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<Kamakize> too bad it isnt like 2007 or 2008... it would really effect the election
<Nemes> heh
<AzPointer> can you push a button for an orgasm
<Lotec> Prolly nothing much will happen. Libby might get some trouble, but who even heard of him a year ago?
<Kamakize> it is called the g-spot or prostate
<Nemes> the dems are hoping to win one of the houses back by then heh so they can investigate bush and his cronies, at least thats according to al franken heh
<Kamakize> NYT is saying Rove wont be touched..
<Kamakize> but it is all rumors till i hear the truth in the release
<Timur> see, that's just another sign of the NYTimes' blatant liberal bias
<Kamakize> Nemes.... I think some investigation needs to be done
<Nemes> me to BUT i dont hate bush
<Lotec> The Dems don't have much going if hoping for mud to sling is the high point of their month
<Kamakize> i dont HATE bush.. i did like him
<AzPointer> I'm a little concerned about all the press leaks
<Nemes> i think in many ways the bush pres has been good for the states
<Timur> if they were proper conservatives, they'd support the idea that everyone is subject to the laws of the land! not these elitist wine-sipping liberal apologists for Rove
<Kamakize> i just dont like the job he is doing.. and there is way to much crap going on
<Nemes> but then again in other ways I think the guy and his cronies are bloody dangerous
<Kamakize> heck even if bush got indicted, and convicted and was still a sitting president, he could pardon himself.
<Lotec> Kamikaze, well maybe you can have Hillary next
<Kamakize> Nemes.. Explain how haliburton, who Cheney Was VP of untill the election
<Nemes> but like i always say i aint american so basicaly the only think that really interests me about bush and his gov is his foreign policies
<Kamakize> Lotec... dont scare me like that
<AzPointer> Kamy get a grip, or go back to 5th grade govt study
<Nemes> anything else doesnt really concern me
<Lotec> Kamikaze, if you help tear down Bush, you might help her win
<Kamakize> Hell they are talking maybe Condi to run
<Nemes> she has said she doesnt want to
<AzPointer> so
<Kamakize> Cheney is NOT going to run.
<Nemes> cheney is to ill
<Lotec> Condi says she doesn't want it.
<Nemes> fullstop
<Kamakize> Allen from VA may run.
<Kamakize> then I may vote for him.. I like what he did with the state
<Nemes> america wouldnt elect a pres like cheney being so ill as he is.
<Nemes> not a safe bet you see.
<Kamakize> of course not
<AzPointer> Kamy are a Jap
<Kamakize> Cheney coudlnt get elected iin a one man race
<Lotec> I doubt Cheney wants it either
<Kamakize> he prob would want it if he was healthy
<astrodog> What's the topic regarding?
<Nemes> hillary V condi would of been such a good race though don't ou think?
<Nemes> :)
<Lotec> Just jump in, no one knows
<Nemes> imagine the *****ing in the press if that was the case
<Kamakize> Nemes a Younger Nader would win then
<Nemes> the press/media in general would have a field day with a race between condi and hillary heh
<Lotec> I don't know of a woman that I could be comfortable with.
<AzPointer> Kami?
<Kamakize> I still thisk that it sint right that in 2000 and 2004 then did not allow Nader to debate
<Nemes> I think it would be to much for coemt though if hillary ran, we would have to mkedicate comet daily
<Nemes> hehe
<Kamakize> Hillary in my opinion would be worse than Bush
<Lotec> Nader has always been a nut, but I guess a lot of nuts want someone to represent them
<Kamakize> If though i liked Bill
<Kamakize> Lote, he did a lot for the US
<Kamakize> he got many things brought up and p***ed
<AzPointer> He did alot
<Lotec> For a couple of years and then kept going to the point of absurdity
<AzPointer> Kami
<Kamakize> Freedom Of Infomation act, Highway saftey , Food Saftey
<Kamakize> Az?
<AzPointer> he ran our country ino the ground
<AzPointer> into
<Kamakize> NadeR?
<Kamakize> no he did not.
<Lotec> He's a nut
<AzPointer> billy and ralf
<AzPointer> as in puke
<AzPointer> kami are you a female?
<Kamakize> no
<Lotec> The fact that he sued a lot of people doesn't make him president material
<Kamakize> But you have to admit being banned from the debates in 2000 was wrong.
<Lotec> No, they have draw the line somewhere
<Kamakize> the line is only the two parties then?
<Lotec> There's no constitutional right to be in a debate
<AzPointer> so we should draw the line at the homeless guy?
<Kamakize> noo but with the support he had in 2000....
