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<FreeTrade> money owed to him already when he was ceo
<Lupine> (CNN) -- U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan has expressed "dismay" over the Iranian president's comments urging the destruction of Israel.
<Lupine> Annan, in a statement issued Thursday, reminded "all member states that Israel is a long-standing member of the United Nations with the same rights and obligations as every other member."
<sym`> FreeTrade: Right, and democrats know this which is why they are *now* trying a new avenue to get him indicted
<FreeTrade> His stock options were given to a blind trust for a childrens charity or somethng.
<West`> dont even get started with haliburon and the other contractors, what a sham
<sym`> It's a fishing expidition
<Lupine> Ariel Sharon, in remarks issued Thursday by the Israeli government press office, said he believes any country that calls for the destruction of another cannot be a member of the United Nations
<FreeTrade> besides thats not relevant to this cia leak story.
<jhicks> West`: well, they ARE qualified to operate their line of business
<FreeTrade> this cia leak story stinks very badly.
<jhicks> experienced
<TimothyW> **** is happening fast.
<CometBaby> Well, dismay is about all you are gonna get from Koffi
<pilgrim`> Lupine so they can stiffen their backs and take their allouted number fo new Starbucks openign slike the rest of'em!
<West`> we pay a bunch of money to contractors that money could be going into the military, you dont need to pay someone $200 a day to drive fuel around, when the soilder is making 2k a month
<FreeTrade> And it stinks perhaps on the CIA side, (Definately) And maybe on the Bush side, I want to hear the final report.
<sym`> Democrats are fishing against Frist/Delay/Cheney/Rove/Libby to try and come up with *some* kind of indictment so they can claim victory in discrediting the administraion
<jhicks> CometBaby: At least I found out Volvo was paying off Saddam :)
<sym`> It's a pure political move
<West`> jhicks im not talking about the qualifications, sure they are
<jhicks> sym`: whine whine whine
<CometBaby> man
<sym`> They've already done so for Delay
<pilgrim`> West you wanna drive fuel? rememebr that contract driver who was almost beheaded?
<suna> volvo paying off saddam?
<West`> I think we should invest the money into the military, not to private companies supplanting the military
<jhicks> yep
<jhicks> Chrysler too
<Lupine> pil: there have been plenty of contractors who have been beheaded
<jhicks> Daimler Chrysler
<suna> whatever, volovs are still great cars
<suna> :P
<pilgrim`> Lupien I know :(
<jhicks> I can't WAIT to see who else
<West`> the army corp of engineers in iraq gets most of its protetion from a british private firm.
<FreeTrade> When I say Bush, I mean administration.. He had nothing to do nor any time to deal with false press stories being planted by valerie and joe.
<pilgrim`> Lupine
<sym`> West`: The military gets a lot of help from those private companies
<jhicks> suna: yuppie scum drives volvos!
<suna> ugly as all hell
<suna> but they'll run forever
<jhicks> hehe
<Lupine> I have a good friend who is serving in Iraq right now, making well past six figures providing private security
<pilgrim`> 1/2 the troops in Iraq are mercs
<West`> sym` help they wouldnt need of that money would be going into the military. :)
<pilgrim`> Lupine I knwo a few too
<Lupine> He can not tell me exactly what he is doing, I just know he is providing personal security for someone important in/around basra region
<sym`> West`: No, thats not what I ment
<jhicks> I bet Microsoft was paying Saddam too
<jhicks> bwahaha
<Lupine> He said that when he got there, all the US GI"s wanted to buy his equipment!! he's go tsome very cool toys ;-)
<suna> nice light cheap plasic coffin, but it gets me 38 mpg if i drive like a grandma on the freeway
<West`> sym` why have their truck drivers deliver beds at ridiculous prices when we could add a whole supply battalion for less cost.
<suna> :P
<sym`> West`: Private industry helps on many different levels with all kinds of tasks
<jhicks> This report should expose a LOT of hypocrisy
<pilgrim`> Sadaam's personal security devices ran windows....
<sym`> West`: I know nothing about "truck drivers"
<jhicks> 2200 companies
<suna> the only thing i like about suvs is they actually get the miles to gallon they claim, if you drive on road vs freeway the change isn't significant
<West`> sym` yes I know, but I think it weakens our military if we contract a bunch of our military service out.
<suna> you drive a lil honda the change is like 12 miles to the gallon
<TimothyW> was BP one of those Companies ?
<West`> what happens if the contractors feel its to dangerous and dont want to work, like in 04
<FreeTrade> Got to run.. Jhicks, we will have to see where it leads and then remember one other thing.. An indictment is not a conviction.
<jhicks> TimothyW: oh i'm sure
<TimothyW> in the report ?
<pilgrim`> I prefer a cl***ic VeeDub
<sym`> West`: There has always been military contracting
<pilgrim`> bbiab
<sym`> And there always will be
<jhicks> TimothyW: I bet Shell too
<West`> damn near everything stops, you cant order them to continue on.
