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<DarthBurg> Homedepot plans on selling record numbers of pieces of plywood.
<Disbelief> JustHangi - what, you think that oil's 'natural' price is $30/barrel ? and that the extra $30 is just a premium ?
<astrodog> hans: Sure.
<DarthBurg> I just do not see these myth's you espouse
<TimothyW> Cathy344 : Global Population Control Theory is a wacked out Conspiracy Theory. That is unbelieveable.
<Disbelief> DarthBurg -- "the last five years the economy has rocked" ? are you serious ?
<Swigert> hey guys
<RustyFord> hahah the media is trying to drum up rage over FEMA's reaction to Hurricane Wilma
<hans_kung> astrodog, I think just a few counties in Ohio and Kerry would have won, of course, that's another topic in of itself. The shady happenings in Ohio.
<JustHangi> Disbelief yeah...basically. there's a big speculation premium at the moment. its not a supply shortage
<Disbelief> DarthBurg "rocked" ?
<Cathy344> TimothyW: I was reponding to lgcbmb's quip about thorwing a wa and everybody coming.
<DeDannan> hans_kung, kinda hard to win without carrying Texas or Florida..
<DarthBurg> Disbelief i have the financial numbers to prove it. Sir.
<hans_kung> DeDannan, yah I think so
<Swigert> I have a computer problem - I think my explorer.exe file on my laptop is corrupted. I can't check directories
<TimothyW> oh
<Katey> DeDannan, yeah
<hans_kung> Considering how many Presidents have come from the South, you wonder who really won the Civil War :P
<Disbelief> justhangi - so you believe that speculation alone is driving the price of oil ?
<astrodog> Its hard, but not undoable. You'd have to carry Ohio, Illinois, Michigan, etc.
<Cathy344> Apparently, even my fingers are congested.
<Disbelief> justhangi - do you believe all speculation is inherently incorrect ?
<hans_kung> poor Cathy :( advil helps
<TimothyW> hans_kung : The North is holding the Southerners accountable.
<TimothyW> with giving them power.
<DarthBurg> Swigert some nasty bugs going around.
<Cathy344> So does the capital-N, small-Y, and big, fukin' Q.
<JustHangi> Disbelief no...but its certainly having a huge effect at the moment.
<Cathy344> I love NyQuil./
<DarthBurg> do a sweep on it, and slap the IE 6 pack on it
<Disbelief> JustHangi - when will this moment subside ?
<RustyFord> i just had to restore my ****, ended up with that plaguing Winfixer/vundo crap
<Cathy344> hans_kung: The Bushes are transplanted M***achusettsans.
<DarthBurg> oil is not going to cheapen up until the enviromental nuts get a clue.
<hans_kung> Lets see Timothy... Johnson, Carter, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II. for six terms. In the last 40 years. That's quite a run for Southerners.
<RustyFord> wifes friend was sending attached email from her work
<hans_kung> wait, seven terms!
<hans_kung> 28 years out of 40.
<astrodog> Darth: Oil won't cheapen even if Greenpeace starts drilling wells themselves.
<DeDannan> hans_kung, havent been that many since 1865 really...Wilson, LBJ, Carter...and Dubya...
<hans_kung> almost 3/4
<DarthBurg> astrodog nonsense.
<DeDannan> oh, and Billy Jeff
<DarthBurg> astrodog hell TWO refineries, Greenpeace owned, would help
<hans_kung> but for the modern times DeDannan with current voting habits, isn't that impressive still?
<JustHangi> Disbelief thats a whole nother sort of crystal ball. in 1999, it wasnt hard to tell that speculation was driving AMZN stock price....but guessing the date it would end was virtually impossible
<Cathy344> We shoulda been drilling for oil in the ANWR the week the debates started about it.
<astrodog> Darth: Refineries do not impact the price of crude oil. ;)
<DarthBurg> astrodog such ignorance from one who claims to work in the Oil field scares me
<astrodog> Crude oil is the stuff that they get from the ground. NOT the stuff they get from refineries.
<hans_kung> there weren't any states out west during the 1880s really except California, Oregon and Washington everything else was tumbleweeds :P
<DarthBurg> astrodog, really? are you sure about that?
<DeDannan> hans_kung, speaks to demographics as well..increased populations in southern states..particularly texas and florida
<astrodog> Darth: Absolutly.
<hans_kung> yah true
<Cathy344> hans_kung: And Indians.
<sym`> DarthBurg's hair is an oilfield
<hans_kung> New York state was the big item for candidates
<sym`> ;p~
<sym`> But don't tell him!
<JustHangi> Disbelief but it would have been foolish to ***ert, in 1999, that AMZN was being driven by a renaissance of reading in america
<hans_kung> Cathy344, could they vote though? :P
<DeDannan> hans_kung, yep..now its California
<DarthBurg> astrodog ok. so if we open up two new refineries, it would not effect the price of crude. is that your story?
<astrodog> Darth: A major refinery shortage, would actually depress the cost of crude oil.
<sym`> Labstah!
<Cathy344> hans_kung: Yep. With arrows. They were outvoted by bullets, though.
<astrodog> Darth: It would probably increase it slightly, due to the increase in crude demand, and at the same time, lower the price of gas, and whatnot.
<DarthBurg> astrodog now wait, you just said refineries do not effect drude, which is it?
<DarthBurg> astrodog you can not have it both ways ya know, you can admit i was right now ya know
<astrodog> Refineries are consumers of crude. if you add more, there's more demand for crude, and if anything, a higher price.
