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<FreeTrade> I think it was kayy ?
<TheTailor> FreeTrade, and they don't know when it was delivered.
<gopp> Disbelief or do you not counter that
<FreeTrade> brb daughter
<RustyFord> hell, the kids were playing in the Yellow cake after the invasion
<b1ff> RustyFord know what i think this was? an operation from a rogue element in the CIA involving plame and wilson whose purpose was, using documents faked by the french, undermine a sitting president
<TheTailor> Yeah, Kaye.
<b1ff> to undermine, that is
<Rockfish> Katey, Mayagi, the former prime minister of Iraq says he believes Saddam was trying to buy uranium from him
<gopp> Disbelief so if thier was yellow cake, and some people did see it was he lyong
<RustyFord> b1ff yeap, i have been saying that all along
<Katey> b1ff, Ah, I've seen that theory in another place recently
<Disbelief> RockFish - well if this administration valued integrity and the rule of law, bush would fire these criminals and cut his losses while he can. as it is, he's just allowing them to destroy his already weak presidency for him. its pathetic.
<Katey> I guess it's making the rounds
<RustyFord> not quite as precisely as you put it, but all the same
<lucifer_> the wmd iraq discussion never gets old? :)
<rond> Katey :)
<gopp> Disbelief can you prove it a crime
<Rockfish> Disbelief, since when does an indictment mean anyone's a criminal?
<gopp> Disbelief what crime has be brought UP
<Katey> rond, ;)
<gopp> Disbelief what crime has be brought UP
<TheTailor> Disbelief, Rove isn't a criminal if he isn't charged.
<MikeyD> HA
<TheTailor> And CONVICTED
<b1ff> the dems wanrt this to be a trial on the war. ha ha ha.
<MikeyD> October 27, 2005 - The October issue of Seventeen Magazine magazine is too racy for the Albertsons' supermarket chain.
<MikeyD> The magazine have been pulled because of an article entitled, "Vagina 101." Close-up drawings detail various parts of the female anatomy, under the headline "Owner's Manual."
<gopp> Disbelief what crime did he get convicted of
<TheTailor> Disbelief, that is also true of Libby.
<b1ff> and now - saddam was kind of supporting the dnc when clinton was in office. can you imagine that?
<lucifer_> MikeyD: outrageous.
<MikeyD> thats just great stuff
<compdoc> someday, I'll have my own vagina
<gopp> Disbelief answer the question
<MikeyD> parents want *** ed in school, but if a magazine does it, it cant be tolerated
<gopp> Disbelief answer the question? what crime has been brought Up
<b1ff> Marc Rich was involved in oil for food brokering - made a bunch of money - donated some to clinton and the dnc
<RustyFord> b1ff i also want to know about the CIA's "Dummy corporation" and what dealings it had with Iraq
<MikeyD> how hypocritical
<Nemes> Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and IBM unveiled the Blue Gene/L supercomputer Thursday and announced it's broken its own record again for the world's fastest supercomputer.
<Nemes> The 65,536-processor machine can sustain 280.6 teraflops.
<RustyFord> that Plame is a part of
<Nemes> nice :)
<lucifer_> MikeyD: i bet the next headline is "Girl Found Looking In Mirror"
<b1ff> RustyFord im hoping the truth about "abel danger" comes out too
<MikeyD> no ****
<Disbelief> Rockfish - well technically speaking they're not criminals, but certainly they're under extreme suspicion for committing serious crimes. That alone should be enough reason for bush to fire em. yet, he won't. bad move on his part. the whole "refuse to admit a mistake" rigidity is coming back to bite him bigtime.
<RustyFord> I wonder if her Dummy corporation took kickbacks from Saddam
<gopp> Disbelief answer my questin
<gopp> question damit
<RustyFord> over 2100 companies did business illegally with Saddam
<TheTailor> Disbelief, then why paint them as criminals?
<Rockfish> Technically speaking you slandered them then
<RustyFord> i BET one of them was hers
<hans_kung> That's right: the indictment only mean a person's records and testimony just been examined by a Federal Attorney and a judge and jury have only found evidence that they lied under oath and that a trial should take place. Yah. that's all it means. Nothing serious. He's innocent until they convict him.
<Disbelief> its really reckless to allow them to take his presidency into the tank farther than it already is.
<Rockfish> You're an idiot, Disbelief
<P_O> Nemes, that's orgasmatic.
<MikeyD> cause remember, horrible dicpiction of death, murder and the like are ok, just as long as theres no refrence to *** which is a mutual act of kindness/love/boredom/whatever
<gopp> Disbelief so I can make charges UP , just make Up stuff make it sound serious about **** or condi
<gopp> should bush just fire them for cliams
<Lotec> Poor Bush, the partisan Dems have decided they don't loike him. Did they ever?
<Katey> RustyFord, wait, Plame was working at a CIA dummy corporation? I thought she wasn't involved in any covert work? :)
<gopp> with no proof of a crime
<Lotec> like
<gopp> just hearsay
<Nemes> P_O, isn't it just hehe
<lucifer_> MikeyD: yup; *** is evil you know!
<TheTailor> Rockfish, of course he is, and a cheat, he's not paying off a legit bet :-)
<MikeyD> the republicans are just as partisan as the dems are
<b1ff> the funny thing is, bush isn't even very conservative.
<MikeyD> lets be honest here
<Rockfish> Mikey, actually they're not
<Disbelief> relatively good news, my republican friends. only one of you's been indicted on federal charges today! happy friday!
<P_O> Nemes, if you wrote programs for it, you could do things so fast.
