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<RustyFord> heh
<Plumm> not that.. the iraqis can read or understsand democracy
<ajofi> the American electorate should be embarr***ed, the system is working as designed
<RustyFord> Bush didn't lie before a grand jury
<TomM--> Pickle I made the same point this afternoon. Repubs sound like dems did in 2000 and dems sound like Repubs. Same issue, same bather, diff folks...:)
<ajofi> that's not embarr***ing for democracy itself
<RustyFord> Clinton did
<RustyFord> BIG difference
<tweek> it's kinda funny seeing RF on the defensive, kinda, to a bunch of trolls
<Plumm> politcian and lying..is like chinese and rice
<RustyFord> troll?
<RustyFord> uhmm dude you mean telling the truth
<tweek> well, mebbe RF can be considered a permanent troll.
<Plumm> i remember the first speech that got Bush into office or his first debate
<RustyFord> Bush hasn't testified before a grand jury
<RustyFord> Clinton has
<RustyFord> Clinton Lied
<RustyFord> end of story
<Plumm> you can ask for a tape of Bush's first debate
<Plumm> how he plans to bring "civility" to washington
<Plumm> he was attacking clinton left n right
<RustyFord> again show me a time when Bush was before a GRAND Jury?
<RustyFord> NONE!
<RustyFord> unlike CLINTON
<ajofi> not yet anyway
<RustyFord> hahaha
<RustyFord> not yet!
<RustyFord> thats the key words
<tweek> he's on the goddamned defensive.
<Plumm> it's a crime to get a blowjob.. but it's not a crime to send men with futurs to die in a foreign land
<RustyFord> when he goes before a grand jury then you can say anything you want about "RustyFord"
<RustyFord> until then
<Timur> yeah
<Timur> let's focus now on Clinton. :)
<RustyFord> don't be so "judgemental" about what I think if you want to seriously talk issues with me
<TheTailor> Plumm, who said it was a crime to get a blow job?
<tweek> you talking to me?
<ajofi> rusty: well isn't it possible that the Bush administration learned from the Clinton administration mistakes?
<Timur> lying abput *** isnt a big deal
<Plumm> it's a crime to get an erection in the oval office but it's not a crime to mobilise billioins of taxes payer money and troops to some desert
<Timur> about.
<ajofi> i.e. insulate the president better?
<TheTailor> Plumm, in case you've forgotten, it was perjury.
<TomM--> LOL...blow jobs always wake up Tailor!!!
<Timur> the case was without merit in the first place
<qpl> thetailor, anyone who lacks any moral integrity, which is anyone in politics pretty much
<ajofi> and don't let him before a grand jury let alone under oath?
<Timur> so the perjury charge was therefore also
<Plumm> it's a crime to **** a fat girl in the oval office..but lying to the world about wmd is not a crime
<RustyFord> if you are reasonable i don't care if you disagree i will talk with you and we will disagree, in cases of strong disagreement i will put you on ignore like any good politician would
<Plumm> i should say fat and ugly girl
<qpl> not a moral fiber are consciencous person left in all of american politics
<Plumm> haha
<tweek> you talking to me, RF?
<ajofi> well actually the *** wasn't the crime
<qpl> besides, with the foundations destroyed, what can the rightous do
<qpl> ?
<TomM--> Rusty argues with himself! He may as well no one else pays attention to his juvenile drivel.
<qpl> no one who is truely rightous would even involve themselves with the political sphere these days
<Plumm> i'm browsing the deads in iraq on Nytimes now..
<Plumm> these guys are young
<tweek> and at any rate, if a politician is way out of line with the people s/he is supposedly representing, the politician will probably be voted out.
<RustyFord> at any rate
<Plumm> california seems to have the most
<RustyFord> haha typical
<RustyFord> what about 15 anda half %?
<ajofi> tweek: that requires a lot of faith
<qpl> nah, politicians are masters of deception
<ajofi> people have to know where the politician stands and they have to care
<ajofi> most don't know and don't care
<RustyFord> I stand with Spiderman
<tweek> ajofi: I was responding to the troll's comment that 'any good politician' would ignore anyone that is strongly against what the politician is doing.
