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<Spax> Slam FTW!!!
<djben> that was the problem
<ajnewbold> can warlocks turn soulshards into health somehow?
<AMAG> I shouldn't have to go, "well I need to spend 5 more points in frost to get the talent I want but I don't really care for any of these talents available to me .. which one is less ****?"
<KhaoZ> blizzs answer to the broken mage, and they really said this, is to give the more mana
<dedekind> they can make healthstones
<ajnewbold> dedekind: ahhh
<AMAG> Buff the reduced frostbolt cast time talent
<ajnewbold> dedekind: there a specific spell for that?
<blinkn> >.>
<AMAG> Or buff the mana expenditure reduction in frost
<Spax> If you say mages are underpowered.. you are soo wrong mr!
<blinkn> PWNT
<KhaoZ> they say, that giving a mage more mana lets them do more damage, and it's equal to the increase in damage that the other cl***es are now doing
<blinkn> >#
<AMAG> Or just reduce some of the mage spell cast times in general
<KhaoZ> i say, giving us more mana just means we'll have more wasted mana when we're 2 shotted
<AMAG> I mean, seriously, frostbolt doesn't do a ton of damage and the cast time is horrific
<KhaoZ> exactly
<cyberfrg> more mana == less downtime + more damage in an extreamly long period of time
<Spax> AMAG: no just 1.7k crits.. thats nothing..
<KhaoZ> cyber, how often to mages live that long?
<KhaoZ> never
<djben> reduce mage cast time
<KhaoZ> in pvp, the first person everyone kills is the mage
<djben> would solve problems
<djben> except fire resists
<KhaoZ> it's the easiest honor points
<AMAG> Spax, we can't have 12% crit rate like rogues
<cyberfrg> KhaoZ: in your pvp world not long, in the rest of the world .. plenty long
<KhaoZ> so everyone guns for the mage
<dedekind> my priest is getting 1.3k crits...
<cyberfrg> not everything revolves around pvp
<KhaoZ> cyber, tons of people have been posting this for ever
<cyberfrg> heh
<KhaoZ> look at the forums
<cyberfrg> i don't read the forums
<TeamR> lol
<cyberfrg> to avoid trash like that
<KhaoZ> there's posts every day about how broken mages are
<TeamR> your crazy khaoz
<AMAG> Mage gear is garbage if you ask me
<TeamR> first target = priest
<djben> yep
<KhaoZ> well if you're ignorant, then don't talk about it.
<djben> arcanist is trash
<cyberfrg> sigh
<TeamR> forever and foralways
<Amante> Every cl*** has a bunch of totally useless talents!
<AMAG> Our armor ****s, and that's okay because it's cloth
<AMAG> But because it's cloth we should get more stat points out of it
<dedekind> valor is garbage
<Amante> You gotta wonder what Blizzard was thinking on gems like, "Throwing Weapon Specialization"
<cyberfrg> KhaoZ: i'm not ignorant .. i love my cl*** .. i just don't read whinings of other bored 60's
<djben> no amag
<djben> we get less
<Spax> Valor ****1
<AMAG> I should be picking up +spell crit armor at like level 12
<Amante> When did that EVER seem like a good idea?
<KhaoZ> in a perfect world, the priest would be the first target, but since most priests sit in shadow form and never heal, people could care less about them
<AMAG> I mean, because it's cloth we *should* get more stat points
<djben> amag
<djben> just give up
<djben> roll a rogue
<Spax> Yeah, and make you even more broken..
<djben> what do you think most people do who arent stupid?
<djben> i should haev left my maeg a long time ago
<KhaoZ> that's everyone's answer to the broken mage
<djben> but i am leveling an undead rogue now, he's 40 atm
<KhaoZ> roll another cl***
<KhaoZ> heh
<AMAG> djben I hope a hurricane destroys your house
<djben> it will take 2 weeks
<KhaoZ> i know so many people who have done just that too
<_dionysus> Okay, next to mage, what else is broke ?
<djben> for me to get like half nightslayer
<Amante> Ha
<Amante> Do you think rogue is any better? :P
<djben> KhaoZ - its the only logical answer.
