Chaos well I am not religious
<panini> tenets not tenants
<ChaosMage> you typo'd it first
<OcDoc> ty
<bmc> why do we have to put all religions on the same level, its the same with language, there is 'official' one, but everyone knows english is the language and christianity is the religion
<bmc> no official*
<Maryusme> religion = evil
<MikeyD> if people made up their own minds about religion and minded their own business about it, the nation would be alot better off
<MikeyD> i dont think religion is evil
<ChaosMage> The whole conservative platform is based off the bibble
<panini> Maryusme: so you fear religion?
<OcDoc> Mikey: I do
<MikeyD> i think the people who deliver religious doctrine in the form of control are
<DeDannan> ChaosMage, it is?
<Maryusme> i believe religion is the cause of alot of suffering
<ChaosMage> da
<bmc> our government itself is based on christian ideology and principles
<bmc> according to the very people who created it
<MikeyD> no, people imposing religion on others is evil
<DeDannan> ChaosMage, "Love thy neighbor as thyself"..where's that in the platform?
<MikeyD> nonexistant
<ChaosMage> DeDannan: tis the basis of all law
<MikeyD> my religion > your religion
<pilgrim`> I believe in the truth as described by the one true god: Huitzlicotchlipotchli!
<Lupine> hans: naw, i rarely talk about them shooting in the head.
<MikeyD> thats what it comes down to these days
<hans_kung> A spelling NAZI moment, <<a lot >> is two words. always has been. always will be. we now return you to the regular #political chat. Thank you <G>
<ChaosMage> pilgrim: and which truth is that
<hans_kung> a <===========> lot.
<bmc> congress has even declared the bible the word of god
<Lupine> now, with some of the regulars here, I do tend to cap them in their buttocks thou..
<Lupine> kind of like a love pat on the ***
<MikeyD> christians are quite effective in that
<ChaosMage> hans_kung : alotalotalotalotalot
<ChaosMage> bwaahhahahaa
<hans_kung> :P
<panini> my god (Cthulhu) can beat up your god
<MikeyD> shows you how smart congress is
<pilgrim`> Chaos come up ont he pyramid, I will bring a jade knife and you will find out duckie ;)
<bmc> its not ktulu ?
<MikeyD> i cant believe these zealots get elected
<ChaosMage> pilgrim: are you sure, I think you just made it up
<pilgrim`> Nyrlathotep eats you for your sins
<OcDoc> all your gods are bogus
<ChaosMage> Nyralathotep is a slut
<bmc> would you all consider patrick henry important and representative of what the people founding this nation thought?
<pilgrim`> Chaos I would suggest a review of Aztec People of the Sun Alphonos Caso Univ of OK Press 1977
<OcDoc> bmc: no
<ChaosMage> pilgrim: yeah but that would be work
<Oax> i'm sure the sodomy laws would fall fast if they were actually enforced
<bmc> why not?
<pilgrim`> r any good refrence on MesoAmerican theology
<bmc> the orator of the revolution
<OcDoc> bmc: he was an extremist
<MikeyD> im not even sure as to why there are sodomy laws
<bmc> OcDoc exactely
<ChaosMage> MikeyD: it says not to in the bibble
<OcDoc> bmc: he temporarily swayed the populace in an emotional crisis
<MikeyD> im sure it has something to do with religious zealots tho
<ChaosMage> one of pauls epistles probably
<hans_kung> anyone here for Judge Judy to be named to the S.C. Personally, it'd be great to hear "Do I have STUPID written on my forehead" uttered from the SC bench ;)
<bmc> OcDoc how about the first supreme court justice?
<MikeyD> dude, religion is a personal standpoint, not something to go around imposing on people like your name was jerry falwell
<OcDoc> most americans were quite happy or at least not very unhappy with the King of England
<ChaosMage> or maybe a pope said not to
<pilgrim`> there are sodomy admonitions in the Pentetuch also in the NT
<bmc> OcDoc ben franklin?
<ChaosMage> OcDoc: The revolutionists would have flipped their wig if they saw what it was like today
<OcDoc> bmc: there were many christians among the founders
<MikeyD> and obviously those sodomy laws worked just as the drug laws have
<Oax> panini i guess they make their own laws
<ChaosMage> with the huge income tax and all the other taxes
<Oax> Vibrator Vice
<MikeyD> zealots are ****ing stupid
<pilgrim`> Cthulu is a wise diety; he does not care what yoru sins are; he eats your soul just the same
<ChaosMage> they made a system that managed to tax the people more than old king english ever did
<bmc> even the self-proclaimed atheists and deists recognized this nation was founded on christian principles
<bmc> even pushed for christianity to be taught in schools
<pilgrim`> I...BELIEVE!
<MikeyD> doesnt make it right
<Lupine> Supporters say such suits, deemed baseless by a judge for flimsy facts or faulty interpretations of the law, are a waste of court time and mostly a bonanrisen as a result, according to Rep. Lamar Smith (search), R-Texas, the bill's sponsor
<MikeyD> personally, people need to keep that **** to themselves
<OcDoc> the pilgrims came here to avoid being repressed in their repression of others
<Oax> wow crazy lag. it's all catching up right now
<ChaosMage> Lupine: won't p***
<ChaosMage> a lot of congressmen were probably lawyers
<pilgrim`> Help! help I'm being Repressed!
<ChaosMage> they need to keep the big bucks
<bmc> tolerance is not acceptance
<bmc> not accepting is not repressing
<ChaosMage> the legal system was designed to easily allow rich people to get out of crimes
<Oax> I don't see how they determine "frivolous" and the lawyers will demand some sort of appeals process
<pilgrim`> just becasue some watery tart lobs him a scimitar...
<ChaosMage> Its an opinion
<MikeyD> the way it is now sure, but it wasnt designed around that
<panini> but that watery tart was hot
<Oax> yeah it wasn't _designed_ that way. just worked out like that
<ChaosMage> well I mean its ultimate design
<TheTailor> ChaosMage, no, it wasn't designed that way.
<ChaosMage> The design continued
<ChaosMage> to this day
<bmc> everybody is free to there beliefs, but they dont have a right to push them on the majority
<ChaosMage> to its ultimate state
<MikeyD> once upon a time, taxiation wasnt meant to punish acheivement
<MikeyD> but yet, it does now
<ChaosMage> so what poor people should pay more taxes than the rich?
<bmc> this is the way the collective majority feels, this is what we will teach
<bmc> this is what we will honor with plaques and statues and such
<MikeyD> taking words out of my mouth?
<MikeyD> clever
<bmc> this is what they will worship, thats called tolerance
<pilgrim`> taxation is an instrement of social redistribution . that is its 2nd greatest use. its 1st being to make politicans wealthy
<MikeyD> point out to me where i mentioned rich or poor
<bmc> you dont have to follow it, but this is the how collective majority feels
<pilgrim`> taxes are never levied for the benifit of the taxed
<ChaosMage> MikeyD: You were talking about taxes and you mentioned achivement which means wealth in reguards to taxes
<pilgrim`> any benifit derived is in spite of, not becasue of the system
<MikeyD> poor people can acheive and not be rich
<MikeyD> it depends on the individual and their desires
<ChaosMage> but they are not punished for it
<ChaosMage> the rich are currently taxed more
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