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<Emil^> to say 'ohh i hate xxx' but 'i wont say why' that's cowardly
<shalom> very nice, ocdoc
<mojo_jojo> it's my left wrist that hurts on my fretting hand
<mojo_jojo> and it's only after I am done practicing
<mojo_jojo> not while I am doing it
<Emil^> if you want to talk ****...talk it! why hold back?
<nharris> In Vietnam now, saying you're american gets you that much better treatment.. first hand experience!
<OcDoc> nharris: so they don't spit in your fried dog?
<squidink> mojo_jojo: AHH. ok. try taking stretch breaks every 45 minutes or so as well. its just like any repetitive stress injury, change your posistion a bit, and find whats most comfortable.
<deidara> they just want ur money
<deidara> they really dont like you hehe
<deidara> true fact
<shalom> I like to say I'm french when I visit the lovely vietnamese countryside. Ho chi min city is breathtaking
<mojo_jojo> I keep jacking around with this and I am going to get some kind of permanent tendonitis or something
<nharris> nay.. they even introduce their daughters to you!
<mojo_jojo> and that ain't good
<Espectro> chill out and watch 'Cinderella Man:
<Emil^> vietnam is th e safest country in SE asia today........and yes if need to sick on teh main path if you visit there - i know
<deidara> lol
<OcDoc> shalom: yeah, it would take MY breath away
<squidink> mojo_jojo: i thought you meant your right hand, if its the left, the best things you can do are finger exercises, and take plent of breaks. or other wise yes, you will end up with carpal tunnel and probably wont be able to play as well, if at all.
<Lotec> shalom, I could believe you're a Frog
<deidara> respectable viet ppl will not do that hehe
<Espectro> but that's not always an op[tion
<shalom> hell yeah, I love france
<mojo_jojo> oy
<mojo_jojo> it's hard to *not practice* you know
<mojo_jojo> ?
<mojo_jojo> you really get in to it
<mojo_jojo> or at least i do
<squidink> mojo_jojo: yeah, of course.
<Emil^> shalom - you're just a coward - you, patently dishonest - if i'm in europe: i'm canadian, if i'm in vietnam: i'm french --- you're 1 thing only you're a ***** *** lier who sell his grandmother
<|bob> Emil^: mines over there, mines over there, and watch out those goddamn monkeys will bite ya
<OcDoc> mojo: also, don't forget your hearing protection
<mojo_jojo> it's not getting any worse it's just been going on for a couple of weeks
<Emil^> shalom - if you were my daughter i'd disown you
<mojo_jojo> OcDoc what hearing protection
<squidink> mojo_jojo: point is though, only play for 30-40 minutes at a time, take a 5 min break, stretch your fingers, move your wrist around, and then go back to it, it will feel a lot better at the end of the day.
<mojo_jojo> I just use these sony mdr-7506 headphones to practice through
<Espectro> i been real lucky about greaks
<nharris> I thought shalom was a guy
<OcDoc> nharris: what difference does it make?
<Espectro> only a few so far
<Lotec> Doc, don't guitarists get carpal tunnel syndrome?
<mojo_jojo> squidink that sounds like a plan
<Emil^> shalom - you would sell you own mother i bet
<squidink> mojo_jojo: also, you may want to get a finger/hand exerciser, not only will you have stronger hands, but you can play longer, and typically it improves play as well.
<mojo_jojo> yeah I have one of those gizmos
<shalom> emil. not so much
<mojo_jojo> I got it for free from zzounds
<mojo_jojo> it looks silly
<nharris> it's just more understandable for women to be flaming liberals is all
<Espectro> but it's not like i play pro sports or something
<shalom> furthermore, I am male
<mojo_jojo> you're talking about a gripmaster?
<OcDoc> Lotec: sure
<squidink> mojo_jojo: yep
<mojo_jojo> I got one of those things sitting here I got it for free
<mojo_jojo> it looks goofy
<mojo_jojo> what do you do with it?
<Emil^> shalom - you lie like it's 2nd nature......
<Emil^> and you admit it
<squidink> mojo_jojo: take my advice, ive spent more time around guitars and bands then with just about anything else, at least in my younger days.
<shalom> do I?
<Lotec> Doc, I read they think CTS is related to diabetes
<squidink> mojo_jojo: you use it, heh, read the instructions.
<OcDoc> Emil: only if she were a conservative
<squidink> Lotec: it can be.
<mojo_jojo> oh rats I chucked them
<Emil^> shalom - you have twice now dumb*** - do you have alheizmers too?
<shalom> yeah, and amnesia
<squidink> Lotec: like most problems with health, a lot of it is genetic.
