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<khaladan> sym`, you first
<sym`> It's called good timing and political strategy
<DarthBurg> roygbiv several presidents have managed to get lower approval ratings than Bush, did you have a point?
<sym`> Thats all
<Kaliuna> namo -- duh -- he's been elected twice - can't BE elected third time
<Pugsley> m***ive indictments?
<Pugsley> hehe
<sym`> But it's very partisan and very real
<Pugsley> hardly m***ive
<Twobar> Robotsu, er...m***ive indictments ? one person ?
<Swigert> weezyl: I really like this young woman, but shes 13 years younger than I and, even though I'm a grad student, she seems busier than I am
<weezyl> Timur - to my great regret, I haven't. I was going to go on a production trip two years ago, but the second wave of SARS-scare got it postponed until after I left.
<khaladan> sym`, if Fitzgerald had wanted to he could have gotten indictments BEFORE THE NOVEMBER ELECTIONS!
<Robotsu> Twobar: I was quoting sym` and making ajoke
<khaladan> *THAT* would have been political!
<DarthBurg> Twobar!
<Robotsu> *a joke
<Timur> weez: well, it's not going anywhere. :)
<sym`> Pugsley: I call seeking out destruction of DeLay/Cheney/Frist/Rove/Libby
<Twobar> Robotsu ahh heh
<OcDoc> this is not a politically active time to release the indictments ... who says it is?
<sym`> pretty masicve
<weezyl> Swigert - Grad students have somewhat looser schedules, which gives the illusion of free time. ;)
<sym`> m***ive
<Twobar> DarthGargler !!
<Pugsley> well they are trying
<namo_> kaliuna, I doubt you'll see a republican president after bush
<CryArvach> night peeps :)
<OcDoc> the elections aren't for another year
<khaladan> so sym`, why aren't the going after Hastert?
<Timur> when isn't it a politically active time? :)
<CryArvach> namo...hahahaha
<Pugsley> namo: well, hard to say
<Swigert> weezyl: the thing is I don't wnat to do anything else
<Kaliuna> namo -- you better not bet on that...
<weezyl> I don't count it as "free time" if I'm constantly thinking, "****, I need to be reading something else."
<Pugsley> namo: hitlery will be tough to beat tho
<Pugsley> she's got every communist on the planet rooting for her
<khaladan> sym`, why aren't they going after Pres. Bush directly?
<roygbiv> Darth, you're saying everyone's been against Bush. Not true at all. Bush has had a lot of free reign to do whatever he wanted, especially directly after 9/11. And he chose to spend his political capital waging wars and doing whatever else it is he's been doing.
<CryArvach> Pugs..nope...
<weezyl> Swigert - which is why you're exactly where you need to be. :)
<JanetB> oh I think we will see another republican president
<CryArvach> Condy would trash hillary
<sym`> Politics of personal destruction, it's the only way the left can (and might) take back seats in 06
<Swigert> weezyl: you mean it gets worse? *faint*
<khaladan> sym`, why aren't they going after Rumsfeld? why haven't they indicted them yet?
<weezyl> Timur - yeah, thank goodness.
<Pugsley> Condi is not a politician
<weezyl> Swigert - are you TAing yet?
<sym`> khaladan: They tried!
<sym`> With Abu Graib
<OcDoc> roy: "whatever else?" you mean you don't know?
<weezyl> If the answer is "no", then YES, it gets worse. :)
<khaladan> sym`, uhh... and... what prevented them from making it work?
<Twobar> namo, democrats are continiously losing elections, state and fed. No one wants hardcore screaming leftists any more . They never DO anything except raise taxes
<Swigert> weezyl: nah I'm just an MA - TAs are reserved for PhDs
<Robotsu> Condi should go back to Standord ;p
<TomM--> all us libs have to do is sit back and watch the conservs self destruct. Power is something they cant handle.....Delay is off to the slammer followed closely by Dr Frist, you know him the ***hole who suggested the poor woman in Florida wasnt ill, they can join Gingrich, Lott, and now Libby, closely followed by.....ta da.....who knows....if Libby wants to keep bubba out of his *** in the slammer who knows whos next...
<Timur> weez: my fried matt had some great stories, on the place of art in everyday chinese life
<sym`> Democrats have been seeking out ways to drag indictments for republican leaders for the last 2-3 years
<sym`> From Iraq, to Halliburton, to Abu Graib
<weezyl> Swigert - I loved teaching, but it will really eat into your time.
<sym`> To this
<|Glitch|> roygbiv: You're right in that Bush had lots of free reign after 09/11. Congress gave it to him on 09/18/01 and he has been using it every since, exactly as Congress directed.
<roygbiv> Oc, like selling his social security system?
<OcDoc> TomM: yeah, they'll self destruct using the Democrats as a model
<|Glitch|> every = ever
<khaladan> sym`, if that's the case then maybe those Republicans should have been SMARTER so that it WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED, don't you think?
<Twobar> My favorite is the latest "liberal solution": Tax the oil companies because they're making too high profits. AS if this is going to somehow bring prices down.
<Swigert> weezyl: when I get to that level, I will try
<weezyl> Timur - excellent. I ended up with a lot of interesting segments on Chinese art.
<khaladan> sym`, so basically you're mad that Dems went after stupid Reps?
<khaladan> "that's not fair"!
