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<|Glitch|> Timur: Yep, anyone who asks for our help to eradicate terrorist scum should get as much as we can afford to give.
<Twobar> stupid *** names
<Macer> as well as rich family members who migrated
<namo_> Kaliuna, I'm trying to say learn from history
<Robotsu> terrorism can never be defeated :p
<namo_> simple concept that's getting lost here
<Macer> what do the 300K in africa have?
<SweetLeaf> how about Bub Ba
<Kaliuna> namo - you cannot compare apples to oranges
<Twobar> If you are a grown man and your still called "Bobby", you ****.
<Macer> other than a hand held out asking for money and free food?
<Timur> Glitch: agree, and the EU is getting on board with a more comprehensive strategy to deal with their considerable terrorist element as well
<Kaliuna> namo - nor can you compare one war to another in that mannerism
<Timur> Robotsu: it can be minimized
<sym`> namo_: Iraq is making steps in the right direction in government. Women have more rights and more freedom to express themselves. Their athletes are able to be a part of Iraqi sports without being scared of Saddam's son. Schools are being rebuilt and staffed. Iraqi's are stepping up to the plate to replace those who unfortunatly die by insurgent hands in Iraq
<namo_> Kaliuna, so you are saying that when someone used to say "We don't want another Vietnam" that whole concept was flawed since we can't compare wars with each other?
<Macer> iraq is like israel if you ask me
<Kaliuna> namo - and they have a gov't
<Macer> they will have stron us ties and everybody around them will hate them
<Timur> Iraq isn't like Israel.
<soilrunn> heh, the tales about saddam's son torchering soccer players was found to be completely ***anine
<Macer> even the saudis
<Espectro> Bobby Hebert was pretty good
<Kaliuna> namo -- its flawed logic
<Macer> Timur, in a way it is
<soilrunn> it turns out the "dead" player in question was lynched by a mob of angry iraqis
<namo_> sym, christians are getting slaughtered in Iraq, good going
<sym`> ?
<Timur> unless you mean 'there are groups in both countries that hate each other'
<sym`> namo_: Explain ..
<|Glitch|> Timur: However, we can't begin to win this war while we leave two terrorist sponsoring nations unscathed. The current governments of both Iran and Syria must be taken out, the sooner the better.
<^rcane> Macer: iraq is like israel? really?
<Robscure> what no shredders of m*** mutilation ?
<namo_> sym, did you miss the bombings of churches in Iraq?
<Timur> but then Bosnia is like Israel, Rwanda is like Israel, Azerbaijan is like Israel..
<Macer> Timur, they will be surrounded by countries that hate the us
<Macer> other than kuwait
<Timur> in which case, it's not that useful of a comparison
<Macer> kuwaitis are very nic epeople :)
<Rebec> timur everything goes back to Israel?
<sym`> namo_: Insurgents really don't care who they kill
<Timur> Macer: 'will be'?
<Oax> hey does anyone ahve a good definition for "terrorist"? because that would make this whole converstaion make a lot more sense
<namo_> sym, did you know that christians are afraid to open their liquor stores?
<Kaliuna> Macer - yes they are for most part
<^rcane> Macer: jordan hates the us?
<cM0ss> Kaliuna: why try to explain to namo_? He doesn't seem to have the faculties to understand.
<Macer> Timur, well.. other than before
<Timur> seems that Syria and Iran already do, but Jordan's a bit more comple
<Timur> x
<sym`> namo_: Why are you focusing on Christians anyways?
<Macer> ^rcane, yes
<Robotsu> who is DCC'ing me "Vivid_***_Trial.rar" and is it related to Libbey's testimoney?
<sym`> It's a muslim nation
<namo_> sym, muslims hate alcohol
<Macer> :)
<Robscure> Oax, I know they are either with us or against us...
<IamKing> Macer: oh puhleeze...every ****ing Kuwaiti that ends up on IRC using qualitynet.net ends up being some type of idiot or flat-out troll :P
<^rcane> Macer: since when?
<Macer> jordan hates the us
<fafu> Soon Iraqi women will be fully liberated. They will all become lawyers and stop having babies. The Iraqi population will begin to shrink, and Iraq will have to begin importing Mexicans. This is the Neocon plan.
<namo_> sym, you focused on women, I'm focusing on christians
<Macer> saudi arabia hatresa the us
<Timur> Macer: the king doesn't
<Rebec> Macer Jordan does not HATE the US
<Timur> and most of the leadership doesn't
<Macer> heh
<sym`> namo_: I'm not quite sure why you are talking about Christians in Iraq which is a muslim country
<Macer> they do
<Rebec> Macer no heh I know the king
<Kaliuna> namo - why not talk about the country itself
<Rebec> He's a friend of mine and he was educated in the states
<sym`> Or what that has to do with the war in Iraq
<namo_> sym, because iraq DOES have a christian minority
<Macer> really? did you meet him when visiting china?
