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<bbabich> where is DM east instance
<DirtyPira> is this a World Of Warcraft channel ?
<DeeWoo> yes
<DirtyPira> ok, is there a warcraft III channel out there ?
<DirtyPira> with lots of users
<DeeWoo> dunno
<bbabich> anyone getting MAJOR lag in MARA?
<gh0zt> man i can't believe my game card ****ing expired
<gh0zt> i don't know if i should go get another card or just plug in a cc
<h8> bbabich im getting major lag in rag
<h8> world server just went down
<h8> and MC is lagging to ****
<bbabich> there are about 90 Hunters in this instance, all chinese farmers I imagine and they're making it ****
<Toadyus> is there any tool that will tell me what the cdkey is that I used for WOW?
<cdrz> registry i'm sure.
<voodoo\> There is no cdkey for WoW.
<cdrz> good point lol
<A-KO> nerf shamans!
<Polmen> nerf druids :P
<A-KO> nerf warlocks
<A-KO> actually I think I'll make a hunter as my next cl***
<A-KO> after I finish leveling my lock to 60
<Polmen> hunters are evil against me:P
<Polmen> im a mage^^
<Polmen> slow me down with bow, send pet, crit me for 2k -> die
<cyberfr0g> <voodoo\> There is no cdkey for WoW.
<cyberfr0g> yes there is
<cyril> the cdkey aint stored on computer anyway
<Polmen> WoW as shareware would be cool for the developers
<cyril> its linked to your account
<cyberfr0g> who wants a guest p*** key
<cyberfr0g> it'll only be $10 billion
<xshadowx> i want it
<xshadowx> gimme
<cyberfr0g> i accept paypal
<bbabich> if I lost my cd's for the game but still have an account, can I install someone elses cd's on a new computer and use my account?
<Atom_Bomb> yes
<Atom_Bomb> the install doesnt require any key
<neoimp> as long as you have an account
<cyberfr0g> how many points for agil per crit rate? 10?
<Annex> hrm I thought it was 20..
<Annex> could have changed
<cyberfr0g> so an item with 1% to crit rate would equal an item with +20 agil or +10 depending on which one it is
<A-KO> ahh
<A-KO> I love messing with the realm's chinese farmers
<cyberfr0g> tell them to lick your craby patty
<cyril> no
<cyril> err
<cyril> cyberfr0g
<cyril> agi gives dodge and armor aswell
<cyril> (and attackpower?)
<decius-> str is atk power
<cyril> for rogue aint 1 agi 1 attackpower?
<cyberfr0g> i'm talking about the direct conversion of 1% crit rate to stats
<cyril> depends if you are warrior or rogue / huntard
<cyril> 24agi is one crit for rogue and hunter
<nih> It's 54 for hunter
<neoimp> 24agi really?
<neoimp> then rogues have like over 300agi at lvl60
<snuggl> neoimp: i got almost 400 agi
<snuggl> noo, but over 300 atleast
<neoimp> whoa
<neoimp> a rogue and a paladin were teaming up in BB
<neoimp> the paladin would draw the goblin aggro then the rogue would kill all horde :P
<gh0zt> I heard the new 1.9 patch will let you transfer between pve and pvp
<cyberfr0g> cyril: so a glove that is 1% crit +5stam is far superiour to 10agil 5stam
<neoimp> for offense sure
<neoimp> agi also gives you AC, parry, deflect, and block
<neoimp> dodge too i think
<rmccsox> pls dont ban me for asking this. im not much of a gamer and trying to figure this out.. why is WoW better than GW?
<neoimp> lol
<neoimp> the content
<rmccsox> neoimp, explain more pls
<nih> That depends on the player
<neoimp> guild wars can't compare because its free to play online so the developers don't have an obligation to keep its users happy
<rmccsox> nih, what you means?