<jhicks> friggin dutch
<Lupine> Pil: well, its not air cooled, but got an 86 VW
<Pickle> Bush should select the next nominee from the ninth circuit, just to piss off these idiots who torpedoes Meirs.
<West`> sym` I am just saying its a problem waiting to blow up :)
<TimothyW> jhicks : wrong.
<TimothyW> jhicks : BP wouldn't touch Iraq with 10 foot pole.
<West`> rofl 9th circuit
<jhicks> Pickle: hahaha
<jhicks> TimothyW: ok, well i bet shell was
<Lupine> but its fuel economy is well.. not so great.. but the performance is outstanding ;-)
<Lupine> Most of the oil companies in iraq, and with contracts were French/german/russian
<jhicks> TimothyW: I pray that Coca-Cola was too
<West`> sym a contractor working for a yr in iraq can make well over 100k where the soilder (with combat pay) makes around 36k
- prefers A&W Root Beer
<suna> yes, death to coca-cola
<suna> coke ****s
<Lupine> bah.. saddam deserves Pepsi!
<jhicks> Pepsi too
<suna> and all the lemon-lime alternatives are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sprite
<DeDannan> coke is better than pepsi
<sym`> West`: Comparing soldier pay and contractors is not accurate
<suna> siera mist > sprite, the albertsons brand > sprite
<suna> every lemon lime > sprite
<jhicks> DeDannan: you wouldn't say that if you lived in Atlanta
<sym`> West`: Those are comparisons you can't make
<Lupine> suna: If you mix "Coke with Lemon" and "coke with Lime".. do you get the same as mixing "coke" with "sprite"???
<West`> sym` when they are doing the same job sure it is.
<jhicks> They're PUSHY around here
<TimothyW> ***OHOLIC
<sym`> West`: No, you cannot
<suna> lupine: no idea, i don't drink coke
<West`> and we also pay for all their billeting and vehicles and ect.
<Pickle> I don't know if theses dumb*** ultra-rightwingers realize what they've done, but what they've done is give O'Connor a vote on a lot of key SCOTUS decisions, including parental notification.
<Pickle> Idiots.
<Lupine> pickle: Yep
<jhicks> Pickle: serves 'em right
<suna> i usually drive some lemon-lime, sprite if it's what's offered, or mountain dew
<suna> or water
<suna> usually water
<DeDannan> jhicks, there's several reasons I don't live in Atlanta :)
<Lupine> suna: wow, must be hard to drive those around
<jhicks> DeDannan: smart man
<West`> so its just like paying for the soilder, the contract covers their entire expense. with profit headnig home.
<suna> :P
<Exdeath> Not really Pickle, I think Owen or Rodgers Brown will be nominated
<sym`> West`: You're trying to compare a flat salary with the salary of a soldier
<jhicks> Georgia ****s
<suna> mountain dew does not lower my sperm count!@#%@#%
<Exdeath> She wasn't going to get the votes in the Senate to even be confirmed anyway
<jhicks> mountain dew is good, mmkay?
<suna> and so what if it does, the harder i have to work for kids the better:P
<Pickle> Exdeath: It doesn't matter at this point--they aren't going to get another nominee confirmed until into 2006. Meanwhile, O'Connor is going to be voting on a lot of important issues--against the conservative opinion.
<jhicks> DeDannan: Mississippi > Georgia
<TimothyW> jhicks : you would have rage against you don't know would you ?
<sym`> West`: You get deployment pay, for those who fly (not just pilots but loadmasters and air crew) get flight pay. There are also bonuses, on top of their enlistment pay
<DeDannan> jhicks, eh..Athens is nice..the mountains in the north are pretty...Tybee Island is cool...the rest I wouldnt give 10 cents for
<West`> well the contractor is not exactly flat, and soiler pay would be more flat, its the same every month + combat pay (which doesnt change often)
<jhicks> TimothyW: *syntax error*
<Exdeath> Pickle, I think the hearing will get underway in early December and probably conclude prior to the end of the year
<TimothyW> grr
<jhicks> hehe
<Exdeath> Only a few major cases will reach the bench within 2 months
<West`> bonuses if you sign back up, sym I have over 10 of my friends from High school that are in the military, with 8 gone or currently in iraq.
<Pickle> Exdeath: If they don't get someone in before thanksgiving, they don't get someone in until 2006 due to recess.
<jhicks> DeDannan: Athens *used* to be nice
<Pickle> They are ****ed.
<sym`> West`: Not always
<jhicks> DeDannan: now there are goose-stepping cops everywhere
<West`> I am only not there because of a perforated right ear drum. After spending 4 years in rotc.
<jhicks> that place is CRAWLING with cops
<Exdeath> Yeah, they won't get someone in before Thanksgiving obviously
<sym`> West`: The USAF offers mostly re-enlistment bonuses, but there are some in Army that offer sign-on bonuses
<Lupine> pickle: heh, bush should give a recess appointment to Meirs.. hahahaha
<sym`> Marines as well
<Exdeath> But someone will be confirmed prior to the first 2006 session
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