<mojo_jojo> It was in this box from zzounds.com I ordered a bunch of picks and strings and there was this gripmaster sitting in the box for free
<mojo_jojo> I was like ok whatever
<OcDoc> Lotec: anything that causes the nerves to be more sensitive to pressure, and anything that causes the tunnel to swell can cause CTS
<mojo_jojo> I chucked the instructions though
<Espectro> those flesh colored wraps help for tendons
<OcDoc> diabetes and thyroid disease are related
<Emil^> shalom - try telling foreigners next time you're from atlantis
<nharris> wrist condoms
<squidink> mojo_jojo: you use it to stretch your fingers, and such, play with it a bit, you'll figure it out.
<shalom> lol
<Emil^> shalom - hell as you as you belive it
<mojo_jojo> squidink I just do rhythm guitar though
<mojo_jojo> I don't do that crazy single string solo stuff
<OcDoc> shalom is a troll and you're all just feeding it
<squidink> mojo_jojo: if you're having wrist problems, stronger hands will help.
<Emil^> ocdoc - you're right..........
<mojo_jojo> so you're saying use that for a few minutes before you start practicing?
<mojo_jojo> is that what you're saying?
<shalom> no I'm just a pissed off liberal
<Lotec> shalom that's redundant
<squidink> mojo_jojo: no, use it like, ok, if you practice on monday and wednesday, use it on tuesdays.
<mojo_jojo> normally I just walk in here pick it up and start practicing boom
<OcDoc> shalom: no pissed off liberals talk like you do
<mojo_jojo> maybe that has something to do with it
<Abydos313> Lotec excactly what i was thinking
<nharris> If the Iraq war did any good, it sure rooted out the fact that we have liberals in this nation.
<squidink> mojo_jojo: get what i mean? its like any other kind of exercise.
<mojo_jojo> yeah but I don't think this is a muscle problem
<Espectro> the wrap thing keep it on
<Emil^> afk
<squidink> mojo_jojo: use it every other day, while you read a book, or listen to music or something.
<mojo_jojo> I think I am putting some kind of stress on tendon(s)
<mojo_jojo> I think I have some kind of tendonitis in my wrist
<OcDoc> nharris: ineffective liberals ... at least the antivietnam crowd was successful
<nharris> heheh true
<Abydos313> i blame the school system for all the liberals we have. we need to fix that
<squidink> mojo_jojo: in that case, go check with a doctor, and he will probably suggest a brace or pressure wrap of some kind.
<mojo_jojo> I am just wearing my hand out I think
<mojo_jojo> and that ain't good
<OcDoc> nharris: now they're in charge and they STILL can't prevent Bush from fighting wars
<shalom> I went to a fantastic public school
<mojo_jojo> ooh I would but no job no money
<nharris> the antivietnam crowd didn't come back with the other side of a sword saying "you idiots..you didn't finish what you started in Vietnam!" like they will if we pull out of Iraq
<mojo_jojo> this guitar playing doesn't pay much (yet) ha ha
<squidink> mojo_jojo: then you're ****ed. heh.
<OcDoc> shalom: now that we know you're a troll we don't have to believe anything you say
<OcDoc> nya nya
<mojo_jojo> yup
<shalom> you can believe whatever you want to.
<OcDoc> that's true
<squidink> mojo_jojo: common aspirin will help reduce swelling in tendons and such.
<mojo_jojo> yeah I figured that out a couple of weeks ago
<mojo_jojo> you know that aspirin stuff really works!
<mojo_jojo> freaky
<squidink> yeah, aspirin is kind of funny like that, its useful for a lot of things...
<mojo_jojo> don't they get that stuff from the bark of a tree?
<shalom> use meat tenderizer for insect stings
<OcDoc> put it in a coke and it gets you high
<squidink> yeah, pretty much.
<mojo_jojo> acetylsalicilic acid or whatever
<mojo_jojo> funky
<shalom> it's acetominiphine
<mojo_jojo> aspirin ain't
<nharris> Martha Stewart says Pine Tar Soap will get cumstains out of upholstery
<mojo_jojo> this is what I don't get
<mojo_jojo> how come my wrist doesn't hurt *while I am practicing*
<mojo_jojo> ?
<mojo_jojo> it only hurts *when I am done*
<OcDoc> mojo: same reason a sunburn doesn't hurt while your in the sun
<nharris> it's 1am all over again!
<Espectro> got me there
<mojo_jojo> oh great
<OcDoc> heh ... missed it
<shalom> ocdoc: are you a doctor?
<OcDoc> shalom: yes
<shalom> hot...what kind
<mojo_jojo> this blows I can't see a doctor
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