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<FreeTrade> Its a shame witchcraft was ever considered evil or criminal, but primitive minds prevailed at the time.
<FreeTrade> None were burnings.
<qpl> sorry mmealling only self authoratative right wingers here
<Katey> I see
<FreeTrade> And noone was executed solely for whitchcraft to my knowlege
<Katey> qpl, I'm no right winger
<jhicks> FreeTrade: if they had penicillin they wouldn't have been so freaked out about witches i bet
<Katey> :)
<FreeTrade> I have not studied this for awhile, but I know this, A LOT of mythology and conventional thinking about Salem is based on falsehoods.
<jhicks> Cotton Mather
<mmealling> qpl, hehe.... well, being a neo-libertarian myself I need some help since I don't trust my judgement about what a 2008 Democratic presidency would look like.
<FreeTrade> qpl, Why do you need to try to insult the channel ?
<Katey> what's a neo-libertarian?
<FreeTrade> Katey damned if I know and I am a political junkie.
<jhicks> http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/mather/devil.htm
<bmc> neo = new
<Katey> Some other guy told me that he's an "uber-libertarian" the other day
<DeDannan> Katey, most were executed by hanging..
<jhicks> Katey: a republican mugged by statism
<mmealling> Katey, someone that advocates a practical libertarian policy at home and a strong, interventionist foreign policy....
<DeDannan> one was "pressed" to death
<Katey> bmc, no ****?!?
<Katey> :)
<Katey> mmealling, wow. Interesting
<jhicks> Katey: neo == the matrix
<mmealling> Katey, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolibertarian
<Katey> Sounds sort of Neo-Con-ish
<mmealling> Katey, yes, that generally where we got the "neo" from.....
<DeDannan> 20 in all were executed
<Katey> DeDannan, did they make cider afterward?
<Katey> mmealling, ok.
<DeDannan> Katey, dont think so :)
<FreeTrade> My cursory re checking of history shows that there were no burnings, their were executions.
<FreeTrade> Burnings occurred in England
<jhicks> Katey: I stand by my definition of 'neo'
<Katey> FreeTrade, that might be where the confusion comes from
<jhicks> The Spanish were my favorite torturers
<FreeTrade> With the exception of Giles Corey--who was crushed to death for refusing to enter a plea of guilty or not guilty, the executed were hanged, not burned. In Colonial America, witchcraft was a felony punishable by death by hanging. However, in Europe witchcraft was considered heresy and punishable by burning at the stake.
<Katey> Torquemada!
<jhicks> yeah baybaee
<qpl> observations can sometimes be found insulting by those being observed
<FreeTrade> The first examinations took place March 1, 1692. The first trial for witchcraft under the Court of Oyer and Terminer was May 27, 1692. See the timeline for more important dates relating to the Salem witch trials.
<FreeTrade> When did the trials end?
<FreeTrade> Governor Phips dissolved the Court of Oyer and Terminer on October 29, 1692. A Superior Court of Judicature replaced it on November 25, 1692. The last witch trials were held in January 1693, and in May of the same year Gov. Phips pardoned the remaining accused. See the timeline for more important dates relating to the Salem witch trials.
<DeDannan> NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!
<jhicks> hahaha
<Katey> Colbert did a funny bit with Torquemada just the other day actually
<Katey> heh
<qpl> was my observation deficient?
<jhicks> DeDannan: I DEMAND IT!
<qpl> everyone here comes on there own authority
<FreeTrade> I bet phelps is the reincarnation ofd phips
<qpl> and everyone here is a rightwinger
<Katey> qpl, yeah, you were incorrect
<jhicks> Katey: Torquemada was reincarnated ya know
<bmc> im not a right-winger
<bmc> or left-winger
<jhicks> Katey: He goes by 'Al' these days
<Katey> hehe
<jhicks> Gonzales
<Katey> right
<jhicks> bwahaha
<FreeTrade> your welcome folks
<Katey> I figured I'd let someone else go there. :P
<jhicks> look mommie! the baby bounces too!
<FreeTrade> Now behave, no more warnings.
<jhicks> crap, it's my night to cook supper.