<ajofi> gotcha
<RustyFord> Spiderman is cool
<Plumm> i like the Hulk
<ajofi> oh yeah
<Plumm> he represent america
<TV_> Spiderman II is cooler!
<Plumm> hulk angry, hulk smash
<ajofi> spiderman is very cool
<qpl> hey look its tweek, the new addition to the decroded political sphere
<TV_> Howdy folks.
<RustyFord> Hulk is Spidermans backup
<Plumm> hulk turn green
<RustyFord> I m,ean think about it
<RustyFord> when spiderman is fubar
<qpl> hes really trying to be one of you guys the best he can
<RustyFord> who would you want as your best friend?
<RustyFord> I know who I would want
<hans_kung> Very cool Rosa Parks to lay in state at the Capitol.
<RustyFord> =))
<qpl> hell log thousands and thousands of useless garbage here right along with the rest of you
<tweek> qpl: I'm remembering the nick 'qpl' as someone who spouts a lotta bull****.
<RustyFord> hanskung i don't know if i agree with that
<TomM--> I still think its sad that a career politician with the credentials of Libby is destroyed because of an incredibly stupid act. I still cant figure out how he thought he would get away with it.
<gopp> RustyFord have you seen every one hate chris
<qpl> yeh tweek, thats a view typical of the the self authoratative self rightous view of right wingers
<ajofi> Well at this point I seriously doubt Bush's numbers could get any lower so I think that prospects are still 50/50 at worst at this date for Republicans in 2006.
<RustyFord> hanskung what are they going to do play Martin Luther king speeches while she lays there?
<hans_kung> Rusty: is that bad if they did?
<RustyFord> just bury her ***
<RustyFord> yes i think thats bad
<tweek> no, that's typical of me, when someone says a lotta bull****, to think.
<RustyFord> just be black
<RustyFord> we are white
<RustyFord> you are black
<Abydos313> the big question is why did he do it? what was his gain
<qpl> thats why only right wingers are here
<RustyFord> be what you are!
<RustyFord> it doesn't matter your ****ing color
<RustyFord> are you american?
<hans_kung> uh huh.
<RustyFord> hmm?
<RustyFord> are you america?
<TomM--> Abydos313 that is the 64k question!
<ajofi> But the real test for 2006 will be the next Supreme Court nomination by Bush.
<qpl> but dont worry tweek, your need to fit in here will be welcomed because you too can log thousands and thousands of lines of useless text here with the rest of them!
<Timur> it'd be nice if it really worked that way
<Abydos313> yep
<RustyFord> you got a problem wiht saying "Yes i am AMERICAN!"
<Timur> for the majority
<ajofi> Either way there is a good chance it will split the party.
<Timur> but it doesn't
<RustyFord> I love it!
<Timur> for most
<RustyFord> I LOVE America
<tweek> I think I remember your dumb *** trolling around a while back, claiming that no one here had anything better to do, including yourself.
<tweek> and, err, here you are again.
<qpl> pretty much
<ajofi> tweek: Hell I've said that before...
<RustyFord> this is the only country where i can go anywhere to seek information about anything i want
<Timur> me too, but I also don't mistake loving it for ***uming it's without significant problems
<qpl> im killing time while a HD tests
<Plumm> what's a good foreign language to learn these days
<[vlad]> RustyFord: eh? how about the uk?
<ajofi> plumm: Chinese
<tweek> there are a lotta Efnet channels
<Kardos> Esperanto
<[vlad]> RustyFord: and FRANCE
<tweek> you could troll any one of 'em
<Timur> ajofi: I was just gonna say that
<qpl> and than ill be off, because i have better things to do than log thousands of lines of useless bull**** with the rest of these clowns
<ajofi> learn mandarin, quickly
<TimothyW> Plumm : Chinese and Indian Langauges
<Plumm> yes
<qpl> especially rustyford, he holds the record
<ajofi> Hindi or Urdu?
<qpl> !
<qpl> selah
<Plumm> indian...they don't eat beef


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