<Disbelief> justhangi - i wouldn't ***ert that. its not even a valid comparison. a stock is not the same as a commodity. there is an empiracal upswing in oil demand and use.
<DarthBurg> bingo
<astrodog> You suggested that more refineries would REDUCE the price of crude.
<astrodog> Which they would not.
<DarthBurg> so refineries DO effect the price of crude, so there is hope for you
<Disbelief> brb
<DarthBurg> did I?
<DarthBurg> I am sorry to have given that impression, basic econ 101 would say crude goes up as refinery's do
<sym`> YOU DID!
<DeDannan> why would oil co's want to build more refineries..they're making out like bandits as it is...
<astrodog> Darth: Alright. Looks like we had some miscommunication there. Heh.
<Lupine> astro: newer gen refineries actually can help decrease the cost. Why? The newer ones are able to effectively use "less sweet" crude for US air emissions stnadards
<sym`> Yea, but liberals flunked ECO 101
<DarthBurg> DeDannan yes, why would they want to increase the supply
<JustHangi> astrodog we dont see supply shortages anywhere in the world. Supply fears isnt driving this price. Just in time production does shift to, e.g., OPEC, a lot of leverage in terms of marginal prices per barrel....but much of it is just speculation
<sym`> Whoops lag! my bad ;p
<astrodog> Lup: It wouldn't drop the price of crude though, just the price of gas.
<Lupine> astro: so, the shift between sweet and non sweet crude will probably lower the price on sweet a bit
<DarthBurg> and refineries take union labor, thats pricey to
<astrodog> Heh.
<Lupine> astro: less demand for the most expensive sweet crude, and we can use more of "the cheap stuff"
<sym`> Bio diesel can cut costs
<sym`> In m*** transportation and shipping
<astrodog> Lup: Sure, but you'd increase the price of the cheap stuff. Probably to the point that some places that used to use it, would use sweeter oil. It'd all balance out.
<DarthBurg> thats the beauty of markets
<DeDannan> JustHangi, probably 15% or so of the price of crude/bbl is speculation..
<DeDannan> maybe more...
<JustHangi> DeDannan difference of opinion...thats what makes a market. place your bets
<DarthBurg> *I* just happen to be of the mind more americans should be able to own oil wells, those royalty checks have been SMOKING
<astrodog> Darth: They cost a few million to drill.
<astrodog> Heh.
<Glock21> bbl
<JustHangi> astrodog so...who's the next nominee
<DarthBurg> thanks to envirmometal religion
<astrodog> Darth: Uh.
<astrodog> No, they're just expensive as hell to drill. Environmental regs aside.
<DeDannan> JustHangi, no thanks..I think that game is rigged :)
<DarthBurg> cost effective
<astrodog> Darth: Heh.
<astrodog> One of the places I work for, recouped drilling cost on a new well in THREE goddamn months this year.
<astrodog> Ususually it takes atleast a couple years.
<astrodog> heh
<JustHangi> ok you political geniuses. on what day will Miers withdraw her nomination.
<astrodog> Just: Friday.
<JustHangi> astrodog be safer...express that as a conditional
<astrodog> strcmp(Myers->WithdrawlDate, "Friday");
<astrodog> ;)
<JustHangi> lol...the answer is...on whatever day indictments are handed up
<astrodog> Or, if you'd prefer.
<Cathy344> JustHangi: The day after Hell freezes over. Won't help her, though, cause she won't be confirmed anyway. She'll be the Robert Bork fo the 21st century.
<astrodog> strncmp(Myers->WithdrawlDate, "Friday", 6);
<Swigert> hey
<Cathy344> astrodog: Jokes don't generally go over very well when they're written in C.
<astrodog> Cathy: They do pretty well on the BSD channels that way.
<Swigert> I keep getting explorer.exe file error messages when I try to open my directories. What's the problem and how do I solve it?
<Cathy344> That's them wacky BSD types, though.
<Null_Ptr> astrodog shouldn't that be strcpy
<JustHangi> astrodog more like...while (not indictment) loop; withdraw
<astrodog> JustH: while ( !indictment ) { sleep(10); } withdraw(Myers);
<Cathy344> while (Miers.credibility > 0) { for (media) vamp;}
<astrodog> Heh.
<astrodog> Hmm.
<Null_Ptr> while (!indicted(rove) && !indicted(liddy)) { act(normal); }
<astrodog> Oooh! I got one!
<Swigert> I keep getting explorer.exe file error messages when I try to open my directories. What's the problem and how do I solve it?
<Cathy344> Oh dear god. WHen will the insanity end?
<Null_Ptr> Swigert your windows is fubar
<Cathy344> Swigert: Install Nautilus.
<Billy^> reboot
<Null_Ptr> reformat
<Billy^> Linux
<Null_Ptr> in fact you should reformat daily
<Cathy344> Nautilus being part of GNOME, you'll have to install GNOME first.
<Null_Ptr> windows practically requires it
<CryArvach> FIOS will be down in my neck of woods in 1 year or less
<astrodog> int prosecutor( int numIndictments; giant_mutex(allPoliticalDiscourse); investigate(); numIndictments = investigateresults(); return numIndictments; }
<Null_Ptr> CryArvach i shall have it before you do :P
<Cathy344> Only way to permanently exorcise Windows from a hard drive is a 2000 degree blast furnace and a pint of goats blood, but the hard drive won't be of much use after you pour the goat's blood over it.
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