<OcDoc> roy: so you DO know what's been going on
<sym`> khaladan: I can admit what it is =) I mean it is a strategy, I don't know why liberal democrats seem bothered by that insinuation
<roygbiv> Twobar, it would be smarter if they p***ed laws forcing the oil companies to reinvest in infrastructure once they hit a certain profit threshold.
<sym`> I mean, they're winning with it
<JanetB> and HOW many people in clintons employ ended up in jail?
<OcDoc> whatever else .. heh
<gopp> khaladan WHAT DO YOU MEAN STUPIID
<Kaliuna> khaladan -- well ya know what - there have been a lot of things going on -- can't be 60 million places at once
<JanetB> how many Reps are in jail?
<Timur> weez: a story, if I may
<namo_> twobar, well, I think this was a serious blow to the republican party, it is going to have a major effect on how people view the party
<Twobar> roy, something like that, I tend to want to agree.
<OcDoc> roy: rofl
<weezyl> Timur - go for it.
<Swigert> weezyl: but my advisor and his wife, who is also a prof, both asked me today to show movies in their cl***es next week
<gopp> khaladan WHAT LAW where broken
<OcDoc> they p*** laws on the oil companies
<gopp> khaladan WHAT LAW where broken????
<Timur> weez: my friend matt is walking one day in a park..
<khaladan> gopp U R LOL!
<sym`> I mean hell, democrats are putting forth the strategy of politics of personal destruction, and winning somewhat
<gopp> khaladan and how do you wish to slove the problem
<namo_> twobar, even if the democrats don't offer an alternative right now
<OcDoc> roy: let me tell you ... you better hope the oil companies keep making oil for you
<roygbiv> Twobar, usually a free market would see that happen.
<Twobar> namo, perhaps. But the thing is, leftists still offer no solutions to the economy, to terrorism, to about anhything
<sym`> But they don't want to admit it!
<TomM--> Price of a barrel of oil when Clinton left office $10.45.......price today $67.....you work it out....five years later.....with that good night....
<weezyl> Swigert - cool!
<Kaliuna> Doc -- oh they are investigating the OIL companies and gouging -- in front of the house I believe
<gopp> TomM-- what the soloution
<gopp> TomM-- heard of inflation
<JanetB> how many dems in jail????
<DarthBurg> TomM-- we judge presidents by the cost of a barrel of oil?
<khaladan> sym`, well it's funny because in the Plame case, how do you think Fitzgerald got appointed? tell me. please.
<JanetB> how many reps in jail???
<Robotsu> Tom Noe?
<gopp> TomM-- inflation
<Kaliuna> TomM - and just what president controls that?
<sym`> khaladan: Of course not
<Twobar> TomM doesnt need a solution. He has the curvy buttocks of a very young Pamela Anderson
<namo_> janetb, Trafficant is in jail
<Timur> weez: and he sees this old chinese man, with a bamboo stick with something tied onto it. He realizes the cane is filled with water, the thing tied to it is a sponge, the old man is taking his morning constitutional and and various points during the walk using the water-pen to make chinese characters in the dirt
<Macer> hello... i know this is an oddball question.. but there was a movie about the nazis who decided on teh final solution that was an hbo mftv movie.. does anybody know what the name of the movie is?
<gopp> jh how many democarts in jail compared to republicans
<OcDoc> TomM: so the Dems kept oil artificially low?
<sym`> But it doesn't mean he doesn'
<Macer> i thought itwas final solution.. but i don't think so
<sym`> sway one way or the other
<khaladan> sym`, it was the *CIA* who requested an independent investigation!
<gopp> TomM-- how did dem keep oil low?
<gopp> TomM-- how???
<khaladan> sym`, it was the Justice Dept. who set it up!
<khaladan> oy.
<sym`> khaladan: Of course, covering their own ***
<|Glitch|> TomM--: That's bound to happen when you don't build any new refineries in 30 years. Supply just can't keep up with the growing demand.
<roygbiv> In a free market, when the returns on a commodity hit a peak, it causes a flood of new investment to capitalise on that peak (this is the way mining has always worked), which quickly causes the price of the commodity to fall again. In oil, because there are so few companies and they collude, the incentive to invest in more infrastructure is lacking.
<Robotsu> well the CIA are clearly leftist jerks
<JanetB> why.. when she was not covert and they know she was not covert
<Robotsu> god damn hippies
<namo_> khaladan, it would be funny if it turns out that the CIA chief 'outed' the agent
<khaladan> sym`, and what do thye have to cover for...?
<sym`> The CIA doesn't want to look silly after already looking silly to begin with
<khaladan> namo_ it would be funny
<OcDoc> Macer: look it up on IMDB
<weezyl> Timur - Heh!
<Kaliuna> TomM - and of course you forgot the world and OIL -- ya know China and India now in market for oil... supply/demand
<Timur> weez: he has a bunch of stories like that, even better
<Twobar> Bush is a stinking hippie and Clinton wears a burqua
<JanetB> not even close to the laws.. could she be considered covert!
<gopp> TomM-- Solio
<Robotsu> Twobar: hehe
<gopp> TomM-- A main reason gas prices are so high is the fact that no one in America has built a new refinery in decades. All the enviromental regulations make it so expensive to start one of them that a new refinery can't make any profit no matter how high gas prices go. Unless some laws are changed gas prices will never go below $2 again
<OcDoc> roy: so few companies? we've got hundreds!
<namo_> twobar, huh?
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