<Kamakize> andhe was ruled he should have been able to debate way after the 2000 election
<AzPointer> 3 percent is huge
<Kamakize> for a 3rd party yes
<Kamakize> but he didnt have the way to reach the m***es
<Kamakize> we have to get out of this "worst of two evils" ****
<AzPointer> keep pushing the issue
<Lotec> The m***es would have hidden. They didn't need him reaching them
<Kamakize> So you think a two party system is fine?
<Kamakize> or do you think a 1 party system - republicans is all we need?
<Lotec> A ton of people run in the primaries.
<Kamakize> yah the dem and republican
<Kamakize> that is why there are primays for the parties early in the year
<Lotec> Perot, managed to give us a president that couldn't get half the votes. That doesn't sound like a good thing to me
<Kamakize> that means there is a problem then
<AzPointer> 3 percent of people in the us ,maybe more because we don't know the true population of west verginia, have *** with sheep
<Kamakize> Heck Iraq back a few years ago one guy had 100%
<Kamakize> Over in Germany they have run offs
<Kamakize> a bunch run then the two top duke itout
<Kamakize> same as in Mexico
<AzPointer> kami thats your voting base
<Lotec> Yeah, some other country ought to be our model. Let me know when you find one with a better country than ours
<Kamakize> All i am saying is there shouldnt be a "free p***" always to thew same two parties and the others have zero chance
<Kamakize> Lotec so having a election where the popular vote doesnt mean ****?
<Timur> the two party system makes for a more stable system
<Timur> vs., say, the parliamentary model, which can and often is notoriously unstable
<AzPointer> Kami you had your chance 6 years ago
<Lotec> Kam, so puch for an amendment to drop the electoral college system
<Kamakize> So we should BAN all parties except the Dems and Republicans?
<Kamakize> Lotec, I think in 2000 they tried and it failed
<Lotec> I won't vote for any of the others
<Kamakize> lotec why not?
<Kamakize> Never vote for an Independent?
<Lotec> Because I think it's a bad idea
<Timur> Kam: they're not banned
<Kamakize> voting for an indie?
<Timur> they're just not given any real power
<Kamakize> voting for an indie is a bad idea?
<Timur> depends on the goal
<AzPointer> Kami I think we should have a NASCAR party, then we will get some thing done
<Lotec> I didn't say they should be banned. I said I won't vote for them
<Timur> if the goal is voting for an electable candidate, then yes
<Timur> if the goal is to vote for someone to make a point, despite nonelectability of the candidate, then no
<Kamakize> well some Independents are electable
<Timur> not many on the national level
<Kamakize> Timur so i should not vote with heart/brain but the horse i think will win?
<AzPointer> fist fights and stuff
<Kamakize> many people vote in the election on "the horse they think will win"
<Timur> Kam: there are usually 2 horses that are electable in a given election (once the primaries are over); one votes for the candidate one likes/agrees with more
<IamKing> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Beauty may only be skin deep but it's apparently enough to carry an election, a new study says. Handsome male candidates had a 56 percent chance of winning an election while their less dashing counterparts had a 44 percent chance, according Daniel Hamermesh, the study's author and an economics professor at the University of Texas.
<IamKing> Hamermesh studied the election of officers for the American Economic ***ociation, a professional group, from 1996 through 2004. "It was very clear that being good-looking helped and also helped more for men than for women, and that seems to be something one finds in looking at the effect of beauty in other outcomes such as earnings and wages," Hamermesh said.
<IamKing> He did not have a clear answer for why that was. This is Hamermesh's sixth study on the impact of good looks, with others examining the cl***room, the business arena and the legal profession. He asked four outside observers -- three men and one woman -- to rate the attractiveness of 312 photographs used by 216 candidates on ballots.
<IamKing> The same people running for office several times sent in different pictures each time. The better their photograph, the more likely they were to do well, according to the study, released on Wednesday on the National Bureau of Economics Research Web site.
<Kamakize> yes in 2004 i voted for Kerry and 2000 I voted for Nader.
<Kamakize> In 2000 I did not like Bush nor Gore.
<Timur> Nader. ;p
<Kamakize> I could not vote for either one
<Lotec> Kam, I guess we don't need to know anything more about you than
<Kamakize> I knew Nader would not win. but it was *MY* vote
<AzPointer> lotec i MAY HAVE SOMETHING a NASCAR party, sorry for the caps, got excited
<IamKing> DARTH NADER!
<Timur> I couldn't vote for nader on principle
<Kamakize> Lotec then ban me i guess i cant talk in here then.
<AzPointer> trivia question, what car was nader against
<Kamakize> Carvoir
<RustyFord> Corvair
<Kamakize> bad spelling. but that was it
<AzPointer> Rusty!
<RustyFord> s'up man?
<Timur> I could see Nader as, say, head of the EPA
<Lotec> Actually, I think Nader was a useful candidate. He took votes from the correct place
<Timur> but not as president
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