<MikeyD> bush is a social religious zealot and a fiscal socialist
<gopp> Katey it was not covert last year
<gopp> Katey it was 6 years ago
<gopp> Katey thier a statuy of limmiation
<MikeyD> i only wish we could strip him of the republican name
<FreeTrade> back, done printing
<hans_kung> can anyone say Vice President Rice?
<Rockfish> Disbelief, you celebrate your perjury indictment, I'll celebrate the Supreme Court that conservatives will dominate for several decades
<hans_kung> oooopsie
<Nemes> P_O, yeah you could simulate virtually anything really...
<P_O> statuy
<gopp> FreeTrade did you install a firewall on her laptop
<Katey> gopp, ok. What is the statute of limitations for this particular charge?
<FreeTrade> Well I said all along before ANY POLL did that Bushs popularity was dropping on the far rightwing.
<TheTailor> Disbelief, actually that's bad for you liberals who were hoping to bring down an HONEST administration.
<gopp> FreeTrade did she wasite lot of ink
<Lotec> A lot of gleeful people who were so prepared to gloat will prolly be disappointed
<gopp> Katey who knows, it might be 5 years
<b1ff> i dont think hes a social religious zealot at all, socialist is maybe too strong - but favors big government
<MikeyD> politicians are honest?
<MikeyD> thats a new one
<Katey> gopp, Oh, so you're making that up
<Katey> ok
<gopp> I used the operative word
<gopp> may be
<gopp> might be
<gopp> might be 5 years
<FreeTrade> Polls now confirm it
<FreeTrade> Had one more page to print
<MikeyD> That was quite a shock wave rocking the hallowed halls of the U.S. Senate Thursday when a freshman senator from Oklahoma stood on the floor of "the world's greatest deliberative body" and challenged his colleagues to end the charade.
<MikeyD> The charade of endlessly mouthing the cliches of fiscal responsibility, that is, while carrying the shameful practice of log-rolling - "I'll vote for your pet spending project no matter how bad it is if you vote for my pet spending project, no matter how bad it is" to record levels.
<FreeTrade> Gopp, Yeah she has used about $30 worth of ink this school year so far.
<gopp> :(
<MikeyD> you know, other than his views on abortion, i really like this guy
<gopp> why is ink so expensive
<gopp> FreeTrade this is a ink jet printer I ***ume
<MikeyD> hes going to be viciously unpopular now
<b1ff> tom coburn?
<MikeyD> yeah
<hans_kung> gopp to cover the cost of cheap printers I think.
<Disbelief> rockfish - ahahah you do that. Speaking of which. your example highlights just HOW weak George Bush is. He lets his own base (not even senators) *****-slap him around for the Miers nomination, and what does he do? like a battered, submissive, dependent loser, he's now expected to REWARD THEM! HAHAHA
<b1ff> i like his views on abortion, too
<MikeyD> did you hear his stump last week?
<b1ff> coburn is one of the handfull of senators with testicles
<gopp> hans_kung good point
<FreeTrade> There is a group MikeyD if you are aware of it which is seeking to offset the deficit by cutting any programs that they can cut.. ? Are you even aware of this ? Its being led by Republicans in the house.
<MikeyD> yeah, ill give him that
<FreeTrade> And they likely will be some cuts.
<b1ff> i hope coburn doesnt get seduced by washington
<gopp> dam itunes won't even work
<Disbelief> if George Bush were really a strong, independent-minded man, he wouldn't let these hard-right religious crazies dictate his decisions for him and abort his nominees.
<gopp> it just hangs
<Rockfish> Disbelief, he made a poor choice and it was rejected, he will now make a spectacular choice, I'm pretty sure this was the plan all along
<FreeTrade> And I proposed a solution based on the same thing the congress is doing now to get rid of the worst pork barrel spending.
<MikeyD> FT:What Coburn got in response was pure bipartisan outrage. Sen. Patty Murray, the very liberal Washington Democrat, warned that any senator supporting the Coburn amendments would find projects in his or her own state getting the evil eye by annoyed colleagues who don't want to rock the log-rolling boat.
<RustyFord> James Coburn?
<Disbelief> RockFish - rejected by whom? the senate?
<MikeyD> And Alaska's Ted Stevens, the Old Bull Republican moderate who has been one of the biggest obstacles in Congress to conservative reform since the Reagan administration, stood on the floor and thundered that he would leave the Senate if the Coburn proposal p***ed.
<b1ff> Sen Tom Coburn
<hans_kung> Rockfish, nice try. Bush knew he was wasting Meirs' time, his own time, Congress time, just simply to fool everyone.
<RustyFord> the old Cowboy? that Coburn?
<MikeyD> 15 for, 85 against
<b1ff> ted stevens is a ****ing tool
<RustyFord> hans_kung you still ignore the fact that democrats SUGGESTED Miers
<FreeTrade> MikeyD, I am talking about the house, the house does not include the Senate.
<MikeyD> i want to know why rebuilding NO is a federal issue in the first place
<MikeyD> no, but the house controls the purse strings
<hans_kung> Rockfish--you're in serious denial that Bush underestimated the conservative/right base of his own party. And made a bad choice (in THEIR opinion).
<FreeTrade> The point is there will be a spending bill cut it might be across the board it may be targeted it may be both.
<Rockfish> Hans, I'm not so sure about that, I think the Miers rejection will smooth the way for his next nominee, I think it was intentional, but even if it wasn't I don't care, we get good justices either way
<FreeTrade> Its the goddamn system which promotes pork, not the politicians.
<Disbelief> RockFish - you don't get it. this makes Bush look INCREDIBLY WEAK, and pathetic, cuz now he's got to get some sort of undeclared "approval" from a bunch of preachers before he makes a SC nomination.
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