<qpl> if i was incorrect i wouldnt have gotten kicked, hmmm, must have hit a nerve with the self authoratating right wingers
<qpl> selah
<bmc> nancy boi
<bmc> put on an apron and go to work
<jhicks> bmc: supper is already cooking
<Katey> trolls really need to improve
<jhicks> Papa Johns!
<Katey> no standards
<FreeTrade> Here is a clay by witches (Self called) that 9 million were burned.
<FreeTrade> now this is absurd.
<FreeTrade> we must remember than in the 14th century 9 million was a ghastly huge population.
<jhicks> FreeTrade: is that counting the druids that rome took out?
<FreeTrade> Its still a huge population
<jhicks> oh, 14th century
<jhicks> no way that happened
<OcDoc> Free: that's adjusted for "population inflation"
<jhicks> the plague didn't even kill that many people
<FreeTrade> but back then it was like ****, Half the ****ing world ;) Well ok not half but it was significant, many countries were not that big
<OcDoc> jhicks: what's 60% of the world's population?
<jhicks> OcDoc: then or now?
<bmc> i dont think they had any kind of accurate census back then anyways, heh i bet half the people couldnt read or write, so theyd have to rely on headcounts
<FreeTrade> ocdoc haha, I love it, Like for "real dollars"
<OcDoc> far more than 9 million at the time
<OcDoc> Free: just so modern people can get an idea of the true harm done
<jhicks> oh
<jhicks> well killing people ****s
<eurolite> does it?
<jhicks> it's much better to enslave them
<bmc> blasphemy
<FreeTrade> OcDoc, the problem is its a lie by a group with a vested interest in exagerating it.
<OcDoc> hmmm ... there's a website that estimates population of the world for each century
<bmc> god condones a slow painful death for the wicked
<bmc> :P
<jhicks> OcDoc: ooh, ooh, url
<FreeTrade> Unless you consider jews witches because they didnt accept roman religious authority
<eurolite> without natural selection the world would be filled with morons
<DeDannan> OcDoc, yeah..its a very loose estimation...
<bmc> eurolite ummm?. :P
<FreeTrade> And all other heretics throughout history
<jhicks> FreeTrade: I believe jews were accused of witchcraft widely during the inquisition
<eurolite> morons who try to catch them self on fire or blow stuff up
<eurolite> deserve to die
<bmc> good ole witchhunts
<bmc> eheh
<jhicks> eurolite: when engaging in self-immolation one should not be stopped
<FreeTrade> jhicks, they were too smart. Actually I am not referring to the inquisition anyway
<jhicks> eurolite: as long as it's just an isolated torching anyway
<bmc> what about salem witch hunt
<eurolite> if you have an IQ below 90 and are above 12 years old you should be naturally eliminated
<STINGRAY`> free heya
<eurolite> would just save a lot of bull****
<bmc> so retards should die?
<STINGRAY`> free got an air card its cool when no wireless this works great
<eurolite> yeah
<jhicks> eurolite: you realized that would destroy congress?
<bmc> how thoughtful of you
<jhicks> hmm
<jhicks> sounds useful
<eurolite> what possible positive outcome could you gain from retarded people
<eurolite> they increase the problems with depletion of all our resourses
<bmc> we dont exist to benefit others
<eurolite> and provide nothing in return
<jhicks> eurolite: they aren't so bad
<bmc> and its not YOUR resources
<jhicks> I have a retarded cousin
<eurolite> if you dont provide something to the community you should be locked up or something
<bmc> its their resources also
<eurolite> homeless people who are homeless because of there own fault
<eurolite> and not someone elses
<eurolite> like drug addicted morons
<eurolite> should also be eliminated
<DeDannan> eurolite, and what do you provide to your community?
<jhicks> eurolite: some homeless people like being homeless
<eurolite> I work 9 hours a day
<eurolite> and pay tax's
<STINGRAY`> i can cure world hunger. i would tell the people chew their food more slowley and take smaller bites
<jhicks> STINGRAY`: and eat pigeons
<STINGRAY`> dedan heya
<DeDannan> howdy STINGRAY`
<STINGRAY`> jhicks hahahah


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