<djben> **** yes
<Amante> If mage is gimped, then by those standards, rogue is about three times as gimped :P
<djben> **** yes rogues are better.
<djben> bull****
<djben> oh its amante i remember you
<KhaoZ> lol amante, right...
<djben> im done talking to you.
<djben> already
<Amante> Oh snap
<KhaoZ> don't make jokes now
<Amante> I remember you too
<Spax> rogues > god
<Amante> Mr. "OMG MAGE ISN'T DESCRIBED PROPERLY IN THE MANUAL"
<Amante> Hard to take anything you say seriously when you can obsess over pointless **** like that :P
<h8> ive never even seen the manual
<KhaoZ> guess he meant it when he said he was done with you, lol
<h8> friend of mine got me my cdkey
<fooey|wrk> heh, the manual was outdated the day it was printed
<h8> never got the cds either
<h8> heh
<Amante> fooey: Before then, even ;)
<asm[wrk]> Hi
<KhaoZ> you know what would be the easy fix to mages?
<h8> i still use my beta client ^_^
<Amante> KhaoZ: Don't worry, despite the fact you're far from broken, you'll be getting invis sometime in the next year :P
<Amante> Of course mages will still probably complain even then :P
<KhaoZ> give us that extra mana they're talking about, but make our mana shield last 5 minutes, and make it last longer
<KhaoZ> shielding 500 damage means **** to me
<KhaoZ> make it like diablo 2 mana shield
<Amante> Okay, so mana shield ****s :P
<RainFall> every mage expects to own 1v1
<KhaoZ> lasts till i turn it off
<Amante> You have blink and frost nova :P
<AMAG> invis won't help us that much
<RainFall> when a mage COMPLETELY owns in huge raid situation like AV
<RainFall> so
<KhaoZ> amante, i could care less what you're saying, you're obviously an idiot.
<TeamR> oh snap
<RainFall> mages if you want a 1v1 buff then you'll get an AOE nerf
<Amante> You're right
<KhaoZ> fine with me rainfall
<cyberfrg> leave mages alone
<AMAG> mages AOE abilities are *not* overpowered
<RainFall> but some cl***es have to be AOE
<TeamR> amante: dont forget poly!
<RainFall> so you picked the wrong cl***
<AMAG> You can do a ton of damage with AOE but the power cost is huge
<fooey|wrk> if you want a 1v1 mage, roll a warlock ;p
<RainFall> mage AOE is way overpowered relative to other cl***es
<Amante> There's only two words for someone who doesn't believe mages are gimped and need all kinds of help: not delusional. :P
<RainFall> if you disagree you dont play AV
<AMAG> blizzard 4 (?) costs 750 mana
<AMAG> That's like 1/5th my mana pool at level 43
<Amante> I mean, I mean, idiot!
<Spax> Oh blizz, you forgot to give mages the 1k yard aoe ko skill..
<KhaoZ> i want a mage that doesn't die in 2 seconds, hints why mana shield being a little better would fix it all
<RainFall> When there are mages with like 500 killing blows and 17 deaths in AV
<RainFall> tell me they're not overpowered lol
<AMAG> Spax hey we had that for 2 weeks when Arcane Missiles was broke :)
<Spax> YOu cant make mages even more overpowered then they allready are
<Amante> Yes. Top three most powerful cl***es? Hell no! Gimped! What could I be thinking to say they're well off? :P
<RainFall> hunters too.. like 150-20
<Amante> RainFall: Haha seriously
<TeamR> kaoz: u must be one ****ty mage
<Spax> AMAG: Awesome XD
<AMAG> arcane missiles had unlimited range and no LOS blocking :)
<Amante> I mean every cl*** has their issues, and if you wanna argue that, fine, but if you think mages are so horribly broken and need major help, you're living in a fantasy world
<KhaoZ> teamr i'd smoke you
<KhaoZ> every mage makes these statements
<KhaoZ> so stfu
<Amante> KhaoZ: You'd smoke him or you're gimped, which is it? :P
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