<rmccsox> mean
<jexx0r> it's so much more complex and detailed and well balanced
<rmccsox> neoimp, from what ive read they are going to make money on expansion packs
<nih> WoW is about as complexe as opening a door
<neoimp> TONS of quests to do from lvl1-60
<jexx0r> wow keeps getting more content (updates) with new areas to play
<rmccsox> cool
<jexx0r> new battlegrounds, quests, items
<rmccsox> im on a laptop.. 1.6 ghz. 512 ram. 128 vram. is that enough for wow?
<jexx0r> it'll run
<jexx0r> get a real mouse tho
<neoimp> other mmorpgs you have to kill like 1000 of the same create to lvl up and hope they drop good stuff
<rmccsox> im not into seeing every friggin leaf. i just wanna play
<neoimp> creature8
<neoimp> creature*
<rmccsox> i want the game that is more fun
<jexx0r> it'll run. you can lose some fancy graphic effects
<rmccsox> i can live w/ that. i have a 10 day trial account now.. i played GW this weekend.. i like it but the one thing that stuck out was when on quests, you are seperated from the world.
<neoimp> it basically comes down to how much you want to play this game
<neoimp> you need to invest a lot of time into WoW
<rmccsox> other than that, i think gw is a pretty good game..
<rmccsox> oh
<rmccsox> i'll invest if i like. :)
<neoimp> GW isn't a persisten world
<neoimp> GW is like diablo 2
<neoimp> persistent*
<rmccsox> GW seems to be more of .. go on a quest.. come back and get another one, etc.. where as (from what i've read) wow seems to be more "complete"
<neoimp> WoW is the same except you aren't seperated from others while you quests
<rmccsox> neoimp, thats a part of GW i didnt like.. i was waiting for some dudes to come across me and trade me a weapon i needed
<rmccsox> ya know?
<rmccsox> ok.. im gonna start my 10 day trial..
<neoimp> wow until diablo3 is released :P
<Godskalk> is diablo 3 coming?
<Godskalk> :P
<cyberfr0g> lame :)
<neoimp> eventually
<neoimp> you know they'll make it, if they need a ton of sales at once
<neoimp> but WoW is making them too much money than they can deal with
<cyberfr0g> where's starcraft 2
<neoimp> starcraft ghost
<neoimp> which is going to be for next gen consoles
<cyberfr0g> um
<cyberfr0g> that's not starcraft 2
<cyberfr0g> i want starcraft 2
<cyberfr0g> heh
<cyberfr0g> no one cares about consoles
<_talon_> hmmm new graveyard at raven hill doesnt work?
<dhartmei> do paladins really have no abilities to tank (i.e. hold aggro of multiple mobs), and if so, why do they think they make decent tanks?
<cyberfr0g> because they're dumb
<dhartmei> looks that way
<cibo> how much do the sword specialisation proc
<cibo> on 5%
<A-KO> dhartmei : Blizzard's character information on their page pretty much tries to overall cover everything that the cl*** can do with its abilities. They never made a claim that the player would be tanking raid zones
<A-KO> lol
<A-KO> their ***umption was that only the "hardcore of the hardcore" would see raid content
<A-KO> of course, the quick leveling system pretty much killed that
<dhartmei> i'm talking level 35 gnomeregan :)
<A-KO> you could tank gnomeregan but you don't have aggro pulling abilities
<A-KO> lol
<dhartmei> the definition of tank basically means gaining and keeping aggro, no?
<KriLLy> yes
<cibo> and surviving it
<KriLLy> And being able to handle it.
<KriLLy> Yes, survive it.
<dhartmei> there's 10 mob groups. they aggro one, keep hitting it, priest heals them the first time, 9 mobs go for the priest, they keep hitting their initial target.
<A-KO> lol....in low instances you could have a priest tank
<A-KO> dhartmei : if it's a 10 mob pull just have a mage go in and have his way with everything
<A-KO> either that
<A-KO> or you pulled wrong
<Savage^> I just watched a vid where a priest tanked onyxia for the entire duration of phase 1 :P
<KriLLy> No, you really couldn't.
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