<^rcane> hey rebec
<sym`> namo_: OK, and your point is what?
<Macer> like the king and i?
<Timur> that's why those terrorists were put in jail, and not freed and given tickertape parades like they are in, say, the Palestinian territories or Syria or Lebanon
<Espectro> it's par the wes exercising restraint vs some mideasterners trying to win at all cost
<Robotsu> sure, an ever shrinking minority in arab countries
<Rebec> Macer no I met him while he was in the US I have never been to China
<namo_> sym, things are necessarily better
<Rebec> hi rcane
<namo_> people are afraid to leave their homes
<^rcane> Macer: maybe you mean the people who call themselves palestinians
<^rcane> Macer: those people hate everybody
<Robotsu> *philistines
<sym`> namo_: You've been watching too much media
<sym`> namo_: Things *are* getting better, and there *are* positives
<sym`> You just don't want to see them
<Kaliuna> namo -- you gotta quit watching all the negative media hype
<namo_> sym, you saw how everyone was afraid to travel around 911 right? Imagine that being a constant occurance every day
<Timur> Rebec: in what context did you meet the king?
<sym`> namo_: Plenty of people traveling
<Robotsu> but how many other terrorist attacks have we had?
<^rcane> actually robotsu... philistines actually have roots in the area
<namo_> sym, no, I've been talking to people who live through it
<^rcane> palestinians do not
<sym`> namo_: You're bouncing around a lot
<Kaliuna> namo -- people were still traveling
<Robotsu> imo it's an irrational fear because it's not like we can change anything about it anyway
<sym`> namo_: You need to stay focused on one issue
<Robotsu> ^rcane: ah, I did now know that :)
<Timur> that's wrong
<namo_> kaliuna, the roads were empty even in california around 911
<Timur> we can change a lot of things
<Timur> we are already changing some
<Robotsu> Timur: I mean the public at large
<Timur> and will change more in the future
<Kaliuna> namo -- for a short time -- maybe
<^rcane> philistines were greek
<|Glitch|> Timur: Palestine and Lebanon are symptoms, the core problem is Syria and Iran who trains, funds, and supplies those terrorists. Take out the terrorist sponsoring nations, and the terrorist organizations will begin to fall like dominos.
<^rcane> not arab
<Twobar> Nearly 1.5 million babies, a record, were born to unmarried women in the United States last year, the government reported Friday.
<strapped> im rickjames
<Robotsu> Timur: and I agree with you're earlier statement that we can supress/limit terrorism
<Twobar> isnt that great ! 1.5 million
<namo_> kaliuna, right, well, in iraq they have a bombing every day and you're saying things are better?
<Timur> Robot: good, because it's self-evident. ;)
<Robotsu> indeed :)
<icmps> Robotsu: Yeah, by limiting/suppressing our foreign intervention
<cM0ss> namo_: go buy a fallout shelter and move in and lock the door. You'll be somewhat safe then, if there isn't an earthquake.
<Robotsu> possibly
<Kaliuna> namo -- who has been bombing -- insurgeants and where have they been bombing -- people are still out and about -
<Robotsu> or at least not being such douchebags about it
<Kaliuna> namo -- I have many young men - friends of my children who are there -- I hear from them quite regularly
<Twobar> ROFLL..........
<^rcane> how many are yours twobar?
<namo_> kaliuna, maybe you should live there and send us a postcard on how great it is :P
<Twobar> Washington - Former District of Columbia Mayor Marion Barry was charged Friday with failure to file his income tax returns a misdemeanor charge that could bring a year-and-a-half in prison if he is convicted.
<Timur> depends where
<^rcane> twobar knocked up 100 women last year, he was busy
<namo_> kaliuna, residents or soldiers?
<Kaliuna> namo - why arent you there?
<Timur> I think the Kurdish area would probably be decent
<^rcane> he had to ghb them
<sym`> namo_: As I said, things are better. There are positives, but you don't want to see them (for whatever reason). I have my suspisions you don't want to see them because of the person who acted to *get* those positives
<Kaliuna> namo -- both actually
<namo_> kaliuna, cause I know it ****s
<Twobar> Barry is a continuing good laugh. He is the all time mayor of DC. He shows it's real face.
<Twobar> corrupted
<|Glitch|> Timur: Palestinians in particular are merely pawns in a proxy war Iran and Syria have been fighting against Israel since 1948.
<icmps> Twobar: Funny, but an illustration of the absurdity of our government.
<JanetB> why do you have to live there, or be in the service... to have an opinion
<Kaliuna> namo -- so does life at times --
<sym`> Had it been a different person in office, I believe you would be singing a different toon
<JanetB> when all you have to do is read what the people say
<^rcane> lol palestinians
<^rcane> they arn't even a group
<namo_> kaliuna, right, that's why we get to drink alcohol but you can't even do that in iraq without a muslim blowing you up


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